Am I just a sucker?

[tomdalton22]

Tate 709 YAC. 1st in league. Benjaimin 177 YAC.

certainly helped Stafford's yardage numbers. Almost 2200 YAC for the Lions.

 

[LKP]

certainly helped Stafford's yardage numbers. Almost 2200 YAC for the Lions.

If it's your job to throw it short on a play call, Stafford did his job. Got to make the right read to throw it short too and allow him to get YAC. Some of the YAC was on the bombs too against Saints and Falcons. it wasn't all short stuff.

Still good for Stafford. Great for Tate.

They throw longer to Calvin and shorter to Tate. 727 yards of 1,033 of Calvin was 11+ in the air. 560 yards of 1,330 to Tate was 11+ in the air.

 

[tomdalton22]

If it's your job to throw it short on a play call, Stafford did his job. Got to make the right read to throw it short too and allow him to get YAC. Some of the YAC was on the bombs too against Saints and Falcons. it wasn't all short stuff.

Still good for Stafford. Great for Tate.

They throw longer to Calvin and shorter to Tate. 727 yards of 1,033 of Calvin was 11+ in the air. 560 yards of 1,330 to Tate was 11+ in the air.

It's funny. Out of the top 10 QBs in total yards Stafford was the only one where more than 50% of his yards came after the catch. 6 of the ten had 45% or less come YAC. Stafford also had the worst completion percentage of the 10 at 60%. 6 of the 10 had completion percentage of 66% or higher. So...he dumps off more than all of them and has the worst completion percentage too. Awesome!

 

[LKP]

It's funny. Out of the top 10 QBs in total yards Stafford was the only one where more than 50% of his yards came after the catch. 6 of the ten had 45% or less come YAC. Stafford also had the worst completion percentage of the 10 at 60%. 6 of the 10 had completion percentage of 66% or higher. So...he dumps off more than all of them and has the worst completion percentage too. Awesome!

Stafford leads guys well. Gets good YAC from that too. Calvin and Tate have a ton of 11+ in the air yards. Only 200 yards from Tate was from behind LOS. Calvin only had one catch from behind LOS for 4 yards.

Throws 1-10 yards can be tough too. Good amount of yards from throws 11+ too.

 

[dubbsco]

 

[tonyballs]

You act like Stafford is the only QB that gets help in the draft. Pathetic...lol

 

[tonyballs]

nyg 6 catches 6 targets 93 yards 0 tds pretty meh
car 5 catches 57 0 tds yards very meh
gb 5 catches 51 yards 0 tds super meh
mia 11 catches 103 yards 0 tds good game
ari 2 catches 41 yards 0 tds yippie
NE 4 catches 97 yards 0 tds pretty average
chi 8 catches 89 yards 0 tds meh
TB 4 catches 50 yards yuck
MIN 7 catches 38 yards OMG FINALLY 1 TD!!!!
CHI 5 catches 62 yards 0 tds
GB 3 catches 45 yards 0 tds

soooo.....I pwned you once again. Ill be anxiously awaiting your apology. You know....you can actually look this stuff up before you comment on it. it will make you look less stupid...stupid.

You have never in your miserable fkn life pwned anyone, buddy. Especially me!! Nothing Tate did ALL year was average, you fkn momo. He helped this team win 11 games and I'm pretty damn sure he may have singlehandedly won a couple for us as well. he's probably the BEST #2 in the league and we're damn lucky to have him. Seattle fucked up letting this monster go because they didn't want to pay him what "he deserved"

And just because he didn't catch 10 balls for 100 yards every game, doesn't make him average. You're the biggest hater I have ever came across in my life. You're a sideshow act that people point and laugh at....it's awesome.

6 rec for 93 yds is great actually. It's called production
4 for 97 - productive
8 for 89 - productive

Again, he's a #2. You expect your #2 to at least get 50-60+ yds a game. He did that numerous times last year and he moved the chains. He surpassed anything that you or I could ever imagine.

YOU'RE DISMISSED!!!

