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No one said we cant talk about it. I actually have like 5 responses talking about it. They just are an opposing view point...which is to be expected on a forum.

You said so yourself that we're "losing our minds" when we thought we were just having a discussion. Which is it? Are we losing our minds or having a discussion, I can't keep up.
 
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No one said we cant talk about it. I actually have like 5 responses talking about it. They just are an opposing view point...which is to be expected on a forum.

The difference here is that everyone else in this thread is talking about whether we will or won't make the playoffs, with discussion as to why it could happen or why it's unlikely to happen.

You, thus far, have focused primarily on why we shouldn't even be discussing it, going so far as to call it "funny".

You're right, it's a discussion board. Discuss away, but don't try to dissuade the discussion from taking place.
 
The difference here is that everyone else in this thread is talking about whether we will or won't make the playoffs, with discussion as to why it could happen or why it's unlikely to happen.

You, thus far, have focused primarily on why we shouldn't even be discussing it, going so far as to call it "funny".

You're right, it's a discussion board. Discuss away, but don't try to dissuade the discussion from taking place.

I disagree. Ive talked about how we will make it cause its the lions thing to do during such a disastrous season. Ive also talked about how we wont make it and listed like 8 examples. You guys just like to freak out when I post and treat it like its something so drastically different then the other 10 people that have disagreed with your viewpoints on this thread.
 
SF almost got past Arizona. But their offense is bad. We could actually shut them out. I don't think I've seen a team score less than 14 points a game for 11 games.
 
Using that prediction machine, if Detroit wins out and all other games go according to their predictions, Detroit gets in. Easy!

Same is true if the Lions win out and every other game this year ends in a tie. It's almost too easy.
 
Falcons beating the Saints, Jags, and Bucs and losing two to Carolina in the final weeks, still doesn't hamper our odds of making the playoffs.

Seattle winning out doesn't hamper our odds, as they would make the wild card as the #5 seed.

The only keys to us making the playoffs are winning out. Yes, it's unlikely, but not because we can't win out, because we're the Lions. It's as simple as that. The ONLY thing that makes it unlikely is that we as fans are negative on the chances of our team doing anything good.

We have a Thursday game against Green Bay at home. We SHOULD win that game. Can't say we will, but on paper, it's a home game against a team we already beat on the road that was just beat by the Bears. They are losing football games to bad teams. We should be able to beat them at home.

We follow that up with a road game against the Rams. We SHOULD be able to win that game with the disastrous injuries they've taken. Can't say we will, but they are playing very bad football right now.

We then have a road game against the Saints. They are already checking out of the building. Head coach is leaving. QB is leaving. Team is down in the dumps, and they have been as bad as us all year. It's a winnable game even on the road.

Up next is the 49'ers. I don't even need to explain why we SHOULD win this game. They are worse off than the Iggles right now. I don't think they can win another game this season. BUT, it's a potential trap game too. They will play spoiler for someone, could be us.

Lastly, we play in Chi-Town against the Bears. They are an injury away from not having a team. They never should have beaten Green Bay, and it speaks more to the weakness in GB this season than the rise of Da Bears. We SHOULD be able to win this game, but it's outdoors, cold climates, home field for the Bears... could be a loss.

Any of these games could be wins or losses, but on paper we SHOULD win them all. That's the point of the discussion. If the Lions beat the teams we SHOULD beat, we can still make the playoffs.

Our odds really boil down to the team doing what it should do, and Green Bay losing one they shouldn't. Oakland or Minny could beat Green Bay, giving us a paved road into the playoffs.

Like the cliche goes... Any Given Sunday, so what should happen on paper means nothing, but the majority of the arguments you brought up are not a factor.

Our odds, assuming we win these games, are either 99% or 1% depending on Green Bay and what happens there.

First, the GB game. You say the Lions SHOULD win that game but I think this is a coin flip game at BEST. The Lions are currently 3.5 point underdogs. Statistically, they only have a 40% chance to win this game.

Rams on the road. The Rams have been pretty bad but they do have a winning record at home and the Lions are 1-4 on the road. I would say the Lions have a slight edge in this game. Probably a 55-60% chance to win.

Saints on the Road. Again, the Saints have been brutal but are a much better team at home. I still think the Lions will be favored in this game so I give them a 60% chance to win.

Home vs the 49ers. This is the trap game! The Lions should be over a TD favorite in this game and this is the ONLY game that they SHOULD win. 80% chance to win.

Bears on the road. If it is snowing I give the Lions a 20% chance to win this game...in good weather I say the Lions have a 40% chance to win.

Based on the percentages of winning each game...I would estimate that they have >5% chance to win out.
 
First, the GB game. You say the Lions SHOULD win that game but I think this is a coin flip game at BEST. The Lions are currently 3.5 point underdogs. Statistically, they only have a 40% chance to win this game.

