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Young and broyles

Lol i never said he was a savior. I still think hes a hot head heap of trash. Im not a flip flopper lol. Id trade him in a second for a starting calibur safety or cb....same thing ive said all year. Haven't liked the pick since the second he was drafted.

We used a 2nd on Delmas, 3rd on Spievey, 3rd on Bentley(who has been injured), traded for Houston(2nd round pick by Atlanta) which has worked out very well. Plenty of high picks. Chris Cook(always hurt), Patrick Robinson, Janoris Jenkins doesn't save this secondary right now. And Bentley needs time to develop.

2011 there weren't good corners in the 2nd round left. And Jahvid Best was needed to make the playoffs last year. His monster game against the Bears was needed, we lose that game, Bears make the playoffs. Lions took a risk and it burned them long term but no so much short term.

I have very little complaints about Silva in the 2 games he has played or Florence(other than the one special teams play) and even Jonte Green other than about 2 plays (PI last week and mistackle on Hester).
 
We used a 2nd on Delmas, 3rd on Spievey, 3rd on Bentley(who has been injured), traded for Houston(2nd round pick by Atlanta) which has worked out very well. Plenty of high picks. Chris Cook(always hurt), Patrick Robinson, Janoris Jenkins doesn't save this secondary right now. And Bentley needs time to develop.

2011 there weren't good corners in the 2nd round left. And Jahvid Best was needed to make the playoffs last year. His monster game against the Bears was needed, we lose that game, Bears make the playoffs. Lions took a risk and it burned them long term but no so much short term.

I have very little complaints about Silva in the 2 games he has played or Florence(other than the one special teams play) and even Jonte Green other than about 2 plays (PI last week and mistackle on Hester).

spievey was never going to be a corner....not to mention he blows. Delmas is the only pick you mentioned that atleast somewhat has panned out....but even that is debatable since he cant stay on the field.

The way we keep just throwing picks away in stupid trades (whitehead, thomas) just to pick guys to sit the bench or move up a couple spots to grab guys like leshoure, best. We are like the anti Patriots....in the long run there is a good chance it results in the opposite of what the patriots are....successful.
 
We haven't even used picks on those guys yet, tahir is next year and Thomas the year after, and who cares about those picks when the world is gonna end next month.
 
spievey was never going to be a corner....not to mention he blows. Delmas is the only pick you mentioned that atleast somewhat has panned out....but even that is debatable since he cant stay on the field.

The way we keep just throwing picks away in stupid trades (whitehead, thomas) just to pick guys to sit the bench or move up a couple spots to grab guys like leshoure, best. We are like the anti Patriots....in the long run there is a good chance it results in the opposite of what the patriots are....successful.

Spievey was a high pick for a safety. You are complaining about not using high picks on the secondary but they did. Chris Cook or Patrick Robinson over Best does not fix anything. And with Burlesons injury I'm glad the Lions have Broyles over character issues Jenkins. I don't exactly see the Rams lighting things up on defense.

They used high picks with Delmas, Spievey and Bentley. Unforunately only one worked out so far and Bentley is really still TBD along with Green and Greenwood. Houston has worked out very well. Green has played well but still TBD, Florence played well and Silva has played well but still TBD. Plus we need consistent Dline pressure.

We gave up a 4th for Whitehead who still could pan out. You are complaining about not using 1st and 2nds for CBs not 4ths. Same with the Best trade other than the opportunity cost of taking oft injured girlfriend hitting Chris Cook, swapped 4th round picks, didn't even lose a pick other than a 7th. And with LeShoure it was an extra 2nd, using our 3rd and 4th round pick. 2011 there were no good corners left with 2nd round grades.
 
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What the draft boils down to everyone is whether or not our scouts are correct. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
What the draft boils down to everyone is whether or not our scouts are correct. Nothing more, nothing less.

I think it boils down to developing talent. When no one in recent memory has exceeded expectations.....maybe developing talent is an issue? That or our scouts just suck....
 
I think it boils down to developing talent. When no one in recent memory has exceeded expectations.....maybe developing talent is an issue? That or our scouts just suck....

Sammie Lee Hill. Late round pick out of a DII school. Could start on a lot of teams.
 
