Why not brandin cooks at 10

[Mitchrapp]

Somehow if Watkins is gone we'll take a WR anyway. All off-season it's been about helping Matt Stafford. With the HC, the OC and a number two. I have little confidence this will be a good draft.

 

[lucke]

Somehow if Watkins is gone we'll take a WR anyway. All off-season it's been about helping Matt Stafford. With the HC, the OC and a number two. I have little confidence this will be a good draft.

i don't see how you can go wrong in this draft, with it being as deep and full of talent as it is. any first round pick will be an impact player (except for OL, RB and LB in my opinion)

 

[mhughes0021]

i don't see how you can go wrong in this draft, with it being as deep a full of talent as it is. any first round pick will be an impact player (except for OL, RB and LB in my opinion)

I dunno if I agree. I can see a lot of picks at 10 id be unhappy with if gilbert is gone. Evans, Mosley and lewan would be 3 guys I wouldn't be thrilled about.

 

[Mitchrapp]

We've had drafts in the past that went wrong. I'll wait and see.

 

[atxlion82]

I dunno if I agree. I can see a lot of picks at 10 id be unhappy with if gilbert is gone. Evans, Mosley and lewan would be 3 guys I wouldn't be thrilled about.

What do you have a gainst Evans? Big body and great hands. He had a really low drop rate and most of his catches were down field. Similar drop rate to Watkins who had half his passes at the line of scrimage.

 

[mhughes0021]

What do you have a gainst Evans? Big body and great hands. He had a really low drop rate and most of his catches were down field. Similar drop rate to Watkins who had half his passes at the line of scrimage.

positives is he definitely fits the part as a big body on the outside.

negatives is hes not fast enough or runs good enough routes to create separation on his own.

mostly I don't like him cause I think hes a punk ass thug that could become a whiny bitch in the NFL. Id rather have Moncrief to be honest. Its definitely a personal bias....ill admit he has the talent to be selected at 10.

 

[atxlion82]

positives is he definitely fits the part as a big body on the outside.

negatives is hes not fast enough or runs good enough routes to create separation on his own.

mostly I don't like him cause I think hes a punk ass thug that could become a whiny bitch in the NFL. Id rather have Moncrief to be honest. Its definitely a personal bias....ill admit he has the talent to be selected at 10.

I know he needs to work on his route running. But the one positive is he has great body control to go up and get the ball when Stafford sails it over his head.

 

[mhughes0021]

I know he needs to work on his route running. But the one positive is he has great body control to go up and get the ball when Stafford sails it over his head.

Hes also been in football only a couple years. Not so sure you want to become the organization that picks a project in the top 10 every year. Youll probably continue to pick in the top 10 every year....

Problem with guys that haven't been in football long is by the time you coach them up their rookie deal is about to be over.....

 

[kmd47]

I'd rather have Ebron at 10 over Evans to tell you the truth. Lets get a big, fast, sure handed TE for Lombardi and see what he can do with him.

 

[tonyballs]

Hes also been in football only a couple years. Not so sure you want to become the organization that picks a project in the top 10 every year. Youll probably continue to pick in the top 10 every year....

Problem with guys that haven't been in football long is by the time you coach them up their rookie deal is about to be over.....

Evans is a project? No he's not...

 

[mhughes0021]

Evans is a project? No he's not...

Hes been in football a couple years and doesn't know how to run a route....you can call it whatever you want. Ill call it a project at the NFL level.

 

[lgolfer]

Evans is a project? No he's not...

His first year playing football was as a senior in high school. Then he red-shirted his freshman year at Texas A&M, and then played two years there. So he's played football for 3 years or 4 if you count the red-shirt.

At A&M "more than 85 percent of his pass play snaps outside the red zone resulted in one of three basic routes:
-three to five step hitch
-up/post option to go deep
-intermediate drag route across the middle"

So he's a limited route runner.

Also, one of his big advantages, his strength and size, end up as a disadvantage sometimes because he pushes off against defenders so much. He won't be able to get away with that in the NFL.

This article does a good job explaining why he's not necessarily the best option for the Lions at #10. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1976242-is-mike-evans-a-good-fit-for-the-detroit-lions

 

[mhughes0021]

His first year playing football was as a senior in high school. Then he red-shirted his freshman year at Texas A&M, and then played two years there. So he's played football for 3 years or 4 if you count the red-shirt.

At A&M "more than 85 percent of his pass play snaps outside the red zone resulted in one of three basic routes:
-three to five step hitch
-up/post option to go deep
-intermediate drag route across the middle"

So he's a limited route runner.

