Tigers vs. athletics Game Thread Sept. 20

[kalinecountry]

ok we need a shortstop with better range and also a 2nd baseman without the yips steve sax syndrome.
F.

and delmon can get f'd with a bowling pin for another gidp.

 

[tigerfan2272]

Jesus.... Infante may be the worst infielder we have right now.

 

[spockmaster]

...fuck you infante. seriously. just go fuck yourself and die if you cant make any SIMPLE FUCKING PLAYS. sanchez has been good the last month or so, but im still so fucking pissed off that we traded turner and brantly for him and the pathetic excuse for a 2nd baseman. if we wanted bad defense with little offense at 2nd we could have just kept playing raburn there.

 

[27tigers]

sacrifice bunting is NEVER the right play unless the pitcher is up, regardless of the outcome of this one. leyland just got lucky.

I disagree, because you have to factor in the mindset of your team at that instant. I understand in a vacuum its always better to hit away, but mind games come into play. Anyway, its neither here nor there. It got the runs in.

 

[Thumb]

Raburn could at least turn the DP pretty well....

Scary thought.

 

[kalinecountry]

Tigers manager Jim Leyland on Omar Infante's issues turning the double play:

"I think he had eight errors in Florida.
"I think the only thing that we’ve seen, and we’re working with him — it’s been kind of a shocking thing — is not him missing a ground ball. I don’t care. But on the double play, his footwork has not been ... the customary footwork for turning a double play.
"I’m not going to go into depth on that. I don’t want him reading it in the paper.
"I can say that: In my own personal opinion, I think he wasn’t sure what he wanted to do; whether he wanted to back off, whether he wanted to come across. That’s what it appeared. There have been a couple of those situations that have backfired on him, because he wasn’t ... maybe aggressive enough in the way he wanted to make a double play. He had his feet kind of messed up."

(Question): (can we rule out that he hasn’t gotten the ball where he wanted it?)

"Yeah, that has nothing to do with it. You can rule that out.
"Sometimes you use the bag to your effect (advantage?), you back off use the bag, sometimes you come across — put your left foot on your bag, step out with your right, throw the ball to first base. He got hung up there at the bag, with a guy coming right in.
"Even though the guy was bearing down on him, and it was a tougher play, normally you shouldn’t get spiked on a double play. Unless you just don’t have any time, maybe a bad throw or something."

Following up that Leyland quote, Infante's footwork is still an issue. Didn't appear he threw off the right foot, after tagging bag.

 

[spockmaster]

seriously, this trade is the one of the worst we've made in a decade. worse than jurrjens-for-renteria. we gave up 2 of our top 3 prospects for jack shit.

 

[spockmaster]

that inning was way too easy. lets hope the offense isnt going into shutdown mode again.

 

[kalinecountry]

now Infante's ninth error in 49 games at 2B with the Tigers. He had eight in 82 games at 2B with Miami.

 

[27tigers]

When you watch other teams' 2b-ss combo, it makes the Tigers look like AA.

 

[tigermud]

seriously, this trade is the one of the worst we've made in a decade. worse than jurrjens-for-renteria. we gave up 2 of our top 3 prospects for jack shit.

I think that s/b Jack diddly infante shit!

 

[spockmaster]

When you watch other teams' 2b-ss combo, it makes the Tigers look like AA.

i think the last time we've been truly strong up the middle in the IF was Trammell-Whitaker. i might be wrong though.

 

[27tigers]

No, that sounds about right. 21 years ago.

 

[tigermud]

Tigers 2 Infante fuck ups 1

 

[kalinecountry]

Sanchez with 63 pitches and 5 strikeouts through 4 innings,

Tigers lead 2 - 1.

 

[kalinecountry]

Avisail now 4 for 7 in the series?

 

[coulomb]

damn. garcia is unstoppable

 

[spockmaster]

aside from his abysmal walk rate, ive like what ive seen from Garcia so far. that probably means he'll start in the OF for us next year instead of getting the additional seasoning in the minors that he needs.

 

[spockmaster]

except for that. wtf.

 

[kalinecountry]

oh crap, rookie mistake,