North Carolina voter ID laws overturned on appeal

[Sbee]

thanks for the definition, I was wondering what you meant by that. now I guess it will be back-to-back sleepless nights - rats!

Since when is voting for someone you find completely unworthy of office something that "one ought to do?" I suppose you thought this was your big "gotcha" post but I have to say, this one is just dumb as the one where you tried to use the definition of "baby" to justify butchering an unborn human.

Do you feel the same way about all the down ticket races and referendums? I mean, all politics are local, right? So those races should be even more important than national races. Do you just vote straight D or do you inform yourself about every candidate and ballot referendum and vote, regardless of whether you like either outcome? Because apparently, that's what you ought to do.

Voted for Snyder twice, I'll vote for our Republican state rep, Mike Mcready, don't have a problem with either of them. The social issues that I consider the Republicans to be off base on aren't decided at the state level, at least not in Michigan.

Funny that you're so forceful in your language about the "butchering of babies" but in this election, you have one candidate saying he'll appoint pro life justices to the supreme court and another that's for safe and legal abortion, but you're still on the sidelines? You won't cast your vote to potentially help with the "slaughter" you're always going on and on about? You're really a man of principle.

 

[deathroh]

I did vote in the primary and did not vote for Trump.

Well I guess you're in the clear, it's the ~80% of other republicans we can blame for this bullshit

 

[byco42]

S-mack, you have to vote. That is an order. I am an Official Voter Official and I have the authority to compel you to cast your ballot.

 

[Michchamp]

Trump received 44.9% of the Republican primary popular vote, and according to the Washington Post received more primary votes than any Republican in history, but voter turnout was especially high in the primaries this year for both parties. and they also reported he received the lowest percentage of the total for any winner ever. at least a majority of Republicans did not vote for him.

Whether that 44.9% represents only 15% or less of Republican voters I do not know.

I do know that If you didn't support Trump and stayed home instead of taking a half hour to go vote, you fucked up, just like your party fucked up. sometimes I wonder if the people running the RNC are capable of tying their own shoes.

 

[tinselwolverine]

I do know that If you didn't support Trump and stayed home instead of taking a half hour to go vote, you fucked up, just like your party fucked up. sometimes I wonder if the people running the RNC are capable of tying their own shoes.

Trump had already clinched the nomination in the committed delegate Count by the time it came to the California primary. There were a few other candidates still on the Ballot but they had already suspended their campaigns. I'm pretty sure Trump got pretty much all of the vote in the Republican California primary.

 

[Spartanmack]

Voted for Snyder twice, I'll vote for our Republican state rep, Mike Mcready, don't have a problem with either of them. The social issues that I consider the Republicans to be off base on aren't decided at the state level, at least not in Michigan.

Funny that you're so forceful in your language about the "butchering of babies" but in this election, you have one candidate saying he'll appoint pro life justices to the supreme court and another that's for safe and legal abortion, but you're still on the sidelines? You won't cast your vote to potentially help with the "slaughter" you're always going on and on about? You're really a man of principle.

I'm not a single issue voter and I don't believe Trump will follow through on any of his campaign promises, particular those around the abortion issue considering statements he's made in the past on the matter. I'm no Bart Stupak. Nice try though.

Oh, and here's a couple videos produced by a former abortionist, check it out and tell me "butchering" is too forceful...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESqdmQFTNhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Af8vIym2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRDnVSMr5j0

 

[byco42]

I'm not a single issue voter and I don't believe Trump will follow through on any of his campaign promises, particular those around the abortion issue considering statements he's made in the past on the matter. I'm no Bart Stupak. Nice try though.

Preserving life is not an issue work supporting at the ballot box?

 

[Spartanmack]

S-mack, you have to vote. That is an order. I am an Official Voter Official and I have the authority to compel you to cast your ballot.

PM me the correct spelling of your full name for my write-in then - I'll be there voting for congress, state and local candidates and against casino expansion in the Garden State, so I'll be happy to press the button for you.

I haven't actually followed regional polling numbers - is New Jersey even in play? Since I'm not voting for either one, I just assumed the Garden State was going to Dem, as always.

 

[byco42]

PM me the correct spelling of your full name for my write-in then - I'll be there voting for congress, state and local candidates and against casino expansion in the Garden State, so I'll be happy to press the button for you.