Rams on the road. The Rams have been pretty bad but they do have a winning record at home and the Lions are 1-4 on the road. I would say the Lions have a slight edge in this game. Probably a 55-60% chance to win.

Saints on the Road. Again, the Saints have been brutal but are a much better team at home. I still think the Lions will be favored in this game so I give them a 60% chance to win.

Home vs the 49ers. This is the trap game! The Lions should be over a TD favorite in this game and this is the ONLY game that they SHOULD win. 80% chance to win.

Bears on the road. If it is snowing I give the Lions a 20% chance to win this game...in good weather I say the Lions have a 40% chance to win.

Based on the percentages of winning each game...I would estimate that they have >5% chance to win out.

I disagree, because I don't think we have any chance of winning out. I think we lose to Green Bay on Thursday and we likely lose to the Bears in the final week.

I'm saying on paper, a home game against a team we have already beat should be a win. A game against a Bears team barely functioning should be a win.
 
I disagree, because I don't think we have any chance of winning out. I think we lose to Green Bay on Thursday and we likely lose to the Bears in the final week.

I'm saying on paper, a home game against a team we have already beat should be a win. A game against a Bears team barely functioning should be a win.

I agree
 
Defense keeps doing whatever the hell they are doing and anything can happen. And honestly I have no idea what theyre doing. Pressure is spotty at best and usually comes from either Ansah or nothing. Slay has found his inner Deon Sanders the last couple weeks....other than that the secondary is a mess yet no one can take advantage of it. LBs have been weak but whitehead is starting to make plays. They've been awesome and I cant tell you how lol.
 
Defense keeps doing whatever the hell they are doing and anything can happen. And honestly I have no idea what theyre doing. Pressure is spotty at best and usually comes from either Ansah or nothing. Slay has found his inner Deon Sanders the last couple weeks....other than that the secondary is a mess yet no one can take advantage of it. LBs have been weak but whitehead is starting to make plays. They've been awesome and I cant tell you how lol.

I'm with you, it makes no sense.

I see Ngata eating up double teams up front. Pressure really isn't consistent. Secondary is riddled with injuries, and somehow playing better. Linebackers seem to give up a big play, and then come back with a stuff.

I have no idea how they've done it. I see nothing out there that says we should be shutting teams down. I personally don't think we can continue doing it.
 
I'm with you, it makes no sense.

I see Ngata eating up double teams up front. Pressure really isn't consistent. Secondary is riddled with injuries, and somehow playing better. Linebackers seem to give up a big play, and then come back with a stuff.

I have no idea how they've done it. I see nothing out there that says we should be shutting teams down. I personally don't think we can continue doing it.

Sounds like a sound defensive scheme at work.
 
Sounds like a sound defensive scheme at work.

Might be.. but as much as I see weak tackling, missed assignments, etc... I can't figure out how.

Something is doing is, but my guess is, we caught some teams flat footed and at the right time and got lucky.
 
Might be.. but as much as I see weak tackling, missed assignments, etc... I can't figure out how.

Something is doing is, but my guess is, we caught some teams flat footed and at the right time and got lucky.

It would be hard to not take that into account. Philly got destroyed the week before @ home, it's no secret Green Bay has been struggling, and Oakland had also been struggling offensively (I even started Stafford in a couple fantasy 1 week pick em's @ Oakland).
 
It would be hard to not take that into account. Philly got destroyed the week before @ home, it's no secret Green Bay has been struggling, and Oakland had also been struggling offensively (I even started Stafford in a couple fantasy 1 week pick em's @ Oakland).

Yeah, but Oakland's passing attack was rated 6th in the NFL that week, and Green Bay's "struggling" offense dropped 30 on Minny the following week.

Philly is just shit. There's no way around that. Philly is shit.
 
If Chicago can beat GB by a FG in a low scoring game, same as us .. both in GB then something's up. GB struggling? Detroit no better than Chicago? Etc.
 
If Chicago can beat GB by a FG in a low scoring game, same as us .. both in GB then something's up. GB struggling? Detroit no better than Chicago? Etc.

We didn't beat Green Bay by a field goal. Mason Crosby beat Green Bay by a field goal. We were very lucky to win that game.

We played better, kept them off the board, but they did the same to us, and I think we all know you give Crosby that kick 20 more times, he makes it all 20 of them. It was a bad snap, a bad kick, and thank goodness for that.
 
If Chicago can beat GB by a FG in a low scoring game, same as us .. both in GB then something's up. GB struggling? Detroit no better than Chicago? Etc.

Yeah, but this is in any given Sunday league. Comparing one game to another is pointless because there is such a fine line between scoring 30 and scoring 17. A drop here, a drop there, a bad play call, a BS penalty, weather, injuries, somebody trips.

I will agree though, that something does not look right in Green Bay. Rogers has been off. Cobb seems to have fallen way off without Jordy on the other side. Devonta Adams is not nearly as good as people thought. They're tight ends suck. Their o line sucks. Just not the same team as the last couple years.
 
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