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The official combine thread

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Post everything combine related here :D

http://www.nfl.com/combine/participants

Combine workout schedule:
? Saturday, Feb. 23: Tight ends, offensive linemen, special teams
? Sunday, Feb. 24: Quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers
? Monday, Feb. 25: Defensive linemen, linebackers
? Tuesday, Feb. 26: Defensive backs

Notes:

Barkley not medically cleared to throw
Denard invited as WR
 
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Mayock: DEs Werner, Moore aren't top 10 prospects
By Marc Sessler
Around the League Writer
Published: Feb. 18, 2013 at 02:02 p.m.

With the NFL Scouting Combine just days away, NFL Network's Mike Mayock is talking up a draft class low on quarterback gems, but deep with talent in the trenches.

Finding a premier pass rusher could be a chore, however, with Mayock questioning whether Florida State's Bj?rn Werner and Texas A&M's Damontre Moore are being overvalued at the defensive end position.

"I have a little different opinion than what I'm hearing a lot of people have on these -- quote -- 4-3 defensive ends," Mayock told reporters during a Monday conference call. "I'm not as high on these guys as some people are. For instance, I don't think Bj?rn Werner or Damontre Moore are top 10 players. They might go in the top 10, but I don't see it that way.

"As you start dropping down later, what happens is Ziggy Ansah from BYU, he's got as much upside as anybody in this draft. I don't think he gets to 30. Sam Montgomery, the defensive end from LSU, is a guy that could be there. And (LSU teammate) Barkevious Mingo gets a lot more of the attention, but I kind of feel like Sam Montgomery brings it every snap more than Mingo does. He's not as quick, he's not as gifted, but he's very physical and tough."

Mayock later described Mingo -- seen by many as a future outside linebacker -- as a late first-round pick, pouring cold water on some assessments touting the underclassman as a potential top 10 selection. Mayock last week tagged Werner as the year's top end, followed by Moore, Ansah, Montgomery, and then UCLA's Datone Jones and SMU's Margus Hunt.

It's early in the process and Mayock acknowledged Monday on "NFL AM" that players ripe for a transition from end to outside linebacker -- namely Mingo, Moore and Oregon's Dion Jordan -- could blow up at the combine because they're viewed as freakish athletes, appealing to teams hunting for the next Aldon Smith prototype. That desire alone could push these players up the charts
 
RB to keep an eye on at the combine: Giovanni Bernard
 
Eddie Lacy - RB - Player Alabama RB Eddie Lacy will not run at this week's Combine after suffering a partial hamstring tear during pre-draft training.
Lacy suffered a "small tear in some tissue" around the hamstring. It sounds like a minor injury, but a situation to monitor for a player likely to be selected first overall in 2013 Dynasty drafts. Lacy is the consensus top running back in this year's draft. His absence in Indianapolis will shine a greater spotlight on running backs like Giovani Bernard, Le'Veon Bell, Montee Ball, Andre Ellington, and Stepfan Taylor. Lacy is now targeting Alabama's March 13 Pro Day to run the forty.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
 
I'm looking forward to seeing how well Eric Fisher does. He looks like a Nate Solder clone but a little more polished than Nate when he was entering the draft. He's got the perfect frame and reach for a franchise lt and looked great in the senior bowl.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing how well Eric Fisher does. He looks like a Nate Solder clone but a little more polished than Nate when he was entering the draft. He's got the perfect frame and reach for a franchise lt and looked great in the senior bowl.

wouldnt mind a tackle at pick 5 one bit. Although itd practically force mayhew to get off his butt and find us some starting DEs and CBs in FA. Fisher or Joeckel would both be solid picks at 5. Would fisher project more at LT than Reiff? i know reiff would be a solid RT.
 
wouldnt mind a tackle at pick 5 one bit. Although itd practically force mayhew to get off his butt and find us some starting DEs and CBs in FA. Fisher or Joeckel would both be solid picks at 5. Would fisher project more at LT than Reiff? i know reiff would be a solid RT.

Absolutely better suited for lt than reiff.
 
Since we know we are getting a wr or rb in the second the best we can hope for is Tavon Austin who plays both.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxzPryPMB74

This video gave me a Jim Schwartz level man crush.

I will be interested in his 40 time. If its fast he won't make it to day 2.
 
Since we know we are getting a wr or rb in the second the best we can hope for is Tavon Austin who plays both.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TxzPryPMB74

This video gave me a Jim Schwartz level man crush.