I haven't actually followed regional polling numbers - is New Jersey even in play? Since I'm not voting for either one, I just assumed the Garden State was going to Dem, as always.

Have you researched Evan McMullin?

 

[Spartanmack]

Preserving life is not an issue work supporting at the ballot box?

It absolutely is but I don't believe Trump is pro life or that he will follow through on his promises - he's earned my distrust. Plus I'm fundamentally opposed to him on most other issues. I also think, like Hillary, he's a despicable human being unworthy of the office. There both such horrible people, I don't think I would vote for either one even if we agreed on many issues.

 

[Sbee]

I'm not a single issue voter and I don't believe Trump will follow through on any of his campaign promises, particular those around the abortion issue considering statements he's made in the past on the matter. I'm no Bart Stupak. Nice try though.

Oh, and here's a couple videos produced by a former abortionist, check it out and tell me "butchering" is too forceful...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESqdmQFTNhE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Af8vIym2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRDnVSMr5j0

I see you glossed over the fact that I regularly vote for Republicans, I guess that doesn't match your narrative.

Watched all of your videos, funny how the doctor never uses the term fetus in any of them, preferring terms like dead baby and dead child for better shock value.

I also found it amusing that he lists all of the possible side effects, which also very similar to those of carrying a baby to term and childbirth. The undiagnosed ectopic pregnancy, which is life threatening if you have an abortion or not.

Either way, it's convenient for you to think that Trump would be pro choice as a way to duck out of voting for him. If you're so sure that abortion is murder, shouldn't you go with the guy that says he will appoint justices that feel the same way? even if it's only a 50% chance that he appoints those justices. again, you're coping out.

 

[Spartanmack]

Have you researched Evan McMullin?

I have not - I don't think his name even came up when I took the isidewith.com poll. Thanks.

 

[byco42]

Some guy catches Romney saying something disparaging about 47% of Americans: accurate and scandalous. Another guy captures numerous doctors describing at length how they are selling fetal organs of developing babies: taken out of context and underhanded.

 

[deathroh]

Trump received 44.9% of the Republican primary popular vote, and according to the Washington Post received more primary votes than any Republican in history, but voter turnout was especially high in the primaries this year for both parties. and they also reported he received the lowest percentage of the total for any winner ever. at least a majority of Republicans did not vote for him.

Whether that 44.9% represents only 15% or less of Republican voters I do not know.

I do know that If you didn't support Trump and stayed home instead of taking a half hour to go vote, you fucked up, just like your party fucked up. sometimes I wonder if the people running the RNC are capable of tying their own shoes.

I was admittedly just guessing on the number. It looks like just over 13 million people voted for trump. In 2012 there were 61 million to vote for Romney and overall turnout was at 54.87%. With a ton of assumptions such as only republicans voted for trump and Romney, and that the republican turnout matched the overall turnout, I think 10-15% is a fair estimate.

 

[Spartanmack]

I see you glossed over the fact that I regularly vote for Republicans, I guess that doesn't match your narrative.

Watched all of your videos, funny how the doctor never uses the term fetus in any of them, preferring terms like dead baby and dead child for better shock value.

I also found it amusing that he lists all of the possible side effects, which also very similar to those of carrying a baby to term and childbirth. The undiagnosed ectopic pregnancy, which is life threatening if you have an abortion or not.

Either way, it's convenient for you to think that Trump would be pro choice as a way to duck out of voting for him. If you're so sure that abortion is murder, shouldn't you go with the guy that says he will appoint justices that feel the same way? even if it's only a 50% chance that he appoints those justices. again, you're coping out.

what difference does it make that you regularly vote for Republicans? That's not the issue.

Is that funny - he doesn't say fetus? What's sad is that you watched the videos and for you the shock value comes from the words he uses and not the dismembered fetuses or that you think the part about the side effects is supposed to be the deterrent and not the dismembered fetuses. And you think conservatives are cold, uncaring and selfish. Amazing. You're either an idiot or a seriously callous individual.

It's not out of convenience, he was pro choice all the way up until he decided to seek the Republican nomination. Like I told Byco - Trump has earned my distrust.

 

[Sbee]

what difference does it make that you regularly vote for Republicans? That's not the issue.

