NFL investigating Patriots' footballs

[lucke]

So if it doesn't provide much of an advantage, why bother doing it? Why risk it?

i'm guessing it's because Belli-cheat feels like he can do whatever he wants (god complex).

if they're found guilty of this, and as a repeat cheater (regardless of it it gained them any advantage), he should be suspended for the next year, double his fine from his "spy-gate" penalty, and lose top 3 draft picks.

 

[tomdalton22]

If the opponent did this to the Lions a bunch of the Lions posters would be saying the refs themselves did it to ensure NE got to the SB!

 

[biggunsbob]

Fine them and move on... I am already tired of it..

 

[tigermud]

Yeah yeah bleh meh blah blah I know you all hate this source but I don't care, this is true

For one thing, NFL rules are so messy nowadays that referees can make bad calls with plausible deniability.

“It’s all about money; that’s what the leagues put the games on for,” gambling expert Brian Tuohy said. “They put them on just for their own profit and for the television networks and statistically it’s shown the networks are surviving because of the NFL and of course the advertisers are profiting off of these leagues as well.”

“There’s a lot of entities involved in this and I cannot believe a business like the NFL would leave itself up for pure chance.”

He also pointed out it’s not illegal for a league to fix its own games.

“There’s no law that prevents this,” he said. “Your ticket promises you entry to see a game… it doesn’t mean certain rules have to be followed, it doesn’t mean certain players have to play, it doesn’t mean a team cannot cheat.”

The Patriots could have beaten the Colts without deflated footballs, but they may not have covered the gambling spread.

http://www.infowars.com/deflategate-nfl-refs-allegedly-never-noticed-deflated-footballs/

 

[tomdalton22]

Yeah yeah bleh meh blah blah I know you all hate this source but I don't care, this is true

For one thing, NFL rules are so messy nowadays that referees can make bad calls with plausible deniability.

?It?s all about money; that?s what the leagues put the games on for,? gambling expert Brian Tuohy said. ?They put them on just for their own profit and for the television networks and statistically it?s shown the networks are surviving because of the NFL and of course the advertisers are profiting off of these leagues as well.?

?There?s a lot of entities involved in this and I cannot believe a business like the NFL would leave itself up for pure chance.?

He also pointed out it?s not illegal for a league to fix its own games.

?There?s no law that prevents this,? he said. ?Your ticket promises you entry to see a game? it doesn?t mean certain rules have to be followed, it doesn?t mean certain players have to play, it doesn?t mean a team cannot cheat.?

The Patriots could have beaten the Colts without deflated footballs, but they may not have covered the gambling spread.

http://www.infowars.com/deflategate-nfl-refs-allegedly-never-noticed-deflated-footballs/

So you are trying to convince us that 4 p.s.i. in a football is worth 31 points? Holy shit...tell the Lions to start letting some air out of the ball when Stafford is on the road vs. a team over .500

 

[tigermud]

So you are trying to convince us that 4 p.s.i. in a football is worth 31 points? Holy shit...tell the Lions to start letting some air out of the ball when Stafford is on the road vs. a team over .500

It prolly wouldn't help stafford much

 

[mhughes0021]

This is ridiculous imo. They are talking about 10-15% pounds of pressure??? that's nothing. This is how many days later with a ball going from being in 10 degree weather to wherever office they are sitting in now? How the hell can you say for sure that 10% cant get let out just due to the temp change, use in a football game, and days and days of sitting around?

ANNNND if you can prove all that wouldn't effect a measily 10% of pressure.....id still say who the fuck cares? its a ball....they dominated the colts. They could have used a basketball and still would have beat the colts.

 

[tigermud]

Awe fur fk sakes alright yes just fine em already and let's move onto the super bowl and see how they rig that one and for who. Should be fun!

 

[Mitchrapp]

This is ridiculous imo. They are talking about 10-15% pounds of pressure??? that's nothing. This is how many days later with a ball going from being in 10 degree weather to wherever office they are sitting in now? How the hell can you say for sure that 10% cant get let out just due to the temp change, use in a football game, and days and days of sitting around?