I will be interested in his 40 time. If its fast he won't make it to day 2.

If they do go wr in rd 2 I hope to god deandre Hopkins is there. Not really a burner but a great route runner, solid hands and excels in the redzone. Read that last point because that would seriously help this team.
 
I like Austin because of the KR aspect he also brings. I think he will be a late 1st rd pick though.
 
This is why i like Hopkins. He loves to block and he doesnt give up on plays. Look what he did vs a premier LSU defense. Something no other wide out did this year.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVWGxNjF_k[/youtube]
 
I like Austin because of the KR aspect he also brings. I think he will be a late 1st rd pick though.

KR can be had late in the draft. I would rather have Ace Sanders in the 5th or 6th than Austin in the 2nd. Just my opinion though.
 
if were dumb enough to pick a rd 2 WR again then im on board with Hopkins. dude was a monster this year. Solid #2. unlike the solid #4 we picked last year in rd 2.
 
Barrett Jones knows his draft stock may drop following a lis franc injury

Mike O'Hara ColumnistMore by O'Hara Follow Mike on Google+

Multiple question marks surround T Barrett Jones, including why he shifted positions at Alabama and his physical condition following a lis franc injury

Barrett Jones
INDIANAPOLIS – Barrett Jones is leaving Alabama with so many honors that it would be impressive if they were won collectively by all five members of the Crimson Tide's offensive line.

Name the position, and he played it – right guard, left tackle, center.

Name the award, and he won it. In 2010, he was All-Southeast Conference at right guard. When the need arose for him to play left tackle in 2011, he performed so well that he won the Outland Trophy as the nation's best lineman.

Last year, he moved to center – and won the Rimington trophy as the nation's top center.

He also played on three national championship teams – 2009, '11 and '12. And what meant the most to him was being voted captain by his teammates in 2012.

There's also a little distraction for athletes in major-college programs called going to school, and Jones did more than fill up a seat and slide through school on his reputation and trophies. He was a 4.0 student as an undergrad, and finished his master's degree in 2012 with a 4.0.

How all that translates to a career in the NFL – the championships, trophies and degrees – remains to be seen.

One thing that is certain to slow Jones down is the walking boot he wears on his left foot. He ended his career with what was diagnosed as the dreaded lis franc injury. It required surgery after Alabama's annihilation of Notre Dame in the BCS national championship game on Jan. 7.

Jones showed up at the NFL Scouting Combine wearing the boot and answering questions about the injury. It seemed fitting that he had to cut his media session short Thursday afternoon to go to the hospital to complete his physical exam.

The injury and four-month recovery period means he likely won't be able to work out for the NFL scouts at full strength before the draft, April 25-27.

Jones is smart and a realist. He knows that the injury could hurt his draft stock.

"Obviously, that's the first thing that comes to your mind," he said. "You've got to realize you can't control that. I can't control that I was hurt. I just have to focus on the things I can control. That's interview well and doing all the little things right.

"I hope I have a lot of game film, maybe not at center, but at different positions. I feel like I'm intelligent. I know how to study the game well, make very few mental errors. That's what separates me apart."

Jones is rated by many as the top center prospect in the draft, but this isn't a strong draft for centers. Jones could be drafted anywhere from the middle of the second round through the fourth or fifth, depending on how much teams value his versatility he exhibited by playing three positions.

The obvious question about any player being asked to changed positions is whether it was done because Alabama found a better player and moved him, or if he was so good he could move on his own.

One thing that cannot be denied is that Jones played on one of the best offensive lines in recent college history. Two of his teammates, guard Chance Warmack and tackle D.J. Fluker are legitimate first-round prospects in this year's draft.

Warmack is a top-10 talent, but he might not go that high because team's don't usually draft guards that high.

"That was fun playing with those guys," Jones said. "It's fun to be part of an elite unit, which I thought we were. I played on a lot of good offensive lines, but not any of them even close to as good as this past year."

Top of the line talent: There is usually a strong class of tackles, and this year is no exception. Luke Joekel of Texas A&M is a candidate to be drafted first overall. Eric Fisher of Central Michigan is a close second among tackles and a top-10 prospect.

Other tackles with first-round talent are Lane Johnson of Oklahoma and D.J. Fluker of Alabama (with injury concerns). Kyle Long of Oregon is a wild card. He's talented but raw.

Warmack leads the guard class. It's rare for guards to be drafted in the top 10, but Warmack is a rare talent. Jonathan Cooper of North Carolina is another top guard prospect. He started one game at center and also has done some snapping.

