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No Deal For Cliff

It's all good buddy. Now this is just my well publicized opinion but I feel very strongly that our defensive system is very very friendly to pass rushers. The scheme itself is designed specifically for the DE to rush the QB every single play. This is documented. Go back and read my first post in this thread because I make this very same argument with lots of quoted sources to back it up.

On the other hand I feel these arguments about about Stafford are just unfounded. We don't run any specific system or scheme that's inherently beneficial to him or his numbers. The reason for the 660+ attempts and the inflated passing numbers this past year is because we had a shit running game and we were behind in couple games and in some shoot outs in others where we really had to air it out. Do I feel CJ adds to Staffords numbers? Of course I do. Who's numbers wouldn't he add to though, the guy is a fucking monster! Does that take away from the fact that Stafford had one of the best statistical seasons of all time and looks to be one of the most promising QB's in the leage? Hellmuthafuckinno!!!!!
 
It's all good buddy. Now this is just my well publicized opinion but I feel very strongly that our defensive system is very very friendly to pass rushers. The scheme itself is designed specifically for the DE to rush the QB every single play. This is documented. Go back and read my first post in this thread because I make this very same argument with lots of quoted sources to back it up.

On the other hand I feel these arguments about about Stafford are just unfounded. We don't run any specific system or scheme that's inherently beneficial to him or his numbers. The reason for the 660+ attempts and the inflated passing numbers this past year is because we had a shit running game and we were behind in couple games and in some shoot outs in others where we really had to air it out. Do I feel CJ adds to Staffords numbers? Of course I do. Who's numbers wouldn't he add to though, the guy is a fucking monster! Does that take away from the fact that Stafford had one of the best statistical seasons of all time and looks to be one of the most promising QB's in the leage? Hellmuthafuckinno!!!!!

We only have a couple cheeseheads who post here (as opposed to ESPN packer, bear, viking, ?rams? trolls) but I can already here them gearing up as to why Stafford's numbers are grossly inflated. They would say that ARod would have put up 6,000yds 51td 1int in this offense and I am not confident about the 1. This is similar to the argument against Cliff, ifs and buts IMO the guy put up the numbers and have to respect it regardless of the situation. Plugging in someone else is no guarantee and not even likely.
 
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A 1st rd pick in 2013 at de will be 10 mil cheaper and do just as good of a job as avril. I applaud mm for not blowing his wad just cause avril had one decent year in a year where he had a 100 foot split, faced no doubles the entire season and still didnt produce enough to be an elite de.
 
If he does leave as a FA we should get a 3rd rd comp pick for him. I would rather keep him but its better than nothing.
 
If he does leave as a FA we should get a 3rd rd comp pick for him. I would rather keep him but its better than nothing.

not sure how tenders work with guys comming off a franchise year but id be happy if we could tender him at a 2nd rd pick.
 
No you cant tender him but if he leaves we should get a compensatory pick for losing him and it may be as high as a 3rd.

I wish someone would have tried to sign him this year and we would have gotten 2 1's for him but I knew that wouldnt happen. Last year we had him tendered for a 1st and 3rd.
 
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