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[tomdalton22]

You make it sound like he's throwing 47 60 yard bombs. D can't do shit on a 5 yard slant or a 2-second button hook.

I understand that....all I'm saying is the more a QB throws the more he is going to get hit. You have to be able to run the ball a reasonable amount of the time IMO

 

[Mitchrapp]

I understand that....all I'm saying is the more a QB throws the more he is going to get hit. You have to be able to run the ball a reasonable amount of the time IMO

You mean the more a QB throws the more chance he has at getting hit? No shit.

 

[LKP]

The more Stafford throws the more TDs he has to Calvin Johnson. The Saints threw it a ton too and they ran the ball rather well last season and thus had 5 more points a game. All about consistent effective running and of course having the big guns stay healthy, which is still possible with good pass blocking even with high attempts. Bad pass blocking will lead to less pass attempts and less runs because the Lions won't be moving the chains.

 

[Slick]

fuck it...chuck it 2012.....my motto

 

[Mitchrapp]

Fk yeah. I hope he gets 10 thousand yards and he can get a sandwich named after him. Called the Stafford and chuck..

 

[LKP]

Fk yeah. I hope he gets 10 thousand yards and he can get a sandwich named after him. Called the Stafford and chuck..

I could deal with another 5,000 yard season. Never has happened back to back.

More first downs equals more attempts of everything. Make it happen Detroit.

Saints had 662 passing attempts, Detroit had 666. 4 less attempts

Saints had 75 more rushing attempts 431 compared to Detroits 356. Saints were at 4.9 YPC and 130 yards per game. Detroit runs the ball better, doesn't mean the passing yards won't be there.

 

[mhughes0021]

If the QB is going to drop back to pass every time the D can pin their ears back and attack. Also, the more times he passes the more hits he is going to take. It's common sense.

Best being injured has nothing to do with that was my point. Even when he was healthy he wasnt getting 20 carries / game. If you want to waste all of our WR/TE talent and start running the ball 30 times a game you need:

1) a new oline
2) Leshoure healthy
3) Ksmith not tripping over himself at back up
4) a whole lot of 3rd and shorts

Best is 1 big hit away from being a scrambled egg....even if he came back healthy no front office in their right mind plays him full time and gives him a bulk of the carries.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Play to your strength.

 

[lionsFTW]

Couple of scientific articles relating to game theory in Football and more specifically the run vs pass ratio. Both articles are a bit outdated as the league has caught on more and more in the last couple years but they do a decent job of outlining the philosophy of trying to be unexploitable while giving general (overly simplistic) examples.

http://www.advancednflstats.com/2008/06/game-theory-and-runpass-balance.html

http://www.nber.org/digest/oct09/w15347.html

There was another really good article I read just a little bit ago but I couldn't find it. It did an excellent job of breaking down expectation of run vs pass and how teams should approach trying to be optimal. This of course is entirely team/personnel specific but it helps to understand the theory and where the NFL is heading now that the same 30 or so head coaches (and their staffs) aren't getting recycled over and over like they used to through the 80's and 90's.

In the 2000's, since more of the young statistical orientated assistant coaches have started to get promoted (Bellichick, Sean Payton, Schwartz, etc.), the game has actually seen a pretty big advancement in game theory and probability (see http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009/11/belichicks-4th-down-decision-vs-colts.html).

I will look for the article some more later because it was really good/easy to understand.

 

[wheels002]

WE have the top WR in the league with one of the top QB's in the league. Our WR core as a whole is the deepest in the NFL. We also have 2 good TE's. Not to mention that the rules in the NFL now favor passing teams. It's not rocket science we are a passing team why fight it.

 

[LKP]

WE have the top WR in the league with one of the top QB's in the league. Our WR core as a whole is the deepest in the NFL. We also have 2 good TE's. Not to mention that the rules in the NFL now favor passing teams. It's not rocket science we are a passing team why fight it.

The Lions have to get better efficiency out their WR core including Calvin (96 catches but 158 targets) before I consider them the deepest WR core in the NFL. Young has to prove to be a good number 2, Burleson has to maintain being a decent number 3 and Broyles has to prove he can play in this league. Combining WR and TEs Lions have alot of potential weapons though.

