Stupid Book

[wolverine304]

does he cite his sources in the book? either in the text, or in footnotes?

after listening to that interview, I'm starting to think this book may not be so hot...

He claims all his stuff was substantiated fact... but unless BM, Carr, or RR himself talked to him directly, how could he have known what was said at their lunch meeting in '09? iffy. Sounds like if he went by what he could prove in a court of law, i.e. if he excluded hearsay, this would've been a much shorter book.

Which would make it less interesting and wouldn't sell as much.

 

[TheVictors]

I just ordered it on Amazon.

 

[hungry]

Well, supposedly he talked quite a bit with RR.

 

[redandguilty]

I don't think this book is completely accurate. There have been piddly little things I can't remember that amount to using the words "always" or "never" when it should be "usually" or "rarely", but I found a claim that when Minnesota wins the Little Brown Jug, people drink from it.

I seem to remember reading that you can't. OK, I found it http://mvictors.com/?p=11173

 

[redandguilty]

does he cite his sources in the book? either in the text, or in footnotes?

after listening to that interview, I'm starting to think this book may not be so hot...

He claims all his stuff was substantiated fact... but unless BM, Carr, or RR himself talked to him directly, how could he have known what was said at their lunch meeting in '09? iffy. Sounds like if he went by what he could prove in a court of law, i.e. if he excluded hearsay, this would've been a much shorter book.

He usually doesn't name sources. Sometimes he says how many sources he had. In defending/explaining his use of hearsay, he claimed that he's been told who tipped off the Freep on the CARA stuff, but it's one source that won't go on the record, so he's not using it.

 

[josh200612]

I can't wait to read this.

 

[Michchamp]

WELL LOOKIE WHAT WE HAVE HERE...

Just got to the office, and my copy is here. goddam this is a big book. my laptop bag-satchel is going to be stuffed on the commute home.

 

[redandguilty]

WELL LOOKIE WHAT WE HAVE HERE...

Just got to the office, and my copy is here. goddam this is a big book. my laptop bag-satchel is going to be stuffed on the commute home.

Have fun stormin' the castle!

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

WELL LOOKIE WHAT WE HAVE HERE...

Just got to the office, and my copy is here. goddam this is a big book. my laptop bag-satchel is going to be stuffed on the commute home.

Have fun stormin' the castle!

You're just hoping to get the PB quotes going again, aren't you?

 

[redandguilty]

Have fun stormin' the castle!

You're just hoping to get the PB quotes going again, aren't you?

Yeah...that one was a stretch.

 

[Michchamp]

storming the castle... with a book?

 

[wolverine304]

WELL LOOKIE WHAT WE HAVE HERE...

Just got to the office, and my copy is here. goddam this is a big book. my laptop bag-satchel is going to be stuffed on the commute home.

Its not a purse its a satchel!

Indiana jones had one..

 

[Michchamp]

it's a square black leather, Kenneth Cole bag. it's made for carrying a laptop and a bunch of papers and stuff.

 

[redandguilty]

storming the castle... with a book?

No, but after you read it, I imagine you'll find reason to storm somebody's castle (I want to storm the Freep.)

 

[TheVictors]

I read that excerpt on MGoBlog last night where Brian Cook says he aggressively gets into it with Rosenberg over the "practicing too much" story and all Rosenberg did was question "who" this guy was asking him such specific questions ....

Seems the Freep (or someone there) had an agenda for that story.

 

[wolverine304]

it's a square black leather, Kenneth Cole bag. it's made for carrying a laptop and a bunch of papers and stuff.

Sooo. You don't go on sweet adventures with it.

 

[hungry]

HaHa arguer02 carries a purse

 

[Michchamp]

oh boy... my retard MGoBlog friend/poster just got the book, and sent me an email saying Carr was worse than BM or RR, and therefore we can blame Carr for undermining RR...

this guy is an attorney.

I would not hire him to represent me.

I think the other side could tell him, "No, it was HIS fault we got drunk and hit him with our car, despite never having seen him before!" and he would automatically believe them and urge me to settle...

 

[redandguilty]

oh boy... my retard MGoBlog friend/poster just got the book, and sent me an email saying Carr was worse than BM or RR, and therefore we can blame Carr for undermining RR...

this guy is an attorney.

I would not hire him to represent me.

I think the other side could tell him, "No, it was HIS fault we got drunk and hit him with our car, despite never having seen him before!" and he would automatically believe them and urge me to settle...

I don't get it. I posted in a few threads over there about how the book doesn't make a solid case that Carr started the insurgency and it fact, it does paint a picture where the insurgency rose from the way BM and RR handled the firings...and Carr kept quiet 'cause that's what Carr does. Every time, those posts get the equivalent of good karma...and when I asked if there was something I was missing that leads people to think he's the puppetmaster behind all this, nobody responded.

 

[Michchamp]

oh boy... my retard MGoBlog friend/poster just got the book, and sent me an email saying Carr was worse than BM or RR, and therefore we can blame Carr for undermining RR...

this guy is an attorney.

I would not hire him to represent me.

I think the other side could tell him, "No, it was HIS fault we got drunk and hit him with our car, despite never having seen him before!" and he would automatically believe them and urge me to settle...

I don't get it. I posted in a few threads over there about how the book doesn't make a solid case that Carr started the insurgency and it fact, it does paint a picture where the insurgency rose from the way BM and RR handled the firings...and Carr kept quiet 'cause that's what Carr does. Every time, those posts get the equivalent of good karma...and when I asked if there was something I was missing that leads people to think he's the puppetmaster behind all this, nobody responded.

like I told my friend, my understanding is that Carr would not comment at all for the book. So everything in there regarding what he said or did is hearsay.

I'm not saying the book is WRONG, just that the evidence needs to be considered accordingly, and discounted in light of the fact that it's coming from RR, or sources close to him, and they had both at the time, AND since his firing, every incentive to place as much of the blame for the failure of the regime on Carr or Bill Martin.

Like I said earlier, after you posted that link where Carr welcomed RR in Dec. '07, the idea that Carr should have been constantly in the press praising RR was ridiculous. It wouldn't have helped, even if he did it. It may have even backfired for RR, by keeping the other guy in the headlines.

And certainly after RR threw Carr under the bus after the ohio state loss... no chance Carr was going to bat for RR after that point, nor should he have.

Nevertheless, I seem to remember that Carr did comment a few times about RR that he expected him to succeed and he was the man for the job when reporters got ahold of him and pressed him for comment.

I remain unconvinced that Carr didn't do enough, or should have done more. Some people will believe anything though...