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[lp4ever41]

said it was a waste the second he was drafted....a millenesque pick.

Taking a risk isn't a millenesque pick just cuz it didn't work out or because you called it. Its easy to make statements like that. If you're wrong, no one remembers, and if you're right, you tell the whole world how smart you are. No one cares. We have the best GM we've had in forever and people still have to be smarter than him.

Our GM took a risk. It was high risk, high reward. It hasn't worked. But I still love that he made that gamble.

 

[mhughes0021]

Taking a risk isnt millenesque....you are correct. Trading up into the first round for a guy with injury concerns when you have no offensive line and averaged 0 yards while running to the right and over center. Not to mention he more than likely would have been there in the 2nd. Js made it worse by making it sound like the scouted him via youtube video. All that is what made it millenesque for me.

 

[cheeno]

Taking a risk isn't a millenesque pick just cuz it didn't work out or because you called it. Its easy to make statements like that. If you're wrong, no one remembers, and if you're right, you tell the whole world how smart you are. No one cares. We have the best GM we've had in forever and people still have to be smarter than him.

Our GM took a risk. It was high risk, high reward. It hasn't worked. But I still love that he made that gamble.

Fairley and Leshoure are definitely high risks.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Taking a risk isn't a millenesque pick just cuz it didn't work out or because you called it. Its easy to make statements like that. If you're wrong, no one remembers, and if you're right, you tell the whole world how smart you are. No one cares. We have the best GM we've had in forever and people still have to be smarter than him.

Our GM took a risk. It was high risk, high reward. It hasn't worked. But I still love that he made that gamble.

+1

I doubt people minded the risk much while he was jogging 88 yds against the Bears on Monday night last year.

In NO WAY was Best a "Millenesque" pick IMO....Best has talent, there is NO questioning that.....he just can't stay healthy. Was there a risk involved because of his bad concussion the previous year at Oregon, of course. However, didn't Minnesota take a risk drafting AP when he had a pretty serious collar bone break in college?? That seems to have worked out all right for them.

FUCK....Ernie Sims had 5 or 6 KNOWN concussions at FSU and NEVER had a problem in the NFL.....probably because it's hard to hit someone when you're running past them but you get what I mean.

Millens problem was drafting/trading for/signing players that never had or no longer had talent. (CJ the exception, obviously)

 

[lp4ever41]

Fairley and Leshoure are definitely high risks.

And they may yet work out. Patriots took a risk on Moss. Worked. They took gambles on Johnson and Haynesworth. Failed.

You wanna win, you gotta take risks.

 

[Diggler Cometh]

Taking a risk isnt millenesque....you are correct. Trading up into the first round for a guy with injury concerns when you have no offensive line and averaged 0 yards while running to the right and over center. Not to mention he more than likely would have been there in the 2nd. Js made it worse by making it sound like the scouted him via youtube video. All that is what made it millenesque for me.

It's not like we gave up much to move up.. A 2nd and a 4th to trade into the 1st. No way in hell would he have been there in the 2nd either. If we didn't trade into that spot Indy would have taken him with the next pick.

 

[mhughes0021]

Fix the line first....then worry about the rb position. Thats the main reason i thought trading up for him was ridiculous. And drafting leshoure was ridiculouser...

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

Taking a risk isnt millenesque....you are correct. Trading up into the first round for a guy with injury concerns when you have no offensive line and averaged 0 yards while running to the right and over center. Not to mention he more than likely would have been there in the 2nd. Js made it worse by making it sound like the scouted him via youtube video. All that is what made it millenesque for me.

Talent isn't the issue with jahvid..He was drafted to make plays. Not run behind center..and last year when he was healthy thats exactly what he did. 4.6 yards a pop 112 yards a game. and 7 plays of over 20 yards which is 1 short of tying for second on our team last year despite missing 10 games...millen just couldn't draft talent..outside of calvin...too bad jahvid is probably done for his career...it was a high risk..but it looks like its not working out..

 

[mhughes0021]

Taking a risk isn't a millenesque pick just cuz it didn't work out or because you called it. Its easy to make statements like that. If you're wrong, no one remembers, and if you're right, you tell the whole world how smart you are. No one cares. We have the best GM we've had in forever and people still have to be smarter than him.