My biggest worry is the Oline repeating their solid to good performance from 2011. 660 plus attempts is alot and the Lions still only gave up 36 sacks and just a decent amount of hits/hurres. Need to repeat that to keep the offense explosive.

 

[Slick]

The Lions have to get better efficiency out their WR core including Calvin (96 catches but 158 targets) before I consider them the deepest WR core in the NFL. Young has to prove to be a good number 2, Burleson has to maintain being a decent number 3 and Broyles has to prove he can play in this league. Combining WR and TEs Lions have alot of potential weapons though.

My biggest worry is the Oline repeating their solid to good performance from 2011. 660 plus attempts is alot and the Lions still only gave up 36 sacks and just a decent amount of hits/hurres. Need to repeat that to keep the offense explosive.

96 catches 1600+ yds 15+ Tds....I'd say the efficency is pretty damn good.

 

[wheels002]

Seriously your pointing out the number of targets Calvin had? You do know that most of his targets that wernt caught are because Staff just throws it near him knowing he will catch most of them. Add to that Titus missed all of training camp with injuries and thats why he didnt do much early in the season. But near the end he was as good as any #2 on any team in the league. I know Nate is our #2 but really he is just there for veteran leadership. Not that he cant make a key catch because he can but he is on the downside of his career.

I have no idea how you can call into question Calvins efficiency when he is the best WR in the league and every DC in the league flat fears the guy. He is tripple teamed on a regular basis and still has the numbers he did.

 

[cheeno]

F'n Calvin Johnson, step it up you plug.

 

[tomdalton22]

WE have the top WR in the league with one of the top QB's in the league. Our WR core as a whole is the deepest in the NFL. We also have 2 good TE's. Not to mention that the rules in the NFL now favor passing teams. It's not rocket science we are a passing team why fight it.

I agree 100% that Calvin is the best WR in the league. Putting Stafford as one of the top QB's in the league is a little pre-mature....he has to do it again without getting hurt IMO. Also saying the Lions WR corp is the deepest in the league is probably an over statement. The Lions have a great WR, a few that are decent and a top 10 TE. IF Stafford stays healthy this year I see no reason that he won't throw for over 4500 yards but he will have to since they don't have any quality RBs.

 

[LKP]

96 catches 1600+ yds 15+ Tds....I'd say the efficency is pretty damn good.

Johnson is awesome don't get me wrong but there is some room for improvement which is scary. 20 more catches with similar targets is possible IMO. The 36 jump balls didn't help as he only caught 9 of the 36 last year. And obviosuly Calvin can do exactly the same and we'll be very happy with him. It's more Young, Burleson and Pettigrew need to work on the efficiency and Broyles has to prove something as a rookie, beating the low bar of 5 catches set by the 4th/5th WR last year. Lions do not have the deepest WR core in the league. They do have alot of weapons but those weapons need to step it up a notch. Burelson probably never will but Young and Pettigrew can.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Johnson is awesome don't get me wrong but there is some room for improvement which is scary. 20 more catches with similar targets is possible IMO. The 36 jump balls didn't help as he only caught 9 of the 36 last year.

Jump Balls? You mean the ones where he has like 9 guys on him hitting him all at the same time? 8 feet in the air? I'm surprised he caught 9.

 

[LKP]

Jump Balls? You mean the ones where he has like 9 guys on him hitting him all at the same time? 8 feet in the air? I'm surprised he caught 9.

He was close to bringing alot more down. I'm not saying the jump balls are his fault but less of them makes him more efficient. Johnson is capable of 20 more catches and if he doesn't get it who cares, he is still awesome.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He was close to bringing alot more down. I'm not saying the jump balls are his fault but less of them makes him more efficient. Johnson is capable of 20 more catches and if he doesn't get it who cares, he is still awesome.

You ever thought if Staff threw less jump balls CJ would catch less balls? 9 of 36 or 4 of 16. Same thing.

 

[Slick]

24:1 catch drop ratio and only 4 legit drops last year....CJ is the LEAST of our worries.