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OT Joe Pa and Penn St

Yeah they would. You have knowledge and don't worry days later of what happened to the child? Who does that? And my first reaction to a friend would be "wtf".
 
Sandusky didn't just "suddenly" become a molester/pedo, he just got more and more blatantly so, probably by his mid-20s if not earlier, he began to become solicitous of young boys, and increasingly positioned himself quite successfully to have unfettered and unsupervised access to them. He was not interested at all in post-pubescent youngsters, so those that he coached in college were not his targets, but his position @ PSU reinforced and gave much more legitimacy towards his being trustworthy and respected.

Pedos tend to gravitate to careers in which they can gradually build up a strong reputation of being perceived as being respected, honorable, unquestionable, and authoritative mentors of young men/children in the community. Paterno, according to what I have read did not attend Sandusky's retirement party in 99, and Jerry claimed that Joe hadn't spoken to him since. Paterno knew damned well that Sandusky was a pederast. After a few months of nothing being done by the PSU brass about what McQueary witnessed, Joe should have threatened to resign, and at the very least, asked McQueary to accompany him talk to a member of the media and law enforcement about what he had witnessed.

If it were me, I would have grabbed my or any phone nearby and immediately called the university cops as well as the local law enforcement, after I tried to put a stop to what was happening, no matter whether or not that boy was a "willing" participant while being sodomized by Sandusky.

I have little doubt that young boys were being pimped out by Sandusky, those being the ones that were participants at his "second mile" program, since he became quite proficient at discovering who amongst them were the most vulnerable, exploitable, and gullible, and he most likely had unfettered access to their records and background. He and his wife adopted 6 children, Sandusky claimed that they were unable to produce any of their own..hmm...seems like their maritial relationship might have been somewhat less than what could be considered typical, and I wonder if any of their own adopted kids were being molested by him as well.
 
[color=#006400 said:
Mitch[/color]]The boy was not willing, don't even suggest that.

That is why I put it in quotes as sarcasm, the boy had apparently stopped resisting Sandusky, since McQueary did not mention that he heard the boy screaming and crying during the incident, just hearing "noises" of a sexual nature.
 
Turok said:
[color=#006400 said:
Mitch[/color]]The boy was not willing, don't even suggest that.

That is why I put it in quotes as sarcasm, the boy had apparently stopped resisting Sandusky, since McQueary did not mention that he heard the boy screaming and crying during the incident, just hearing "noises" of a sexual nature.

A little boy. They get intimadated by pervs like sandusky. But the boy was not willing in any way or at any time. Sick bastard Sandusky. I hope someone shoots him in the head.
 
Sandusky would now more than likely welcome being shot in the head and killed by one of his now adult victims, or some enraged adult who may or may not have any relationship with or to his victims, since he was quoted as saying that he should be dead to one of his victim's mothers.

Same with his probably inevitable imprisonment, whether Sandusky pleads guilty or not to his 40 counts, as his sentencing will likely be long enough to span the remainder of his life, whether or not he actually receives a life sentence by the judge for imprisonment. Hopefully he will experience far worse than what he meted out to his individually abused victims, repeatedly being beaten senseless for days, weeks and months by a prison-posse and gang-raped as well by fellow inmates, and after a year or two, he then gets "Dahmered".
 
Turok said:
Sandusky would now more than likely welcome being shot in the head and killed by one of his now adult victims, or some enraged adult who may or may not have any relationship with or to his victims, since he was quoted as saying that he should be dead to one of his victim's mothers.

Same with his probably inevitable imprisonment, whether Sandusky pleads guilty or not to his 40 counts, as his sentencing will likely be long enough to span the remainder of his life, whether or not he actually receives a life sentence by the judge for imprisonment. Hopefully he will experience far worse than what he meted out to his individually abused victims, repeatedly being beaten senseless for days, weeks and months by a prison-posse and gang-raped as well by fellow inmates, and after a year or two, he then gets "Dahmered".

He plead or will plead innocent. So he's not take ownership of his sick crimes. So hopefully someone will accidently shoot him in the head.
 
im still trying to figure out why this shit happened 10 years ago and NOOOOOW the parents are all pissed off. Where were they when their little boy was in the shower with a 60 yr old? Btw...i heard one of the little boys turned into lady gaga.....so dont go blaming joe and calling him rotten. If it wasnt for his university we wouldnt have beautiful gay music.
 
What?

First, I don't think the boys spoke up right away. Not back in '02 anyway. Similar to the sick priests, didn't know for awhile. Little kids get tramatized and sometimes have a very hard time speaking up.
 
I've been trying to put myself in Joe's shoes since this story came out, and ask myself what I honestly would have done if I were him.

This morning it dawned on me... How in the holy hell did McQuery not shatter Sandusky on the spot?!