Lol i never said he was a savior. I still think hes a hot head heap of trash. Im not a flip flopper lol. Id trade him in a second for a starting calibur safety or cb....same thing ive said all year. Haven't liked the pick since the second he was drafted.

He's trash but you think it's possible to get a "starting" CB or Safety? That's beautiful, buddy...lol.

Btw...he's not trash.
 
He's trash but you think it's possible to get a "starting" CB or Safety? That's beautiful, buddy...lol.

Btw...he's not trash.

He must have wanted Rahim Moore, Marcus Gilchrest, Jaiquan Jarrett or Brandon Harris
 
He must have wanted Rahim Moore, Marcus Gilchrest, Jaiquan Jarrett or Brandon Harris

we were talking trades....get with the program. NE just got talib for nothing. i would have gladly traded titus young for talib. They both have mental issues so i better not hear any crap about personalities lol
 
we were talking trades....get with the program. NE just got talib for nothing. i would have gladly traded titus young for talib. They both have mental issues so i better not hear any crap about personalities lol

would have loved talib..but i get why they can't take that chance...also you saying they both have mental issues..you are fucking stupid..i'm tired of reading your horse shit posts on everything..titus is a bit of a hot head..but hasn't really done much of anything..talib has been suspended...arrested...titus young..has had a personal foul..and punched delmas and it was dealt with...huge differences..but i wouldn't expect you to understand anyways.
 
would have loved talib..but i get why they can't take that chance...also you saying they both have mental issues..you are fucking stupid..i'm tired of reading your horse shit posts on everything..titus is a bit of a hot head..but hasn't really done much of anything..talib has been suspended...arrested...titus young..has had a personal foul..and punched delmas and it was dealt with...huge differences..but i wouldn't expect you to understand anyways.

Didn't he go for a 4th? Detroit doesn't have a 4th, correct? I always love how someone assumes Mayhew didn't try to get him..
 
we were talking trades....get with the program. NE just got talib for nothing. i would have gladly traded titus young for talib. They both have mental issues so i better not hear any crap about personalities lol

They're both 2 different human beings. Comparing them is dead wrong...c'mon now.
 
would have loved talib..but i get why they can't take that chance...also you saying they both have mental issues..you are fucking stupid..i'm tired of reading your horse shit posts on everything..titus is a bit of a hot head..but hasn't really done much of anything..talib has been suspended...arrested...titus young..has had a personal foul..and punched delmas and it was dealt with...huge differences..but i wouldn't expect you to understand anyways.

they both have mental issues. its a fact. how is that horseshit? i dont give a fuck if titus punched his teammate during practice...its all the dumbass personal foul calls strictly cause hes a fucking idiot. Do you even watch the lions? to steal a quote from you...."you are fucking stupid."
 
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Talib went full retard (violence and suspension0, Titus has never done that.

Talib is a free agent at season's end. Given the Lions cap situation, giving up a 4th(or in the Lions case a 3rd) for someone for 9 games is dumb. I'll take Whitehead for his entire contract and developing Jonte Green with playing time over a retard for 9 games.
 
Talib went full retard (violence and suspension0, Titus has never done that.

Talib is a free agent at season's end. Given the Lions cap situation, giving up a 4th(or in the Lions case a 3rd) for someone for 9 games is dumb. I'll take Whitehead for his entire contract and developing Jonte Green with playing time over a retard for 9 games.

are you sure? i coulda swore punching someon in the face was violence.
 
they both have mental issues. its a fact. how is that horseshit? i dont give a fuck if titus punched his teammate during practice...its all the dumbass personal foul calls strictly cause hes a fucking idiot. Do you even watch the lions? to steal a quote from you...."you are fucking stupid."

2 personal fouls from Titus vs a 4 game suspension and whatever games he lost last year for his violence.
 
are you sure? i coulda swore punching someon in the face was violence.

On field vs off field. Talib had gun related incident too and a suspension. And he would be gone in 9 games. Develop Jonte Green and get over it.
 
2 personal fouls from Titus vs a 4 game suspension and whatever games he lost last year for his violence.

and punching your own guy...from behind. and all the dumbass antics on the field. its him dude....its all him. all signs point to crazy.
 
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