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[LKP]

Plus you named one. I named 8 in 3 games against the Lions. They didn't even out.

 

[brewer229]

Plus you named one. I named 8 in 3 games against the Lions. They didn't even out.

I gave multiple that directly helped the lions win by taking points off the board, or giving lions a chance to win when they shouldn't. No matter what you claim, there should never be q hold when you simply need
To run clock, that was a huge mental error and gave the lions a huge break.
If a lion did that you would be screaming how Stafford did enough to get us the win but a horrible penalty by the lineman cost us the win. Please try and deny that.

you gave made up percentages on success rates, insignificant plays that happened in the middle of the field, complained about non calls.

 

[LKP]

I gave multiple that directly helped the lions win by taking points off the board, or giving lions a chance to win when they shouldn't. No matter what you claim, there should never be q hold when you simply need
To run clock, that was a huge mental error and gave the lions a huge break.
If a lion did that you would be screaming how Stafford did enough to get us the win but a horrible penalty by the lineman cost us the win. Please try and deny that.

you gave made up percentages on success rates, insignificant plays that happened in the middle of the field, complained about non calls.

Those things happened but they weren't flukes or bad calls. The hold was a hold by the Cowboys. The hold by Sims against the Giants wasn't. One case is a team making a mistake the other case is a ref making a mistake.

My scenarios are completely different and more rare from what you described other than the RG3 fumble.

60 yard FG made around 10%. That's a good guess.

 

[Mitchrapp]

so if someone falls to the ground it is considered a dive?

Sure, Kevin Smith dove all the time.

 

[lucke]

Sure, Kevin Smith dove all the time.

that actually made me laugh a little bit...

 

[tonyballs]

Sure, Kevin Smith dove all the time.

I miss the invisible turf monster comments

 

[mhughes0021]

I miss the invisible turf monster comments

was absolutely ridiculous how many times it happened lol...wasn't it?

 

[tonyballs]

was absolutely ridiculous how many times it happened lol...wasn't it?

Ridiculous? It was confusing and strange. I never understood it lol

 

[tonyballs]

I remember Roy Williams tripping over his feet but he had clown shoes on because his feet were so big. What was Smith's excuse?

 

[tomdalton22]

You need the whole picture. How many games and how many people. Who did they play that was hurt too is very important. Who home and away. NFC West played NFC South and AFC South. San Fran wetne 4-2 in their division just like Detroit. Lost to Indy, at Seattle, at NO and Carolina.

Seattle. 4-2 division, same as Detroit. Lost to Indy. Rest of AFC South sucks and played Saints at home. Played Carolina week 1 when they started 1-3. Seattle almost lost to Bucs.

San Fran and Seattle are vastly overrated.

and both are in the NFC championship game.

 

[sggatecl]

and both are in the NFC championship game.

Luck/wind/flukes I'm sure. Today is one of those days that I am grateful to have LKP on ignore.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

You need the whole picture. How many games and how many people. Who did they play that was hurt too is very important. Who home and away. NFC West played NFC South and AFC South. San Fran wetne 4-2 in their division just like Detroit. Lost to Indy, at Seattle, at NO and Carolina.

Seattle. 4-2 division, same as Detroit. Lost to Indy. Rest of AFC South sucks and played Saints at home. Played Carolina week 1 when they started 1-3. Seattle almost lost to Bucs.

San Fran and Seattle are vastly overrated.

Oh, boy.

Are you fucking serious?

What fucking planet do you live on?

Defend that statement, Lombardi.

 

[mhughes0021]

Oh, boy.

Are you fucking serious?

What fucking planet do you live on?

Defend that statement, Lombardi.

everyone knows we had the toughest schedule. Min had fran tarkenton. PIT wont all those championships with terry bradshaw. NYG...all those championships with Eli. TB had gruden, sapp, etc. GB has favre. CHI has Ditka. Were lucky we won 7 games.

 

[LKP]

everyone knows we had the toughest schedule. Min had fran tarkenton. PIT wont all those championships with terry bradshaw. NYG...all those championships with Eli. TB had gruden, sapp, etc. GB has favre. CHI has Ditka. Were lucky we won 7 games.

I proved how those teams finished. 8-4 Pit, 7-3 Giants, 9-3 Eagles, 5-3 Ravens, Bucs were in their 4-1 stretch, even Vikings were 4-3-1.

Tougher schedule than you think. I know you just want to pile on and bash the Lions more, but it was tough schedule.

And Seattle and San Fran got nice wins but they are very beatable teams for Detroit. We'll have to see in the playoffs next year if the lions can beat either of them.

 

[brewer229]

I proved how those teams finished. 8-4 Pit, 7-3 Giants, 9-3 Eagles, 5-3 Ravens, Bucs were in their 4-1 stretch, even Vikings were 4-3-1.

Tougher schedule than you think. I know you just want to pile on and bash the Lions more, but it was tough schedule.

And Seattle and San Fran got nice wins but they are very beatable teams for Detroit. We'll have to see in the playoffs next year if the lions can beat either of them.

7-5 pit, 6-4 giants, 8-4 eagles, 4-4 ravens, 3-4-1 Vikings

Those are their records if the lions could beat them. When you can't be average teams you deserve what you get.

 

[LKP]

7-5 pit, 6-4 giants, 8-4 eagles, 4-4 ravens, 3-4-1 Vikings

Those are their records if the lions could beat them. When you can't be average teams you deserve what you get.

They weren't average at the time is the point. Plus alot of them have playoff experience and good leadership. They beat alot of other teams besides the Lions.

 

[brewer229]

They weren't average at the time is the point. Plus alot of them have playoff experience and good leadership. They beat alot of other teams besides the Lions.

You are picking arbitrary dates. If you looked at how the team did the two games before and two games after they played the lions then perhaps you could give it a bit of validity, even then with injuries, weather, etc it really means nothing. Bottom line is the eagles were a playoff team that got bounced 1st round.

 

[LKP]

I'm taking 3/4 or 1/2 of a season. Not random arbitrary dates. Steelers, Giants and Bucs started like shit, then they got a lot better.

I know this is hard for you to believe, but teams can change how they play from the first 4 games. Or even from the first 9, to the last 7. Or even on a game to game basis.

 

[brewer229]

I'm taking 3/4 or 1/2 of a season. Not random arbitrary dates. Steelers, Giants and Bucs started like shit, then they got a lot better.

I know this is hard for you to believe, but teams can change how they play from the first 4 games. Or even from the first 9, to the last 7. Or even on a game to game basis.

You do realize the last section invalidates your whole argument.

You're trying to say based one 3/4 or 1/2 a season the lions had it tough. But then you say teams play differently week to week so that makes it pointless to look at SoS.

 

[LKP]

You do realize the last section invalidates your whole argument.

You're trying to say based one 3/4 or 1/2 a season the lions had it tough. But then you say teams play differently week to week so that makes it pointless to look at SoS.

Eagles (4th Quarter), Steelers and Giants and Ravens and Bucs played well those weeks. Good weeks for them. Toughest schedule ever with them playing their best against Detroit.

Not an easy schedule. Not games the Lions should be heavy favorites? Either way I win. Either they should be heavy favorites meaning they are a gret team that just didn't close or they played a tough schedule based on both the week to week argument and their last 1/2 or 3/4 of the season argument.