Jones is rated the top center by some in a position without a first-round prospect. Travis Frederick of Wisconsin, Khaled Holmes of Southern Cal and Brian Schwenker of Cal are mid-round prospects.

Lions on the line: A unit that has undergone little change in four years under Schwartz could have a major overhaul.

Only left guard Rob Sims is secure as a starter.

Otherwise, it could come down to opening day before there are solid starters.

Right tackle Gosder Cherilus is a free agent. Right guard Stephen Peterman was released on Feb. 4, and center Dominic Raiola was brought back for the last year of his contract after agreeing to reducing his base salary to the veteran minimum of $950,000 – which is not guaranteed.

Left tackle Jeff Backus has not decided whether to return for a 13th season.

The opinion here: Backus will be back, in some role.

Bill Nagy, claimed on waivers from Dallas last year with an injury history, could be a starter at center or guard. Rodney Austin, who spent last year on the practice squad, is athletic and will get a long look.

Riley Reiff, last year's first-round draft pick, will start somewhere, and 2010 draft pick Jason Fox will compete for playing time, as long as he stays healthy.

Draft projection: The Lions need impact on defense, and that eliminates an offensive lineman in the first round and probably the second. That could change if there is a trade down from the fifth pick of the first round that adds picks.

GM Martin Mayhew pointed to "interior pressure" as a sign of weakness in the offensive line.

That points to bolstering that part of the line in free agency or the draft. If it's the draft, the best guess is that it won't be before the third round because of needs elsewhere.
 
potential day 2 4-3 DE:

Sam Montgomery - DL - Player According to NFL Draft insider Tony Pauline, LSU's coaches are not giving LSU DE Sam Montgomery a "ringing endorsement" to NFL teams.
College coaches -- especially assistants -- are typically brutally honest with NFL clubs, and it was no secret that Montgomery wasn't beloved by LSU's staff. A projected second-day draft pick, Montgomery is a base 4-3 end. His Tigers bookend, Barkevious Mingo, is expected to be a 3-4 outside 'backer in the pros. Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter Feb 22 - 5:29 PM
 
Giovani Bernard - RB - Player North Carolina RB Giovani Bernard measured 5-foot-8 3/8 and 202 pounds at Friday's Scouting Combine weigh-in.
It's quite a bit smaller than Bernard's college listing of 5-foot-10, 205. Skilled in the passing game, Bernard needs a pass-oriented NFL offense in order to become a true feature back, ala Brian Westbrook. He is not a physical runner, but can make defenders miss and will likely shine in the forty-yard dash. Feb 22 - 12:30 PM
 
Giovani Bernard - RB - Player North Carolina RB Giovani Bernard measured 5-foot-8 3/8 and 202 pounds at Friday's Scouting Combine weigh-in.
It's quite a bit smaller than Bernard's college listing of 5-foot-10, 205. Skilled in the passing game, Bernard needs a pass-oriented NFL offense in order to become a true feature back, ala Brian Westbrook. He is not a physical runner, but can make defenders miss and will likely shine in the forty-yard dash. Feb 22 - 12:30 PM

That's my dude. But please no more second round complementary offensive skill players.
 
potential day 2 4-3 DE:

Sam Montgomery - DL - Player According to NFL Draft insider Tony Pauline, LSU's coaches are not giving LSU DE Sam Montgomery a "ringing endorsement" to NFL teams.
College coaches -- especially assistants -- are typically brutally honest with NFL clubs, and it was no secret that Montgomery wasn't beloved by LSU's staff. A projected second-day draft pick, Montgomery is a base 4-3 end. His Tigers bookend, Barkevious Mingo, is expected to be a 3-4 outside 'backer in the pros. Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter Feb 22 - 5:29 PM

http://detroitsportsforum.com/showthread.php?t=9959

Prophetic?
 
potential day 2 4-3 DE:

Sam Montgomery - DL - Player According to NFL Draft insider Tony Pauline, LSU's coaches are not giving LSU DE Sam Montgomery a "ringing endorsement" to NFL teams.
College coaches -- especially assistants -- are typically brutally honest with NFL clubs, and it was no secret that Montgomery wasn't beloved by LSU's staff. A projected second-day draft pick, Montgomery is a base 4-3 end. His Tigers bookend, Barkevious Mingo, is expected to be a 3-4 outside 'backer in the pros. Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter Feb 22 - 5:29 PM

Work ethic with Sam?
 
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