Is that funny - he doesn't say fetus? What's sad is that you watched the videos and for you the shock value comes from the words he uses and not the dismembered fetuses or that you think the part about the side effects is supposed to be the deterrent and not the dismembered fetuses. And you think conservatives are cold, uncaring and selfish. Amazing. You're either an idiot or a seriously callous individual.

It's not out of convenience, he was pro choice all the way up until he decided to seek the Republican nomination. Like I told Byco - Trump has earned my distrust.

Trump obviously has a better chance of appointing pro life justices than Hillary Clinton or any of the 3rd party candidates. If it's murder in your mind, then you'd have to vote for the candidate that at least has a chance of stopping these "murders." He would obviously say or do anything for votes, I'm sure he would appoint pro life justices so he'd stand a better chance at reelection.

 

[Spartanmack]

Trump received 44.9% of the Republican primary popular vote, and according to the Washington Post received more primary votes than any Republican in history, but voter turnout was especially high in the primaries this year for both parties. and they also reported he received the lowest percentage of the total for any winner ever. at least a majority of Republicans did not vote for him.

Whether that 44.9% represents only 15% or less of Republican voters I do not know.

I do know that If you didn't support Trump and stayed home instead of taking a half hour to go vote, you fucked up, just like your party fucked up. sometimes I wonder if the people running the RNC are capable of tying their own shoes.

did they? Even with only a plurality of primary voters, Trump still won the nomination by a mile. So if those Republican voters who didn't vote and also didn't support Trump actually turned out and voted, a very large majority of them would have to vote for the same candidate to have stopped him. Highly unlikely considering the number of candidates splitting the non-Trump votes.

As for the cheapshot at the RNC leadership, I'm not defending them but let's not pretend like that's unique to one party. I mean, you do realize that your party was and still is led by equally incompetent yet infinitely more corrupt buffoons, right? I mean they colluded against that bat-shit crazy old coot you worship. And this conspiracy was controlled at the highest levels of the DNC, a party with literally decades of experience rigging elections and still they almost f'd it up and let an out-of-his-mind old man get the nomination.

 

[Spartanmack]

Trump obviously has a better chance of appointing pro life justices than Hillary Clinton or any of the 3rd party candidates. If it's murder in your mind, then you'd have to vote for the candidate that at least has a chance of stopping these "murders." He would obviously say or do anything for votes, I'm sure he would appoint pro life justices so he'd stand a better chance at reelection.

So what if he has a better chance of appointing a more conservative justice than Clinton? I'm not voting for her either or the third party candidates. Like I said, I'm not a single issue voter, I don't believe Trump is pro life or a conservative, I'm opposed to his position on tons of other issues, and I think he is a horrible human being. I get that you can't comprehend that and that you don't see the weakness in you argument. Again, I'm not going to compromise my principles because some wrongheaded liberal thinks supporting someone I object to on multiple levels is the brave thing to do.

 

[Sbee]

So what if he has a better chance of appointing a more conservative justice than Clinton? I'm not voting for her either or the third party candidates. Like I said, I'm not a single issue voter, I don't believe Trump is pro life or a conservative, I'm opposed to his position on tons of other issues, and I think he is a horrible human being. I get that you can't comprehend that and that you don't see the weakness in you argument. Again, I'm not going to compromise my principles because some wrongheaded liberal thinks supporting someone I object to on multiple levels is the brave thing to do.

You think it's murder, but you won't vote to potentially stop that "murder."
makes sense. I get that you're not a single issue voter but if it's that important to you that you're always going on and on about the slaughter of babies on these boards and you have a chance to vote for a pro life candidate, you say, no thanks. Way to stick to your principles.

 

[Spartanmack]

You think it's murder, but you won't vote to potentially stop that "murder."
makes sense. I get that you're not a single issue voter but if it's that important to you that you're always going on and on about the slaughter of babies on these boards and you have a chance to vote for a pro life candidate, you say, no thanks. Way to stick to your principles.

OK, I'm a coward for standing on my principles and I'm not really standing on my principles because I don't believe for a second that Trump is pro life, never mind the fact that I think he's a disgrace of a human being and I disagree with him on myriad other issues.

First, you tried so hard to peg me as a Trump supporter. Now you're trying to convince me that I should be a single issue voter and vote for someone who I don't trust on that issue. And because I refuse to go along with that backward logic, I'm not sticking to my principles. I gave you way too much credit - this is the kind of argument I'd expect to hear from bob.