Sanchez Since Aug 22 (Last 8 Starts)

[biggunsbob]

Well if we can find better I am all for it..

 

[Mitchrapp]

He hasn't been fine.

He's has a couple nice games, and he's has some real stinkers. His biggest problem is he does not eat innings. That CG of his was the first time he went over 7 innings in the whole fucking season.

He's what we have and I hope he does well in the playoffs, but he's very mediocre at best.

I don't know what your definition of fine is but imo he's been fine. Who cares about innings, how many NL pitchers consistently go over 7 innings.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Plus Weaver doesn't average much more. Move him to the NL and he pitches even less.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I just checked, Sanchez averages less than 100 pitches a game. So when he pitches well, his NL coach was taking him out. Up his PC and he'll go more than 7.

 

[tomdalton22]

I just checked, Sanchez averages less than 100 pitches a game. So when he pitches well, his NL coach was taking him out. Up his PC and he'll go more than 7.

He has had 12 starts for the Tigers. He went 7.0 innings twice and over 7 only once. 9 Starts he went less than 7. He went exactly 7.0 innings in 10 of his 19 NL starts.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He has had 12 starts for the Tigers. He went 7.0 innings twice and over 7 only once. 9 Starts he went less than 7. He went exactly 7.0 innings in 10 of his 19 NL starts.

Just saying, up his PC a bit and maybe. There have been times Fister would go 7 and throw like 90 pitches. Not easy to get 7+ if the Manager wants you out.

I never said he was great, but he's been fine and certainly better than Porcello and I'd take him at 8m to fit behind JV, Fister and Max. Of course he might want 12m.

 

[mjsb2]

I don't know what your definition of fine is but imo he's been fine. Who cares about innings, how many NL pitchers consistently go over 7 innings.

Innings is pretty damn important.

As far as Sanchez, he's fine at eating innings.

This will be his 3rd conesuctive season with at least 195 IP.

A starter that you can count on to give you 195 IP with a sub mid to high 3's ERA is very valuable.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Innings is pretty damn important.

As far as Sanchez, he's fine at eating innings.

This will be his 3rd conesuctive season with at least 195 IP.

A starter that you can count on to give you 195 IP with a sub mid to high 3's ERA is very valuable.

In the context of going more than 7 it isn't. Total innings, no doubt and agree which is why JV should get another Cy Young. Now if he goes 6 or less by throwing 120 pitches I might be more worried. But he gets his innings.

 

[gotime909]

He hasn't been fine.

He's has a couple nice games, and he's has some real stinkers. His biggest problem is he does not eat innings. That CG of his was the first time he went over 7 innings in the whole fucking season.

He's what we have and I hope he does well in the playoffs, but he's very mediocre at best.

So Scherzer hasn't been "fine" either by your standards. He's only went over 7 innings 3 times all fucking season. NEVER over 8.

 

[Thumb]

So Scherzer hasn't been "fine" either by your standards. He's only went over 7 innings 3 times all fucking season. NEVER over 8.

Yea, I'd still classify Scherzer as an enigma.

He's lights out at times, and bad at others.

He was fantastic down the stretch, but the majority of the year he has an ERA closer to 5 than 4. Don;t forget most people used to groan when it was Max's turn to pitch until he started rolling in late July.

I believe Scherzer is a #4, #3 maybe.

 

[gotime909]

Yea, I'd still classify Scherzer as an enigma.

He's lights out at times, and bad at others.

He was fantastic down the stretch, but the majority of the year he has an ERA closer to 5 than 4. Don;t forget most people used to groan when it was Max's turn to pitch until he started rolling in late July.

I believe Scherzer is a #4, #3 maybe.

He had a couple bad starts in April that made is Month of April bad(7.77 era), but since then he's been good to great. May 4.04era, June 3.86, July 3.62, August 2.25 and Sept 2.17. His era was high for the first half because of his first month, after that it steadily was going down. Meaning he was pitching well most of the year. I say solid #2.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Those are good points. A bad month. But he's been solid since..

 

[gotime909]

Those are good points. A bad month. But he's been solid since..

those occasional bad starts are what keeps him from being a #1, doesn't make him a "4 maybe 3".

 

[Mitchrapp]

Which is fine because Fister is a good 2.

 

[gotime909]

Which is fine because Fister is a good 2.

I see it as we have a 1+, 2 2's and 2 4's with 3 potential. I'll put our top 3 up against anyone when they're all on.

 

[Thumb]

He had a couple bad starts in April that made is Month of April bad(7.77 era), but since then he's been good to great. May 4.04era, June 3.86, July 3.62, August 2.25 and Sept 2.17. His era was high for the first half because of his first month, after that it steadily was going down. Meaning he was pitching well most of the year. I say solid #2.

Well that's your opinion, but my opinion is Scherzer never even got close to "solid #2" numbers until after July this year.

Scherzer could be a 3 easily if he can lose the brown-eye starts that have plagued him every season.

 

[@Stakesarehigh]

Scherzer has a really low GB ratio (granted he strikes out 11 per 9) which helps drive his high BABIP (along with Detroit's porous defense)...A healthy Fister is probably a little closer to the 2 imo and if it was my call I'd go with Fister for game 2.


But I definitely prefer detroit rotation "issues" to the Yanks for example.

 

[grandy]

2 starts in the playoffs so far

vs Oak: 6.1IP 5H 2ER 2BB 2K
vs NYY: 7IP 3H 0ER 3BB 7K

 

[Mitchrapp]

And they were against good teams so haters, suck it.

 

[@Stakesarehigh]

And they were against good teams so haters, suck it.

Thumb is starting soften on sanchez he said "for the right price" when I asked yesterday if people still didn't want sanchez back.

I think for a guy transitioning from the NL to AL he's doing quite well. I do agree on the price discussion but we're seeing these playoffs what a rotation with those four all clicking can do. Any semblance of consistent offense and...