 

[tonyballs]

yes 1000 yard pace with 2 tds.

Benjamin had 1008 yards with 9 TDs.

again...you morons can look this shit up before you type and make yourselves look so dumb...

You're the moron. Benjamin is the clear cut #1 option on that team. He's a 6'5'' beast and a huge redzone threat. He'll always or should always have more TDs than Tate. Tate is the #2 behind a HOF player in CJ. You make no sense as usual...lmao.

 

[kdp1980]

you don't get it lol....he wasn't very productive with calvin on the field. And most of the blame can be placed on Stafford....

100% of that can be placed on Stafford. The chemistry they had when CJ was out vanished once CJ returned. I still don't understand what happened there.

 

[LKP]

100% of that can be placed on Stafford. The chemistry they had when CJ was out vanished once CJ returned. I still don't understand what happened there.

Calvin had the monster games some of those weeks instead. Giants, Bucs, Bears, Dolphins (Tate too), at Bears. All wins. Who cares if Tate didn't have a big game when we won those games. Tate had good support in some of those games.

Tate had monster games Bills, at Jets, Saints, Falcons and Dolphins. 4-1 with Johnson ailing in four of them. And the Bills game was a kicking issue or it would have been 5-0.

Minnesota game. Tate had more targets than Calvin but less yards. Tate was tackled twice on short throws, short of the sticks to kill drives. He didn't have his usual make people miss self that day. Some penalties killed drives, Tate short of sticks twice. 16 was enough that day.

at Min was just Tate as Calvin didn't play. We won 17-3 with two missed Fgs on the road. Tate had 12 targets but was limited to 44 yards. Tip the cap to the Vikings DBs. We still won the game.

Cards and Packers Week 17 blanketed Calvin/Tate. That's not on Stafford that's on Tate and Calvin. Yes more targets went to Calvin those days. But it's Calvin Johnson. Doesn't mean Tate was open. If both Calvin/Tate are blanketed, I'm throwing to Calvin, he gives you a better chance in coverage.

Tate had 97 against Patriots. Calvin only 58. Both had 10 targets each. Tate had an end around for 13 yards too. The chemistry was fine. Our defense was not fine that game. Run game sucked. 3 dropped TDs in that game too.

at Carolina 83 for Calvin and 57 for Tate. Bell and Ross each lost a fumble. One deep ball was picked luckily by Carolina with a crazy tip. Our defense wasn't exactly stellar either. Run game sucked.

 

[mhughes0021]

You're the moron. Benjamin is the clear cut #1 option on that team. He's a 6'5'' beast and a huge redzone threat. He'll always or should always have more TDs than Tate. Tate is the #2 behind a HOF player in CJ. You make no sense as usual...lmao.

olsen is the #1. YOURE WRONG AGAIN.

 

[mhughes0021]

You have never in your miserable fkn life pwned anyone, buddy. Especially me!! Nothing Tate did ALL year was average, you fkn momo. He helped this team win 11 games and I'm pretty damn sure he may have singlehandedly won a couple for us as well. he's probably the BEST #2 in the league and we're damn lucky to have him. Seattle fucked up letting this monster go because they didn't want to pay him what "he deserved"

And just because he didn't catch 10 balls for 100 yards every game, doesn't make him average. You're the biggest hater I have ever came across in my life. You're a sideshow act that people point and laugh at....it's awesome.

6 rec for 93 yds is great actually. It's called production
4 for 97 - productive
8 for 89 - productive

Again, he's a #2. You expect your #2 to at least get 50-60+ yds a game. He did that numerous times last year and he moved the chains. He surpassed anything that you or I could ever imagine.

YOU'RE DISMISSED!!!

never had a problem with tate or his talent after he got here. Ive said all along its staffords fault his production slid when calvin was healthy. Try to keep up...

 

[LKP]

never had a problem with tate or his talent after he got here. Ive said all along its staffords fault his production slid when calvin was healthy. Try to keep up...

