Steelers loss

[tonyballs]

retard....completion % is the number of complete passes divided by the number of passes thrown. You don’t arbitrarily "not count" some passes that aren’t caught because you think it wasn't the QB's fault. Are you new to the game of football? If you and LPK want to start some new stat that makes you feel better about your hero Stafford go ahead.

Sure you do, dumbass. a ball that is thrown away shouldnt be considered an actual pass. Youre a moron anyways and dont understand that. he should only be responsible for picks, batted balls, passes defended. why should his comp % take a hit when he hits a guy in his hands or between the numbers and its dropped?

and im not making up stats, you fn idiot. PFF already did that for ya. clue in

 

[Mitchrapp]

You know that might be the dumbest reason why we got outplayed..so its easier when the rain is going with you instead of against you? Lol.

 

[LKP]

They should track almost ints and bad throw TDS too. But they don't. You'll have to prove other QBS have less of those to have a point. I have proven Stafford has more drops than most QBs. And it's sad you want to break Stafford down like that after a 40 TD season and 21 TDS in 10 games for your favorite team.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Sure you do, dumbass. a ball that is thrown away shouldnt be considered an actual pass. Youre a moron anyways and dont understand that. he should only be responsible for picks, batted balls, passes defended. why should his comp % take a hit when he hits a guy in his hands or between the numbers?

and im not making up stats, you fn idiot. PFF already did that for ya. clue in

What? :hehe:

So now passes that he throws away shouldn't be considered a pass? :lmao:

Maybe not his fault, good defense but shouldn't be counted as a pass, lol.

Btw, LKP says batted balls shouldn't be on Staff. I guess you two disagree on something..

 

[LKP]

You know that might be the dumbest reason why we got outplayed..so its easier when the rain is going with you instead of against you? Lol.

Wind buddy. Throwing into the wind and with the wind. Makes a difference. And if it rains harder on Lions drives, that could make a difference with I don't know, let's say drops

 

[Mitchrapp]

They should track almost ints and bad throw TDS too. But they don't. You'll have to prove other QBS have less of those to have a point. I have proven Stafford has more drops than most QBs. And it's sad you want to break Stafford down like that after a 40 TD season and 21 TDS in 10 games for your favorite team.

So when he has a bad game I'm suppose to what: That's okay Matt you were much much better than we really saw?

 

[LKP]

Throwaways aren't counted either. The points is, PFF takes it into account for ALL QBS. It's gives the most informed comparison and actual throwing attempts. A QB is usually a smart play by the QB. Hence you don't count it against him in his actual attempts.

I'm not just taking this into account for Stafford and disregarding it for other QBs.

 

[LKP]

So when he has a bad game I'm suppose to what: That's okay Matt you were much much better than we really saw?

You have to understand what constituted the 41%. Stafford made more plays than 41% of his attempts. Some were just dropped. For instance the Riddick and Ross DROPS right before his int. The int doesn't even happen if Ross hangs onto the damn ball.

You should realize that weather and wind can be a factor against a QB.

See 41% and then saying he sucks. Wrong. It's a good guess but a misinformed opinoins. You need all the facts and conditions.

 

[tonyballs]

What? :hehe:

So now passes that he throws away shouldn't be considered a pass? :lmao:

Maybe not his fault, good defense but shouldn't be counted as a pass, lol.

Btw, LKP says batted balls shouldn't be on Staff. I guess you two disagree on something..

Any QB you clown, not just Stafford. i think its stupid to say it was a pass attempt when he was clearly throwing the ball away. at least it shouldnt count against his comp %. Why is that hard for you to understand?

LKP and i disagree? Cool, wish i could say the same thing about you and Hughes. you have his junk crammed so far down your throat, its embarrassing.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Throwaways aren't counted either. The points is, PFF takes it into account for ALL QBS. It's gives the most informed comparison and actual throwing attempts. A QB is usually a smart play by the QB. Hence you don't count it against him in his actual attempts.

I'm not just taking this into account for Stafford and disregarding it for other QBs.

But no one else does. You know why? Because PFF is crap. Its based off what if's..

 

[LKP]

But no one else does. You know why? Because PFF is crap. Its based off what if's..

It's not based off what ifs. It's based on what actually happened. It provides context of what the **** happened in the game.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Any QB you clown, not just Stafford. i think its stupid to say it was a pass attempt when he was clearly throwing the ball away. at least it shouldnt count against his comp %. Why is that hard for you to understand?

LKP and i disagree? Cool, wish i could say the same thing about you and Hughes. you have his junk crammed so far down your throat, its embarrassing.

Its always counted as a pass attempt. And it wasn't like you having a different opinion on it because you thought it shouldn't count but because PFF says so. Is PFF your gospel?

 

[LKP]

Its always counted as a pass attempt. And it wasn't like you having a different opinion on it because you thought it shouldn't count but because PFF says so. Is PFF your gospel?

It counts as a pass attempt in ESPN/NFL record books but doesn't provide context for whose fault it was.

I can't believe you can dislike Stafford as much as you do. It's insane.

It's like kneel downs. They count against Yards per carry stat. Taking that into account the Steelers ran 1.2 YPC against the Lions. Taking out Big Ben's 4 kneel downs. 1.9 YPC.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It's not based off what ifs. It's based on what actually happened. It provides context of what the **** happened in the game.

Based on their guesses. For example, the think Tony said about throwing the ball away. Maybe there was two receivers wide open and Staff just didn't see them..or the fact a hard catch they see as a drop. Or the fact they judged a batted ball on the defensive line rather than the QB.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It counts as a pass attempt in ESPN/NFL record books but doesn't provide context for whose fault it was.

I can't believe you can dislike Stafford as much as you do. It's insane.

It's like kneel downs. They count against Yards per carry stat. Taking that into account the Steelers ran 1.2 YPC against the Lions. Taking out Big Ben's 4 kneel downs. 1.9 YPC.

Where did I say I disliked him. Where did anyone say that? I just said he had a bad game and lacks consistency. Why am I wrong..?

 

[LKP]

Where did I say I disliked him. Where did anyone say that? I just said he had a bad game and lacks consistency. Why am I wrong..?

Because you don't take into account all the factors and completely disregard Staffords good plays as, oh Calvin is just awesome.

 

[LKP]

Where did I say I disliked him. Where did anyone say that? I just said he had a bad game and lacks consistency. Why am I wrong..?

And you were talking about hoping the Lions could sign Aaron Rodgers earlier. Meaning you've given up on Stafford.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Because you don't take into account all the factors and completely disregard Staffords good plays as, oh Calvin is just awesome.

When did I say that. Can I just say you completely ignore his bad plays, oh WR 2 and 3 are out.

 

[brewer229]

When you start adjusting for drops, throwaways, etc you are diving into a new realm of stats. You then need to start looking at if the throwaway was the correct play, why the dropped happened and a bunch if other factors

All I know based on what I saw at least 14 points were left on the field because of inaccuracte throws. At the end of the day even after the 97 yard drive the offense still had a chance to win the game and didn't get it done.

When you are paid as a to tier QB you are expected to perform like one. Stafford is not able to consistently show it, he needs to be better.

 

[Mitchrapp]

And you were talking about hoping the Lions could sign Aaron Rodgers earlier. Meaning you've given up on Stafford.

It was a joke..like when you say Fox is good. Oh wait..:nod: