PFFF ranks the Lions quarterbacks as No. 23 in the NFL

[Mitchrapp]

If Matt is top ten then my name is Skippy.

 

[brewer229]

I would put Stafford around the 9-10 range and Taylor around the low to mid 20's.

Damn at this rate he will be #1 by tomorrow. gained 4 spots in a few hours.

 

[kdp1980]

If Matt is top ten then my name is Skippy.

I never knew that, always figured it was Mitch

 

[Mitchrapp]

I never knew that, always figured it was Mitch

Actually it's Rob, well or Robert.

 

[LKP]

If Matt is top ten then my name is Skippy.

He was 9th in qb raing skippy. 7th in tds. 5th n completion percentage

 

[brewer229]

He had a wonderful second half. Not to many people are arguing that. If he can finally put something together for a full season than we can talk maybe top 10. First 7 years suggest he is very streaky and that won't happen. But it could be the year.

Seems like people are still rating him on his potential and what he is capable of as opposed to what he has done.

We could pull every year and see where he ranked in completition %, QB rating, TD to INT ratio. But somehow I think the slaps would suddenly find fault with that so...whatever.

 

[LKP]

2011. 6th in tds in 2013. I have plenty of ammo even without protection, run game or healthy weapons for stafford most years. The guy is elite

 

[kdp1980]

2011. 6th in tds in 2013. I have plenty of ammo even without protection, run game or healthy weapons for stafford most years. The guy is elite

Why do you try to make me hate Stafford?

 

[LKP]

Why do you try to make me hate Stafford?

You should agree with me. He is a stud.

 

[kdp1980]

You should agree with me. He is a stud.

I'm not going to get into that conversation.

 

[tomdalton22]

Top of my head I put him mid range.....I was wrong. I quickly looked at all the starting 32 QBs and completely changed my mind. I saw 8-9 QBs better than Staff with a few close calls. We should be lucky to have #9 on our team.

Guys that I think are clearly better than Stafford (no order)

Brady
Brees
Wilson
Newton
Rodgers
Ben
Rivers
Palmer
Luck

Guys that he is similar to

Cousins
Ryan
Alex Smith
Cutler
Tannehill
Carr
Flacco
Eli


IMO he could be as high as 10th but I see him somewhere in the middle of the guys he is similar to...in that 13-14 range.

 

[LKP]

He was 9th in qb rating without a run game or protection. Puts him top 5 in entire nfl

 

[everyoneneedsasmil]

He was 9th in qb rating without a run game or protection. Puts him top 5 in entire nfl

Stafford was only 14th in QBR despite having Calvin pulling all that defensive attention. Puts him in the bottom 10 in entire nfl.

Do you see how these are both arbitrary?

 

[tomdalton22]

He was 9th in qb rating without a run game or protection. Puts him top 5 in entire nfl

only in your delusional mind.

 

[LKP]

Qb rating is the only accurate

Qbr is dumb made up by ESPN

Calvin is a gimp. A verile Marvin jones can be better

 

[brewer229]

Name all the elite QBs in the last 20 years that have a losing record.

Yes it's a team game, but QB is the most important and has the most impact. Elite QBs don't have losing records.

 

[LKP]

2011 true record was 12-4
9-7 in 2012
11-5 in 2013
13-3 in 2014
10-6 in 2015

With several deep playoff runs.

 

[LKP]

2011 true record was 12-4
9-7 in 2012
11-5 in 2013
13-3 in 2014
10-6 in 2015

With several deep playoff runs.

3 and 0 if he finished games in 2010

2009 rookie year and millen mess doesnr count

 

[sggatecl]

2011 true record was 12-4
9-7 in 2012
11-5 in 2013
13-3 in 2014
10-6 in 2015

With several deep playoff runs.

I had unblocked you and was hoping for a fresh start. Please don't start with this bullshit again.

If you want to defend Stafford that's great, but let's stick to facts shall we?

 

[mhughes0021]

Hes never lived up to his money. At this point i gave up on him ever living up to his draft status.

Couldnt win when we gave him a run game
Couldnt win when we gave him a top 2 defense
Couldnt win when we had one of the best olines in football.
Couldnt win when we changed coaches.
Couldnt win when we got him more weapons.
Couldnt win with Megatron

The guy just cant get it done.....