Also, one of his big advantages, his strength and size, end up as a disadvantage sometimes because he pushes off against defenders so much. He won't be able to get away with that in the NFL.

This article does a good job explaining why he's not necessarily the best option for the Lions at #10. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1976242-is-mike-evans-a-good-fit-for-the-detroit-lions

golfer, stop agreeing with me on everything or youll soon be viewed as being a negative GB fan! lol

 

[lgolfer]

golfer, stop agreeing with me on everything or youll soon be viewed as being a negative GB fan! lol

Lol. I just have certain guys that I'd prefer the Lions don't draft. Once the season starts, I'll probably disagree with you more, but that's because at that point we're just observing the games. Right now, we can actually talk about tangible change.

 

[mhughes0021]

His first year playing football was as a senior in high school. Then he red-shirted his freshman year at Texas A&M, and then played two years there. So he's played football for 3 years or 4 if you count the red-shirt.

At A&M "more than 85 percent of his pass play snaps outside the red zone resulted in one of three basic routes:
-three to five step hitch
-up/post option to go deep
-intermediate drag route across the middle"

So he's a limited route runner.

Also, one of his big advantages, his strength and size, end up as a disadvantage sometimes because he pushes off against defenders so much. He won't be able to get away with that in the NFL.

This article does a good job explaining why he's not necessarily the best option for the Lions at #10. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1976242-is-mike-evans-a-good-fit-for-the-detroit-lions

great article....basically gives more detail on everything I thought about evans to be true. Doesn't talk about his character...which I also put as a negative. I will say its tough to include a video of evans in the article where johnny football is 6/20 at one point in that LSU game lol...but the video does show a lot of evans' flaws. Mainly his inability to get open cause hes not very explosive. His 4.5 40 was absolutely shocking to me...cause he plays SOOOooo frikken slow on the field. corners have him draped the entire game in games ive seen....mainly cause like the article states, he only runs 3 basic routes. Granted thats more than calvin runs now....all he runs is 7 yard posts nowadays lol. Evans wouldn't be a target for me in the top 20. And at that point id rather target Matthews.

 

[tonyballs]

Hes been in football a couple years and doesn't know how to run a route....you can call it whatever you want. Ill call it a project at the NFL level.

He doesn't know how to run a route? He did just that at the combine and psssed with flying colors. PROJECTS don't get drafted in the 1st rd in the NFL.

 

[tonyballs]

His first year playing football was as a senior in high school. Then he red-shirted his freshman year at Texas A&M, and then played two years there. So he's played football for 3 years or 4 if you count the red-shirt.

At A&M "more than 85 percent of his pass play snaps outside the red zone resulted in one of three basic routes:
-three to five step hitch
-up/post option to go deep
-intermediate drag route across the middle"

So he's a limited route runner.

Also, one of his big advantages, his strength and size, end up as a disadvantage sometimes because he pushes off against defenders so much. He won't be able to get away with that in the NFL.

This article does a good job explaining why he's not necessarily the best option for the Lions at #10. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1976242-is-mike-evans-a-good-fit-for-the-detroit-lions

I still wouldn't call him a project.

 

[lgolfer]

I still wouldn't call him a project.

Hughes was the one who called him a project. My reasons were just to justify why I think there are too many questions about him to draft him at #10.

 

[tonyballs]

Hughes was the one who called him a project. My reasons were just to justify why I think there are too many questions about him to draft him at #10.

That's cool...

The kid's a stud and is a top 10 pick IMO. When i read garbage that he is a terrible route runner and shit, i think of players like Demaryius Thomas and even Calvin. Players that were not goid at running routes but are fn studs in the NFL. Evans is that guy to me. Reminds me of Vincent Jackson to a tee.

He would be a steal at #10

 

[kmd47]

That's cool...

The kid's a stud and is a top 10 pick IMO. When i read garbage that he is a terrible route runner and shit, i think of players like Demaryius Thomas and even Calvin. Players that were not goid at running routes but are fn studs in the NFL. Evans is that guy to me. Reminds me of Vincent Jackson to a tee.

He would be a steal at #10

Whoa. Watkins would be a "steal" at 10. Evans on the other, would be an ok pick. He isn't even the best player at his position, BY FAR. I'd rather draft Ebron at 10, sign a WR, and draft best available WR in the 2nd, whether it be Beckham Moncrief Landry or Matthews.