ANNNND if you can prove all that wouldn't effect a measily 10% of pressure.....id still say who the fuck cares? its a ball....they dominated the colts. They could have used a basketball and still would have beat the colts.

I think it's more about the fact its wrong in the rule book. And that they cheated before. No one believes it helped them win the game..

 

[tinselwolverine]

So Brady Quinn was being interviewed by Petros Papadekis and Matt Smith, and he said the way the Pats stored the footballs in the elements as opposed to the way the Colts stored them in the elements may have had a reason for the difference in the inflation of the footballs.

 

[manchild98]

This is ridiculous imo. They are talking about 10-15% pounds of pressure??? that's nothing. This is how many days later with a ball going from being in 10 degree weather to wherever office they are sitting in now? How the hell can you say for sure that 10% cant get let out just due to the temp change, use in a football game, and days and days of sitting around?

ANNNND if you can prove all that wouldn't effect a measily 10% of pressure.....id still say who the fuck cares? its a ball....they dominated the colts. They could have used a basketball and still would have beat the colts.

It was 51 degrees at the start of the game...and they supposedly tested some at halftime.

 

[mhughes0021]

It was 51 degrees at the start of the game...and they supposedly tested some at halftime.

And corrected it at halftime.

This is the dumbest story ever.

 

[kalinecountry]

It's all over the news and sports here since it happened.
Even the weatherman on one Boston channel said that with physics it would have had to have been 15 degrees below zero for the football to have dropped to the low psi levels the footballs were.

Most of the people I've spoken to about it are in denial, of course. It wasn't any person affiliated with the patriots.

Once again, I will probably be the only person in Massholechusetts rooting for the Seahawks.

 

[tomdalton22]

This is ridiculous imo. They are talking about 10-15% pounds of pressure??? that's nothing. This is how many days later with a ball going from being in 10 degree weather to wherever office they are sitting in now? How the hell can you say for sure that 10% cant get let out just due to the temp change, use in a football game, and days and days of sitting around?

so there was some kind of weird weather pattern that made 11 of the 12 Patriot balls deflate but none of the Colt balls on the other sideline?

 

[elrod817]

It's all over the news and sports here since it happened.
Even the weatherman on one Boston channel said that with physics it would have had to have been 15 degrees below zero for the football to have dropped to the low psi levels the footballs were.

Most of the people I've spoken to about it are in denial, of course. It wasn't any person affiliated with the patriots.

Once again, I will probably be the only person in Massholechusetts rooting for the Seahawks.

I don't know why KC, but your last sentence had me cracking up. Hope you have "bragging rights" come February 2nd!

 

[jared]

And corrected it at halftime.

This is the dumbest story ever.

This.

Are we sure the Colts didn't do it?

Because they sure got trounced after the officials corrected it.

 

[tigermud]

ESPN is also reporting that the Colts raised concerns to the NFL after their 42-20 loss in November to the Patriots about under-inflated footballs. There were reportedly concerns about the footballs after Colts safety Mike Adams gave the team’s equipment manager balls to save following his two-interception game against Patriots quarterback Tom Brady.


A source told ESPN that the league is “disappointed … angry … distraught” over the recent findings.


http://connecticut.cbslocal.com/2015/01/21/patriots-footballs-under-inflated/

 

[lucke]

And corrected it at halftime.

This is the dumbest story ever.

it's a story because they've been caught cheating before. it's against NFL rules, and they tried to cheat said rules to gain a competitive advantage. it's not a dumb story, it's a story about a cheating coach/franchise who the NFL never seems to punish accordingly.

 

[sggatecl]

it's a story because they've been caught cheating before. it's against NFL rules, and they tried to cheat said rules to gain a competitive advantage. it's not a dumb story, it's a story about a cheating coach/franchise who the NFL never seems to punish accordingly.

I think it's very premature to throw it on BB. This could very well be solely on Tom Brady and his immediate support staff. Nobody wants to think that but it makes a hell of a lot more sense.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I think it's very premature to throw it on BB. This could very well be solely on Tom Brady and his immediate support staff. Nobody wants to think that but it makes a hell of a lot more sense.

I'm not sure Brady would do something without BB knowing..coaches always know.