Calvin had monster games with Tate in wins. Tate had more targets against Min. Tate had more yards against Pats. Tate had monster games with Calvin limited or hurt.

Pack/Cards both WRs were blanketed.

at Carolina, Tate had plenty of targets. Lions had run game and fumble problems.

There is no problem. You are making up nonsense.

Tate had plenty of targets even with Calvin playing. Of course he gets more when he is the only WR worth anything with Calvin out.

 

[mhughes0021]

Calvin had monster games with Tate in wins. Tate had more targets against Min. Tate had more yards against Pats. Tate had monster games with Calvin limited or hurt.

Pack/Cards both WRs were blanketed.

at Carolina, Tate had plenty of targets. Lions had run game and fumble problems.

There is no problem. You are making up nonsense.

Tate had plenty of targets even with Calvin playing. Of course he gets more when he is the only WR worth anything with Calvin out.

0 great games with calvin healthy.....all but disappeared in a majority of them. stats don't lie.

 

[LKP]

0 great games with calvin healthy.....all but disappeared in a majority of them. stats don't lie.

The tape doesn't lie. The stats do lie.

Stafford 67% and 2 TDs against Saints. The one pick was not his fault.

325 yards and 2 TDs againt Falcons. Perfect second half. The lone pick was not his fault nor was the 1st drive with Sims holding.

at Vikings 17 points (one TD pass on first drive to a 6th round RB) and 2 missed FG drive. Holding penalties and sacks killed drives. Great job without Calvin, Fauria, run game, field goal kicking or blocking by Stafford.

The tape doesn't lie. Stafford played well. 3-0.

Good second half defense by Lions too against Falcons and 1st and 4th Quarter defense against Saints.

 

[LKP]

0 great games with calvin healthy.....all but disappeared in a majority of them. stats don't lie.

Lots of good games by Tate even some great (Dolphins, Giants, Pats). Calvin was being a monster. Tons of wins. 6 wins

The 4 losses weren't because Calvin/Tate were both on the field. It was more run game, protection, defense against Carolina/Pats, some Packers. And Cards/Packers/Pats actually covered Calvin/Tate well. Tough on the road.

 

[tonyballs]

olsen is the #1. YOURE WRONG AGAIN.

No he's not. You're an idiot. KB was drafted to be his #1 WR and that's what he is.

More targets, catches, yards and TDs for Benjamin too. Who's the #1 again?? lol

 

[tonyballs]

0 great games with calvin healthy.....all but disappeared in a majority of them. stats don't lie.

You're a sad pathetic little man, bro....wow. Troll on

 

[mhughes0021]

You're a sad pathetic little man, bro....wow. Troll on

ill be a sad little man....and youll STILL be wrong!

nyg 6 catches 6 targets 93 yards 0 tds pretty meh
car 5 catches 57 0 tds yards very meh
gb 5 catches 51 yards 0 tds super meh
mia 11 catches 103 yards 0 tds good game
ari 2 catches 41 yards 0 tds yippie
NE 4 catches 97 yards 0 tds pretty average
chi 8 catches 89 yards 0 tds meh
TB 4 catches 50 yards yuck
MIN 7 catches 38 yards OMG FINALLY 1 TD!!!!
CHI 5 catches 62 yards 0 tds
GB 3 catches 45 yards 0 tds

 

[tonyballs]

ill be a sad little man....and youll STILL be wrong!

nyg 6 catches 6 targets 93 yards 0 tds pretty meh
car 5 catches 57 0 tds yards very meh
gb 5 catches 51 yards 0 tds super meh
mia 11 catches 103 yards 0 tds good game
ari 2 catches 41 yards 0 tds yippie
NE 4 catches 97 yards 0 tds pretty average
chi 8 catches 89 yards 0 tds meh
TB 4 catches 50 yards yuck
MIN 7 catches 38 yards OMG FINALLY 1 TD!!!!
CHI 5 catches 62 yards 0 tds
GB 3 catches 45 yards 0 tds

Tate had some solid games with CJ. Stop acting like a fkn schmuck