Our GM took a risk. It was high risk, high reward. It hasn't worked. But I still love that he made that gamble.

"The best GM we've had in forever" really isnt saying much when all he had to do is be better than MM. I wrote a big long list of stuff last year around this time of things he didnt do very well.....i was more than happy to take the licks then and i feel the same about it now. He hasnt drafted well at all after the 2nd round minus Willie Young, SLH, and mayyybe Levy although thats a big stretch. He handled the Avril situation horribly and its now been seen by the entire team that you will not get what youre promised if you fulfill your end of the deal. He continues to over look bettering our 2 weakest positions, OL and defensive secondary, and we continue to get pounded for it (this years draft finally started to address those needs). FA splashes have been minimal at best since KVB and Burleson....both who will more than likely wont be with the team in 1-2 yrs. Everytime were on ESPN our poor character is brought up. I can go on and on but i need to go get apple pie and ice cream for a bday at work lol.

 

[Diggler Cometh]

What sort of jackassery is this? Are you really bitching about Mayhew? Just look at the roster when he took over this team. He's drafted well and has been unlucky at running back. Big whoop. It wasn't wrong to pull the trigger regardless of your gut feeling at the time. Forget the draft and just look who he's acquired in trades for peanuts. He practically turned an expansion team into a playoff team in 3 years in the toughest division in the NFL.

 

[mhughes0021]

What sort of jackassery is this? Are you really bitching about Mayhew? Just look at the roster when he took over this team. He's drafted well and has been unlucky at running back. Big whoop. It wasn't wrong to pull the trigger regardless of your gut feeling at the time. Forget the draft and just look who he's acquired in trades for peanuts. He practically turned an expansion team into a playoff team in 3 years in the toughest division in the NFL.

its simply pointing out that theres been several negatives along with the postitives. He could have signed avril long term last year for less than 5 mil / yr. now the guy wants over 10 cause he performed well just like mayhew asked him to do...then mayhew doesnt give him the money. You say hes drafted well but i can argue he hasnt drafted that well considering where we were drafting and the production we've got from those picks. Stafford being the HUGE exception to that but ofcourse (keep in mind at this point hes a one hit wonder and only been healthy one season). KVB and burleson were huge at the time. KVB moreso for work ethic and locker room presense (although it obviously hasnt helped in the character dept). Houston was a steal only cause the rest of our DBs suck so bad. Hes a quality #2 on any other team in the NFL. Those are things general managers are supposed to do lol....and sure ill give him credit for those moves. But dont call me a jackass cause i wrote those things about him....they happened....hes the jackass.

 

[Slick]

I agree with Diggler....Marty has hit more then he missed and basically in 4 years went from league doormat to a playoff team.

 

[mhughes0021]

I agree with Diggler....Marty has hit more then he missed and basically in 4 years went from league doormat to a playoff team.

I cant argue with the finished product. I dont think we're out of the woods yet though....cutler stays healthy last year were more than likely watching tge bears in the playoffs. Teams go from doormat to the playoffs all the time....it really happens every year lol. Ill give him more credit if he makes it stick.

 

[cheeno]

All the credit for the turnaround should be given to Stafford not Mayhew. Mayhew played a super small part in the climb out of the gutter, i.e. not fucking up the first overall pick. Like any GM he has his hits and misses, some people make him out to be a genus or an infallible god because he's not Millen, but there is definitely room for criticism from fans like Hughes. IMO all criticism aside he has done some good, we could definitely have worse.

 

[Mitchrapp]

All the credit for the turnaround should be given to Stafford not Mayhew. Mayhew played a super small part in the climb out of the gutter, i.e. not fucking up the first overall pick. Like any GM he has his hits and misses, some people make him out to be a genus or an infallible god because he's not Millen, but there is definitely room for criticism from fans like Hughes. IMO all criticism aside he has done some good, we could definitely have worse.

You might be right but sometimes when guys complain about the misses, they usually mention guys like Best, LeShoure and Fairley in there. Which would be unfair, 2 we don't know about (and only a brain dead GM wouldn't have selected Fairley at that spot) and best was a good pick just has run into concussions.

