Steelers loss

[Mitchrapp]

I think you just choose to only remember the bad throws. The great throws have become so common you just don't remember them because they happen so often.

Yeah I saw great throws, in 2011. He's regressed.

 

[tonyballs]

So now he's better because he's missed receivers? How many other teams have a Calvin. He's not consistent enough and isn't anywhere close to third best.

then who is better?

 

[tonyballs]

Yeah I saw great throws, in 2011. He's regressed.

lmao...youre a joke.

 

[LKP]

So now he's better because he's missed receivers? How many other teams have a Calvin. He's not consistent enough and isn't anywhere close to third best.

Still produces better despite missing WRs.

Stafford has a ton of yardage and completions to others, some of them big scrubs like Ross and Ogletree. Do you know he's only 54% to Calvin.

 

[biggunsbob]

By the way Redskins were 3-6 last year and rattled off 7 in a row for 10-6. Were they a bad team?
3-6

At 3-6 they were...

Please lets all stop...
Detroit was 6-3 going in and Pittsburgh was a bad 3-6.
We should have won.

 

[LKP]

Stafford will have 5,000 yards again, 30 TD season. Anyone who doesn't like him is a moron. He's on pace to throw less picks then he did in 2011.


Stafford 24 TDs all last year. 23 in 10 games this year.

 

[LKP]

And by the way. 46 drops in 2011 in 16 games. He already has 40 in 10 games.


And 11 batted passes in 2011 in 16. He has 12 in 10 games in 2013.

 

[LKP]

At 3-6 they were...

Please lets all stop...
Detroit was 6-3 going in and Pittsburgh was a bad 3-6.
We should have won.

We should have won, but that doesn't mean Pittsburgh is bad. Especially at home and in the last 6 games.

 

[tonyballs]

Yeah I saw great throws, in 2011. He's regressed.

yep...he's going to surpass his TDs from last year, his comp % is better from last year, he's been smarter with the football this year, he's manufacturing game winning drives, a proven leader and he's going to throw for just as many yards last year or more!!

Youre right genius....total regression. lol

 

[Mitchrapp]

Mitch,

then come up with a list then besides saying its ridiculous. oh wait, you cant because you dont know shit about anything. you dont believe it, therefore the list is bogus. fn priceless....lol

Off the top of my head: Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Wilson, Rivers. And even in just a few games the guy on Philly.

 

[Mitchrapp]

And by the way. 46 drops in 2011 in 16 games. He already has 40 in 10 games.


And 11 batted passes in 2011 in 16. He has 12 in 10 games in 2013.

So batted balls aren't on him either?

 

[LKP]

yep...he's going to surpass his TDs from last year, his comp % is better from last year, he's been smarter with the football this year, he's manufacturing game winning drives, a proven leader and he's going to throw for just as many yards last year or more!!

Youre right genius....total regression. lol

He meant regression for 2011 but that's not even true. There is just higher drop % and batted ball % this year for the comp % fall between 2011 and 2013. Less ints for Stafford. Lesser PFF rank in 2011.

Stafford had more short fields in 2011 as well for the bump in TDS per game.

Stafford is playing great football, just as good if not better than 2011. The weapons are dropping the ball on him, literally.

 

[LKP]

So batted balls aren't on him either?

Nope. Sometimes defenders get their hands up when they are stoned in pass rush.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It still amazes me people use PFF as a credible source.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Nope. Sometimes defenders get their hands up when they are stoned in pass rush.

No kidding, but why is that not on Stafford. Maybe teams realize he sidearms it half the time and throws low balls..

 

[LKP]

It still amazes me people use PFF as a credible source.

It's more credible than you. I'll give it that. They are non biased first of all. And they watch everything multiple times and get the entire picture. Of course drops shouldn't count on a QB. Stafford made the play.

And you really don't remember the bomb to Durham against the Cowboys or to Ogletree against the Bengals or the TD throw against Washington in tight coverage or his darts to Pettigrew, Durham then Calvin last game to pull within 3. You definitely don'g rememer his great throws ot Durham and Ross on the fake FG drive. Overshadowed by the fake FG. Dominating the Bears Week 4. The tremendous TD throw to Calvin on third down for an 8 point lead against Chicago. Not ringing a bell?

 

[LKP]

No kidding, but why is that not on Stafford. Maybe teams realize he sidearms it half the time and throws low balls..

It's not on the QB or the delivery. Sidearm has avoided more bats than helped.

And really the 20 extra drops take him from low 60s to 59 anyway.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It's more credible than you. I'll give it that. They are non biased first of all. And they watch everything multiple times and get the entire picture. Of course drops shouldn't count on a QB. Stafford made the play.

And you really don't remember the bomb to Durham against the Cowboys or to Ogletree against the Bengals or the TD throw against Washington in tight coverage or his darts to Pettigrew, Durham then Calvin last game to pull within 3. You definitely don'g rememer his great throws ot Durham and Ross on the fake FG drive. Overshadowed by the fake FG. Dominating the Bears Week 4. The tremendous TD throw to Calvin on third down for an 8 point lead against Chicago. Not ringing a bell?

Then why do they disagree with everything else? If 10 reputable sites say the sky is blue, PFF says its green..That's their thing.

 

[brewer229]

What is considered a drop?

On the 4th down play (I think) when stafford tried to thread it between two defenders on a slant route to CJ is that considered a drop? Sure he could of caught it but it would of been a tough catch, with a limited reach because of two defenders on you I wouldn call that a drop.

Or a drop behind the LOS with a defender bearing down on you a drop may actually save yards. On 3rd and 9 a three yard pass with a drop isn't a big deal if you aren't going to get the first down anyways.

A perfect pass is easier to catch than one you have to stretch, jump or slide for. Some of drops are truly drops and completely on the WR, some are about 50/50 on QB and WR and some are more on the QB.

Plus if we start giving more credit to a QB because he has drops, we need to take away credit for the WR making a great play. Not many WR can go up in triple coverage and come down with the ball.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It's not on the QB or the delivery. Sidearm has avoided more bats than helped.

And really the 20 extra drops take him from low 60s to 59 anyway.

Yeah sure. And missing an open Bush was because of the rain.

And since you can't grasp the obvious no one is saying Staff is bad or that we don't want him but he needs more consistency. For him to elevate his game to the like of say Rodgers he needs to improve in several areas. So he's better than 2012, yippee - he wasn't very good.

And 5000 yards, you're kidding me right - he throws more than anyone in the league.