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[tonyballs]

https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/788373380554715136

For those that don't want to watch the video:

Shrager loves himself some Matt Stafford. Maybe more than me.....omg.

 

[tonyballs]

Defenses fault we only scored 15 points....duh.

17 penalties and something like 8 drops.....duh. Stafford threw 2 TDS called back. Blam!

 

[tonyballs]

Lets analyze your bullshit shall we?

14 game stretch.

Have you ever heard an MVP of the league that went .500?

Dude is 7 -7 over those 14 games. Its the defenses fault you say?

2015
Arizona L 17 points scored. yippie.
Min L 19 points scored. Yippie
Chiefs L 10 points scored. Yippie.
Packers we won by scoring only 18. Yippie.
Raiders L. Scored 18. Yippie.
Im giving you the benefit of the doubt because for some reason you chose to only pick the last 14 games.....the 2 games before that were losses as well and we got smoked in both. Offense didnt do shit vs the seahawks.

2016
Titans L Offense scored 15. Yippie.
Bears L Offense scored 14. Yippie.

Defenses fault my ass. MVP my ass. Have you ever seen an MVP go .500 in his last 14 games? Anyone?

Arizona dropped 42
Minnesota dropped 28
Chiefs dropped 45 .......lmfao

We actually beat the Raiders 13-18 lol

But you're right, retard. Defense was stellar. Fuck, you're stupid

 

[tonyballs]

Detroit D averaged 25 points against. Those are SB numbers, boys!!! ....lmfao.

 

[sggatecl]

Shrager loves himself some Matt Stafford. Maybe more than me.....omg.

Stafford getting love all over the national media.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page/32for32x161019/nfl-2016-grading-quarterbacks-all-32-teams

Grade: A-minus


Detroit Lions

The Lions have to be happy with what they've gotten out of Matthew Stafford this season. He's basically continued on the same trajectory he enjoyed at the end of 2015, when he put up numbers that were favorable compared to many of the league's star signal-callers. He has continued that trend over the first six weeks of this season. He's second in the league in completion percentage (68.9) and is on pace to have career highs in passer rating (106.0) and QBR (71.0). Of his four interceptions, at least two could be blamed on the pass-catcher. He hasn't been perfect -- he had a late interception against Tennessee that sealed the game for the Titans, plus the Chicago debacle along with the rest of Detroit's offense -- but he has been stellar overall. -- Michael Rothstein

For those that don't want to click the evil ESPN link:

A+s were given to : Falcons, Viking, and Patriots
A's were given to: Cowboys
A-s were given to: Lions, Saints, Raiders, and Chargers

 

[boogerlovejoy]

He is a top 5 cap hit. Salary isn't really that important. Some get more base salary, some got a larger signing bonus.

I'm not saying the money hasn't' been worth it this year, but saying 20th highest isn't really accurate in my mind, it's only part of the picture. He's routinely been one of the highest cap hits year over year.

He has, but it has almost nothing to do with him or the Lions, really.

The old CBA was going to make us pay ridiculous money to ANYONE we drafted #1 overall in 2009 right? If you want to blame anyone for those first 3-4 years cap hit blame the old CBA or Millen for being so shitty at his job we had the #1 overall pick.

After 2012, we had a 24 year old 4th year QB who had already had one of the 10 best seasons in NFL history and had led an 0-16 team to the playoffs in 3 years. At that point, he SHOULD have been extended. Letting him go would have been completely asinine.

Has he been "overpaid" most of the last 4 seasons......yes......but it is not hampering the Lions from being contenders. Bad draft decisions, bad cap management, injuries and poor coaching all come before #9 as to why this franchise is so damn inconsistent.

 

[kalinecountry]

Stafford is going into he's 100th game, how about a breakdown on how he stacks up to other QBs in their first 100 games.

Stafford will play in his 100th game on Sunday, but is already tops among all NFL quarterbacks in passing yards through their first 100 games with 27,624. Dan Marino (27,064) and Kurt Warner (26,097) rank second and third.

Stafford also ranks first in completions (2,392), ahead of Matt Ryan (2,242) and Peyton Manning (2,216).

In terms of touchdowns, Stafford is fifth all-time over a quarterback?s first 100 games. Marino is first with 217, followed by Aaron Rodgers (203), Brett Favre (187), and Manning (178). Stafford has 177, so he has a chance to pass Manning this weekend vs. Washington in his 100th game.

How about 300-yard passing games? Stafford is fourth with 32. Warner (44), Marino (35) and Rodgers (34) are ahead of him.

Stafford does hold the record for 350-yard games, however. He has 18. Marino had 17 and Warner 16.

 

[LKP]

Stafford is such a good player. Thanks for the comparisons kaline

 

[kdp1980]

Stafford is such a good player. Thanks for the comparisons kaline

I've been sold on him since JBC took over. Off and on with him before that. He is way more consistent now, and just seems to have a better overall feel for the game. I just wish we could've found him some help(coach wise) earlier in his career. Who knows what success's he'd already have by now.

 

[brewer229]

Most of these are simply because of the sheer volume of attempts. I can not confirm, but willing to bet anything, that he has far more attempts than anyone else through the 1st 100 games.

If you look towards TD/INT ratio, YPA, Passer rating and wins he would be towards the bottom of the list.

But under JBC scheme with the reduced number of long/tough throws, better blocking schemes (under pressure far less), and becoming a better game manger, he has taken off under his oversight.

So would Stafford be the leader in all these categories if he was under JBC for majority of his career? Probably not, but I'm guessing he would of been a much more efficient and better QB over the first 6.5 years, and we would of had more wins.

I'm sure almost everyone would trade in his first 100 games for almost any other QBs performance through their first 100 despite Stafford leading in all these volume stats.