Doesn't mean it was a bad pick. IMO, he made way more good picks than bad. And I'm not referring to late rounds in which it's mostly just luck.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I cant argue with the finished product. I dont think we're out of the woods yet though....cutler stays healthy last year were more than likely watching tge bears in the playoffs. Teams go from doormat to the playoffs all the time....it really happens every year lol. Ill give him more credit if he makes it stick.

If I'm not mistaken we were even with the Bears when he went out, maybe a game ahead I forget. Its not we were 3 games behind and caught up because of an injury. We had a great chance to make the playoffs anyway.

Doormat to the playoffs when you're 0-16 doesn't happen at all.

 

[lp4ever41]

All the credit for the turnaround should be given to Stafford not Mayhew. Mayhew played a super small part in the climb out of the gutter, i.e. not fucking up the first overall pick. Like any GM he has his hits and misses, some people make him out to be a genus or an infallible god because he's not Millen, but there is definitely room for criticism from fans like Hughes. IMO all criticism aside he has done some good, we could definitely have worse.

Who picked Stafford?

The 2009 draft:
1. Stafford
2. Smith (BUST)
3. Jackson (BUST)
4. Curry (BUST)
5. Sanchez (BUST)

Its not easy picking the only gem from a group of duds. Stafford was not at all a consensus pick like Luck. Most of this fanbase wanted Curry or Smith. I think Mayhew deserves tons of credit for that pick.

 

[Slick]

Who picked Stafford?

The 2009 draft:
1. Stafford
2. Smith (BUST)
3. Jackson (BUST)
4. Curry (BUST)
5. Sanchez (BUST)

Its not easy picking the only gem from a group of duds. Stafford was not at all a consensus pick like Luck. Most of this fanbase wanted Curry or Smith. I think Mayhew deserves tons of credit for that pick.

give a LB 40 milllion guaranteed or draft the converted TE who pretty much all scouts agreed was nothing more then an average RT.

ya...I dont give Marty much credit for Staff.

 

[Mitchrapp]

give a LB 40 milllion guaranteed or draft the converted TE who pretty much all scouts agreed was nothing more then an average RT.

ya...I dont give Marty much credit for Staff.

What would Millen have done? That's usually what I think when determining if Mayhew has done good.

 

[lp4ever41]

give a LB 40 milllion guaranteed or draft the converted TE who pretty much all scouts agreed was nothing more then an average RT.

ya...I dont give Marty much credit for Staff.

Lions beat writer Tom Kowalski believes that Baylor LT Jason Smith and Wake Forest LB Aaron Curry have emerged as the top candidates to be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.
"I don't think Andre Smith is an option at No. 1 and I don't think Stafford is an option at No. 1," Kowalski said. It's still very early, but we must agree. Smith had an outstanding Combine and Curry is viewed as the draft's safest pick.

Beat writer Tom Kowalski believes Baylor OT Jason Smith and Wake Forest LB Aaron Curry have emerged as the best bets to go No. 1 overall to the Lions.
Smith is separating from the rest of the tackle group at the Combine, and Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford simply isn't good enough to go No. 1. It wouldn't surprise to see Stafford tumble out of the Top-10 by draft time.

NFL Network's Mike Mayock considers Jason Smith the best offensive tackle in the draft.
Mayock has Smith (Baylor) first, followed by Eugene Monroe (Virginia), Andre Smith (Alabama), Michael Oher (Mississippi), and Eben Britton (Arizona). Mayock added that Alabama's Smith "has fought the weight his entire life...there's been some weight fluctuation and that worries me."

Lions beat reporter Tom Kowalski writes that he's "more and more convinced" Detroit will take a left tackle No. 1 overall.
Kowalski says it'll be Eugene Monroe or Jason Smith, likely based on which is willing to take a cheaper contract. Kowalski doesn't think the Lions are sold on Matt Stafford and expects them to make a run at Jay Cutler on draft day. Cutler would at least cost Detroit its second first-round pick (No. 20).


Sure, there might've been some scouts who got it right with Smith, but please, don't act like everyone knew he sucked. And don't pretend Stafford was widely considered a great pick. Plenty of GMs would've gone in another direction IMO