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[Mitchrapp]

Lol, true.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Yeah I did lol. Let me look it up again.

2008- 3rd round pick- Fluellen (even though this really doesn't count, he's been a vagabond)
2009- 1st round picks- Stafford, Pettigrew. 3rd round pick- Levy
2010- No one left
2011- No one left
2012- 1st round pick- Reiff. 5th round pick- Whitehead

And Matt, overpaid Junk. Pettigrew hardly pays after an extension. Everyone says Reiff needs to go to RT. Still not sure about Whitehead.

And Levy was bad for the first years..

 

[brewer229]

Again, trades and free agency are 5 and 6 on the list in order to build a franchise. Drafting is 1, 2, 3, 4.

You can fill out the lineup with some nice additions here and there. Top to bottom, foundation, it's the draft, period.

It comes down to QB and coaching. Look at the patriots from 2006-2011, they really didn't have very much success in terms of drafts, but yet they still managed to be a very good team every year.

 

[dubbsco]

I disagree with that. Yeah, QB and coaching matters, but you build through the draft. Some crazy stat about Green Bay only having 4 players in the last 6 drafts that came from somewhere else. Scout, draft, develop talent. It's a tried and true formula.

Getting lucky with a guy such as Tom Brady who can elevate everyone happens much less than building a solid foundation.

 

[LKP]

that is one thing you don't seem to understand. It's not terrible luck when a player gets hurt...players get hurt every game! Teams lose players for the season every week!

It is terrible luck. The number of injuries and improtance of injuries varies from team to team and week to week.

Warford, Levy, Ngata. That is super important people. On top of poor injury recoveries from Waddle,Bell,Tulloch. You have Walker too.

2014 the Lions overcame injuries. the injuries are just too much this year and way more important playres.

Arizona had nobody hurt last week. None. Every team we faced this year was a good amount healthier than we were other than Minnesota (which was pretty even)

 

[dubbsco]

Promise me something. If they lose to Chicago, will you quit the BS and go back to the way you were after Arizona embarrassed them?

 

[LKP]

But players did regress too. Reiff, Slay and Stafford were the big ones. That plus injuries, plus turnover prone is a killer.

 

[brewer229]

What happened to Green Bay once they lost Rodgers? Suddenly all that talent and great drafting didn't mean a whole lot with out an elite QB.

I'm not saying drafting isn't important, but I'd take a elite QB and a bunch of crummy drafts over a team with a crappy QB and good drafts.

 

[Mitchrapp]

How is Ngata important? He came from an entirely different system, did you not think that might be a problem? He played some games and didn't do jack shit. Even before the season he said the 4-3 terminology was hard to figure out.

And you wanted him for 12m a year for 4 years. LMAO.

 

[LKP]

If the Lions replayed the first 5 games with Levy, Warford, Ngata healthier. And Tulloch, Waddle, Bell never getting hurt last year. They could be 5-0.

And 9 times ouf 10 I don't think Burton and Redding catch those picks.

But we'll never know. We'll see who they fire.

 

[LKP]

How is Ngata important? He came from an entirely different system, did you not think that might be a problem? He played some games and didn't do jack shit. Even before the season he said the 4-3 terminology was hard to figure out.

And you wanted him for 12m a year for 4 years. LMAO.

Ngata has been producing in the pass rush. Very much so. Good pass rush grade with good numbers. And Lions were top 5 in run YPC allowed before the Arizona game. Ngata has played well.

 

[tomdalton22]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/


looks like there are teams that are getting hit with the injury bug but overcoming it.

 

[Mitchrapp]

 

[LKP]

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/injured-reserve/


looks like there are teams that are getting hit with the injury bug but overcoming it.

That could be some no name guy compared to Warford who isn't on injured reserve. Levy too.

GTFO with that shitty list.

 

[LKP]

If Lions had Packers schedule, they would be 5-0 too.

 

[tomdalton22]

If the Lions replayed the first 5 games with Levy, Warford, Ngata healthier. And Tulloch, Waddle, Bell never getting hurt last year. They could be 5-0.

And 9 times ouf 10 I don't think Burton and Redding catch those picks.

But we'll never know. We'll see who they fire.

And if you left this forum we could have enjoyable football conversations without some idiot trolling us. We will never know about your stupid hypothetical 5-0 Lions start, but you can make the other happen!

 

[Mitchrapp]

That could be some no name guy compared to Warford who isn't on injured reserve. Levy too.

GTFO with that shitty list.

Warford? Who the fk is he? One year and suddenly we're losing because of him. There goes your holeless theory.

 

[Mitchrapp]

If Lions had Packers schedule, they would be 5-0 too.

We got blown out by Minnesota, lol. And blitzed in the second half by SD, lol. Easy teams.

 

[LKP]

And if you left this forum we could have enjoyable football conversations without some idiot trolling us. We will never know about your stupid hypothetical 5-0 Lions start, but you can make the other happen!

It would be silence and sporadic posting without me.

Terrible injury outcome this year including guys returning from injuries.

We'll see how they finish and who gets fired.

Some changes for next year with some free agents gone and cap room (Jason Jones, Ngata (hope they get him back), Walker,Whithead,Lewis,Ihedigbo,Josh Wilson, Waddle (restricted). Tulloch should be a cap cut too.

And now we have to hope Levy recovers properly. Such crap he got hurt. Can't even prove the defense without Suh could be good due to his injury.

 

[LKP]

We got blown out by Minnesota, lol. And blitzed in the second half by SD, lol. Easy teams.

Road games. GB hasn't played in Minnesota. Peterson is really good. Lions shot themselves in the foot with 3 turnovers against Vikings. Same with Chargers (turnovers). And with a healthy Levy like I said, SD couldn't do all thsoe short passes they did.

You replay the game. Those turnovers might not happen.