We've all agreed he should have called the cops, but as I thought this morning about what I'd have done in his shoes, I realized there is no way I'd have just turned my back and walked away to begin with. I'd have broken it up right then and there and probably dropped the old fart like a bad habit.

What in the fuck was McQuery thinking to just walk away from something like that and leave the kid with Sandusky ... and then tell someone later?
 
inkfreq said:
I've been trying to put myself in Joe's shoes since this story came out, and ask myself what I honestly would have done if I were him.

This morning it dawned on me... How in the holy hell did McQuery not shatter Sandusky on the spot?!

We've all agreed he should have called the cops, but as I thought this morning about what I'd have done in his shoes, I realized there is no way I'd have just turned my back and walked away to begin with. I'd have broken it up right then and there and probably dropped the old fart like a bad habit.

What in the fuck was McQuery thinking to just walk away from something like that and leave the kid with Sandusky ... and then tell someone later?

It just dawned on you? McQuery is the worst of them all. Get the kid out of harms way but no this kid calls his father. Clusterfuck.
 
inkfreq said:
I've been trying to put myself in Joe's shoes since this story came out, and ask myself what I honestly would have done if I were him.

This morning it dawned on me... How in the holy hell did McQuery not shatter Sandusky on the spot?!

We've all agreed he should have called the cops, but as I thought this morning about what I'd have done in his shoes, I realized there is no way I'd have just turned my back and walked away to begin with. I'd have broken it up right then and there and probably dropped the old fart like a bad habit.

What in the fuck was McQuery thinking to just walk away from something like that and leave the kid with Sandusky ... and then tell someone later?
ofcourse mcquery is testifying that he broke it up. He also confirmed it in a bunch of emails espn got a hold of yesterday. All just damage control to make himself look like less of a pussy. If a sexual act was broken up he would have been in jail 10 years ago.
 
"upon Sandusky's arraignment, prosecutors requested $500,000 bail for Sandusky. They also wanted him to wear a leg monitor."

"However, Judge Leslie Dutchcot freed Sandusky on $100,000 unsecured bail, meaning he'll only have to pay if he doesn't show up for court."

"The judge's profile on her former law firm's website states that she volunteered at the Second Mile, the same organization where Sandusky allegedly found his victims."

"Some observers are questioning why Dutchcot, the judge, didn't recuse herself from Sandusky's case, given her connection to him through the Second Mile."

Penn State assistant coach: 'I did the right thing'

Uhh..yeah "some observers" WTF?? This judge had absolutely no business for being involved in Sanduskys arraignment, b/c of her connection to Sandusky's Second Mile organization and should have recused herself immediately, IMO.

One "observer's" comment, who is a criminal defense attorney:

"I have never had a client who was charged with those counts released on unsecured bail. The fact is that the charges carry such heavy penalties that monetary bail is always required as a way to prevent people from skipping out on the case. He is facing state charges that carry mandatory minimums of ten year sentences. If he is found guilty or pleads guilty to those counts the Judge has no discretion and must sentence him to a minimum of ten years incarceration."

Pa. Criminal Attorney On Sandusky Judge
 
elrod said:

Fucking pathetic...

The video was even more disturbing than anything. Too bad someone had to tell that goof to come back out when he rambles on about Penn State beating Nebraska. He comes out a second time (after being told no doubt) and tells people to "pray for the victims"? Are you fn kidding me with this guy? This fuck needs to be strung up right along side his fuckhead friend Sandusky and beaten with a baseball bat. The nerve of this clown. And people cheering him on like he's some sort of hero? Brings a chill to my spine and an anger in me that i don't want to bring out.
 
And now JoePa is said to be having "treatable" lung cancer. I don't wish ill will on the guy, but it seems rather convenient to release this information at this time when the heat is thick and there is an outcry of rage and anger against the man. Was this something that has been known about for awhile, and just now they decided to come forth? Or is this a bunch of BS to bring sympathy for the old man? It saddens me to think this way...but the timing is much too suspect with all that is going on, and the more information that is given to the public, the less he looks in the eyes of society.
 
fedexgooch78 said:
And now JoePa is said to be having "treatable" lung cancer. I don't wish ill will on the guy, but it seems rather convenient to release this information at this time when the heat is thick and there is an outcry of rage and anger against the man. Was this something that has been known about for awhile, and just now they decided to come forth? Or is this a bunch of BS to bring sympathy for the old man? It saddens me to think this way...but the timing is much too suspect with all that is going on, and the more information that is given to the public, the less he looks in the eyes of society.

I'm not much of conspiracy nut and I don't want to sound like I'm wearing a tin foil hat, but the timing of all of this just seems too perfect to just be a coincidence...from Joe Pa's win record to this recent report.
 
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