PFF Review Week 5

[LKP]

Or Matt holds on to the ball trying to find out where Calvin is..

It's clearly not JUST Matt holding onto the ball longer. Many aspects to the sacks.

 

[cheeno]

Or the WRs not getting open with more coverage towards them. Or the play calls with longer developing routes. Or poor blocking. Or all of these things combined into one big problem.

Sounds like this team sucks.

 

[LKP]

Sounds like this team sucks.

They can rebound. Talking three games really. One of which they won. Takes time to figure out the offense. And this team should include Calvin. It's absolute horseshit when we finally build around him with weapons, he gets hurt.

 

[dubbsco]

But that's why they gave him weapons... In case this happens...

And it did, and he looked like a JV quarterback when Calvin went down.

It's not horseshit. It's the NFL. Calvin's getting a bit older, and hasn't been the healthiest dude around.

 

[LKP]

But that's why they gave him weapons... In case this happens...

And it did, and he looked like a JV quarterback when Calvin went down.

It's not horseshit. It's the NFL. Calvin's getting a bit older, and hasn't been the healthiest dude around.

Stafford had a great QB rating against the Jets. Incredible game. Then pass pro broke down against Bills, 4 offensive line penalties, Winn stuffed, Bush was taken out of the game with an injury. Stafford even threw a big throw to Tate late in the game. Kicker messsed up a win. We should be 4-1 with Calvin hurt 2 games. This is a good team.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Average QB, number 1 pick, making too much money - very disappointing. I can't imagine anyone is happy with what we got in Matt Stafford.

 

[lgolfer]

Nobody was calling for a starter in this years draft at OLine though.

Hate to call you out on this one, but Hughes was saying RT was a spot that should be addressed. He suggested drafting Lewan. But I agree with your general point that it seemed like the O-line would be fine this year.

 

[dubbsco]

Same here, I would have been totally fine with Lewan, knowing that Mayhew would burn the pick on a tight end.

 

[atxlion82]

It's clearly not JUST Matt holding onto the ball longer. Many aspects to the sacks.

Ummm...acording to this Matt is holding on to the ball too long

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2014/10/detroit_lions_matthew_stafford_46.html

 

[LKP]

Ummm...acording to this Matt is holding on to the ball too long

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2014/10/detroit_lions_matthew_stafford_46.html

If you read the whole article they say it's blocking and depth of the routes too. The title is misleading.

 

[tomdalton22]

If you read the whole article they say it's blocking and depth of the routes too. The title is misleading.

"But at the end of the day, the offensive line is giving Stafford exactly the same amount of time before allowing a sack as last year -- 3.89 seconds. And yet Stafford has been sacked 17 times, a figure he didn't reach until Week 16 last year."

"I think everyone plays a part," receiver Jeremy Ross said. "Part of the passing game is the offensive line blocking, quarterback doing his reads right, make sure he's getting the ball out, receivers running routes fast with proper depth and timing. And we've all taken part in sacks.

"It's everybody. Everyone's played a part in it."


Coach Jim Caldwell said Stafford has been too slow on some of his reads, but also said some plays are slow-developing by design in coordinator Joe Lombardi's scheme.

"There may be a few more of play-action passes that require holding the ball a little bit longer, to make certain that we get the proper depth of the route for the timing," Caldwell said. "Some of those things are there and in place. But it's a variety of things, I think, so we're crossing the entire gamut in that regard.

"Some games we feel, depending on who we're playing, that we may limit some of that in some plays, and other games we feel like that's a great way to get a little cushion out away from the immediate rush and be able to buy a little bit more time. We evaluate it all."

 

[LKP]

"But at the end of the day, the offensive line is giving Stafford exactly the same amount of time before allowing a sack as last year -- 3.89 seconds. And yet Stafford has been sacked 17 times, a figure he didn't reach until Week 16 last year."

"I think everyone plays a part," receiver Jeremy Ross said. "Part of the passing game is the offensive line blocking, quarterback doing his reads right, make sure he's getting the ball out, receivers running routes fast with proper depth and timing. And we've all taken part in sacks.

"It's everybody. Everyone's played a part in it."


Coach Jim Caldwell said Stafford has been too slow on some of his reads, but also said some plays are slow-developing by design in coordinator Joe Lombardi's scheme.

"There may be a few more of play-action passes that require holding the ball a little bit longer, to make certain that we get the proper depth of the route for the timing," Caldwell said. "Some of those things are there and in place. But it's a variety of things, I think, so we're crossing the entire gamut in that regard.

"Some games we feel, depending on who we're playing, that we may limit some of that in some plays, and other games we feel like that's a great way to get a little cushion out away from the immediate rush and be able to buy a little bit more time. We evaluate it all."

Like it said. it's everyone. Oline, receivers, play calling and Stafford. It's not JUST Stafford alone.

 

[atxlion82]

Like it said. it's everyone. Oline, receivers, play calling and Stafford. It's not JUST Stafford alone.

Throw away the damn ball and move on to the next down

 

[tomdalton22]

Like it said. it's everyone. Oline, receivers, play calling and Stafford. It's not JUST Stafford alone.

I agree...and it is a problem. In the slow developing plays it appears they don't have a good enough line, in other plays it appears that Stafford isn't making quick enough reads and the coaching hasn't fixed it yet. I understand it is a new offense but maybe the Lions don't have the personnel to run it.

 

[LKP]

Throw away the damn ball and move on to the next down

He did last year quikcly. 12 of 19 picks his fault.

 

[LKP]

I agree...and it is a problem. In the slow developing plays it appears they don't have a good enough line, in other plays it appears that Stafford isn't making quick enough reads and the coaching hasn't fixed it yet. I understand it is a new offense but maybe the Lions don't have the personnel to run it.

Yep, I'll give them some time but not too much time to fix it. Vikings, Saints, Falcons do not have good defenses. If it's not fixed soon could be in trouble.

 

[atxlion82]

He did last year quikcly. 12 of 19 picks his fault.

Last year he did, this year he is not.

Thats a problem

 

[Mitchrapp]

Like it said. it's everyone. Oline, receivers, play calling and Stafford. It's not JUST Stafford alone.

I thought the team was holeless..we got guys that added depth, a new stud TE, no Durham as the number two..rookies in their 2nd year, more improved play at OLINE since its another year together..

All your BS amounts to jack shit..congratulations you're number 1 on "don't know shit about football" list.

 

[mhughes0021]

Protection problems. Oline struggled last year without Calvin actually too. 5 sacks each game at Green Bay and at Minnesota last year. Oline can't block without Calvin apparently.

which strengthens the fact that without calvin..Stafford doesn't know wtf hes doing and holds onto the ball to long.

 

[atxlion82]

So is Stafford having issues reading a defense when the play call isnt "calvin you run Ill throw the ball up"