 

[LKP]

Tds are not volume stats

 

[LKP]

Most of these are simply because of the sheer volume of attempts. I can not confirm, but willing to bet anything, that he has far more attempts than anyone else through the 1st 100 games.

If you look towards TD/INT ratio, YPA, Passer rating and wins he would be towards the bottom of the list.

But under JBC scheme with the reduced number of long/tough throws, better blocking schemes (under pressure far less), and becoming a better game manger, he has taken off under his oversight.

So would Stafford be the leader in all these categories if he was under JBC for majority of his career? Probably not, but I'm guessing he would of been a much more efficient and better QB over the first 6.5 years, and we would of had more wins.

I'm sure almost everyone would trade in his first 100 games for almost any other QBs performance through their first 100 despite Stafford leading in all these volume stats.

Manning 112 ints through 100 games

Stafford 102

Stafford has a better td int ratio than manning

Well unless he throws 11 picks on sunday

Brees 151 and 92 ints. Stafford better td int ratio than brees through 100 too

Brewer. You are dead wrong. Your stafford hate is beyond stupid

 

[tonyballs]

Stafford is going into he's 100th game, how about a breakdown on how he stacks up to other QBs in their first 100 games.

Stafford will play in his 100th game on Sunday, but is already tops among all NFL quarterbacks in passing yards through their first 100 games with 27,624. Dan Marino (27,064) and Kurt Warner (26,097) rank second and third.

Stafford also ranks first in completions (2,392), ahead of Matt Ryan (2,242) and Peyton Manning (2,216).

In terms of touchdowns, Stafford is fifth all-time over a quarterback?s first 100 games. Marino is first with 217, followed by Aaron Rodgers (203), Brett Favre (187), and Manning (178). Stafford has 177, so he has a chance to pass Manning this weekend vs. Washington in his 100th game.

How about 300-yard passing games? Stafford is fourth with 32. Warner (44), Marino (35) and Rodgers (34) are ahead of him.

Stafford does hold the record for 350-yard games, however. He has 18. Marino had 17 and Warner 16.

Sounds like the problem right there eh!!! Lol. What a terrible QB

 

[tonyballs]

Most of these are simply because of the sheer volume of attempts. I can not confirm, but willing to bet anything, that he has far more attempts than anyone else through the 1st 100 games.

If you look towards TD/INT ratio, YPA, Passer rating and wins he would be towards the bottom of the list.

But under JBC scheme with the reduced number of long/tough throws, better blocking schemes (under pressure far less), and becoming a better game manger, he has taken off under his oversight.

So would Stafford be the leader in all these categories if he was under JBC for majority of his career? Probably not, but I'm guessing he would of been a much more efficient and better QB over the first 6.5 years, and we would of had more wins.

I'm sure almost everyone would trade in his first 100 games for almost any other QBs performance through their first 100 despite Stafford leading in all these volume stats.

Looks like you got it all figured out!! Jesus Christ, you can't even compliment the kid without kicking him in the nuts lol.
And if you think he's a fucking "gam manager" under JBC's offense, then you need your fucking head examined.

 

[tonyballs]

Manning 112 ints through 100 games

Stafford 102

Stafford has a better td int ratio than manning

Well unless he throws 11 picks on sunday

Brees 151 and 92 ints. Stafford better td int ratio than brees through 100 too

Brewer. You are dead wrong. Your stafford hate is beyond stupid

Not stupid. Amusing is a better word lol

 

[dubbsco]

Let's pump the brakes here. I was more than willing to admit he's turned a corner and finally looks a great NFL qb. But he needs to do this on a consistent basis for more than 14 bleepin games. If he pumps out high quality production for 3, 4 seasons in a row and actually helps this team win in the playoffs, heck yeah I'll be in line to buy a jersey.

But the love he is getting for the small amount of great production he's put forth recently is way over the top. If people read this thread and just saw the slap stuff, it would read like he's an all time historic top 5.

 

[LKP]

100 games with td to int ratio better than young manning or brees is not a small amount of productiom

 

[tonyballs]

Let's pump the brakes here. I was more than willing to admit he's turned a corner and finally looks a great NFL qb. But he needs to do this on a consistent basis for more than 14 bleepin games. If he pumps out high quality production for 3, 4 seasons in a row and actually helps this team win in the playoffs, heck yeah I'll be in line to buy a jersey.

But the love he is getting for the small amount of great production he's put forth recently is way over the top. If people read this thread and just saw the slap stuff, it would read like he's an all time historic top 5.

Small amount of great production??? Lol.

 

[tonyballs]

Let's pump the brakes here. I was more than willing to admit he's turned a corner and finally looks a great NFL qb. But he needs to do this on a consistent basis for more than 14 bleepin games. If he pumps out high quality production for 3, 4 seasons in a row and actually helps this team win in the playoffs, heck yeah I'll be in line to buy a jersey.

But the love he is getting for the small amount of great production he's put forth recently is way over the top. If people read this thread and just saw the slap stuff, it would read like he's an all time historic top 5.

Live in the now!!! The rest of the world is. Why aren't you? Stafford is the talk of the town and you want to pump the brakes lol. Why?!?!

 

[brewer229]

Looks like you got it all figured out!! Jesus Christ, you can't even compliment the kid without kicking him in the nuts lol.
And if you think he's a fucking "gam manager" under JBC's offense, then you need your fucking head examined.

It's a compliment. He understands the game. He's managing it well. He's making the right decisions. Chosing and making the right throws. Reducing risk and getting the balls to the play makers.

How is that an insult. If you don't think he's managing the game well right now you need your head checked.

The try and win on arm strength and balls method never worked.