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Lions outplayed their opponents 11-12 times. They earned every win and should have had more. The opponents had good luck. Both teams can't have bad luck, only team gets the good luck.
 
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Both teams can't have bad luck? So in X game, if one QB throws an INT from a tipped ball, and the other team has a fumble occur later in the game because he just dropped a handoff, wouldn't you say both teams suffered from bad luck? What you said makes 0 sense.
 
Both teams can't have bad luck? So in X game, if one QB throws an INT from a tipped ball, and the other team has a fumble occur later in the game because he just dropped a handoff, wouldn't you say both teams suffered from bad luck? What you said makes 0 sense.

It tips to one side usually over the course of game. Sometimes there are games where it is even. That wasn't the case with Detroit in 2013.

A play an opponent can have bad luck. But cumulative overall it was against the Lions.
 
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Funny how bad luck follows shitty play.

It's not shitty play. It's good play that turns into bad play because of bad luck. For instance, the arm bar on Webb against Durham against Ravens. The whole perception of that game changes with a TD there after the PI call because the Lions win. Stafford is a hero for leading a game winning drive like he did on that last TD drive on top of another running TD most likely after the penalty. Tuck isn't even attemptig a miracle FG. Stafford has no need to attempt a pass like he did to Burleson down now and he has one less pick on the day and year.
 
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Same with Giants game. Hold on Sims was a bogus call late in 2nd Quarter after a great completion to Bell and first down. Instead of first down in redzone, Tuck gets a pick later in drive. One less pick for Stafford on the year and in the game. And maybe he has a TD pass in the redzone. And another win for Detroit.
 
What's the old saying? Luck happens when preparation means opportunity? Lions can never take advantage of an opportunity.
 
What's the old saying? Luck happens when preparation means opportunity? Lions can never take advantage of an opportunity.

Lions took advantage but got screwed over several times. Bucs, Ravens, Giants the calamity of bad luck is astounding.
 
Same with Giants game. Hold on Sims was a bogus call late in 2nd Quarter after a great completion to Bell and first down. Instead of first down in redzone, Tuck gets a pick later in drive. One less pick for Stafford on the year and in the game. And maybe he has a TD pass in the redzone. And another win for Detroit.

Is that the drive where the defense dropped an easy pick on 3rd down, then jumped offside on the punt giving the lions a new set of downs?
 
Poor Lions, can't catch a break. Been going on for 50+ years. Someday they'll get lucky.
 
Is that the drive where the defense dropped an easy pick on 3rd down, then jumped offside on the punt giving the lions a new set of downs?

That is not bad luck for the Giants. Drops and actual penalties are not bad luck. Lions made a great play to Bell capitalizing on Giants mistakes. The Sims hold was not a penalty, the offsides was.

If stupid penatlies are bad luck, then the Don Carey penalty delay game of the next drive was bad luck too. Gave the Giants a 52 yard FG instead of a 57 attempt. And Carey only playing due to injuries by all 4 Lions top 4 DBs at the time.
 
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That is not bad luck for the Giants. Drops and actual penalties are not bad luck. Lions made a great play to Bell capitalizing on Giants mistakes. The Sims hold was not a penalty, the offsides was.

If stupid penatlies are bad luck, then the Don Carey penalty delay game of the next drive was bad luck too. Gave the Giants a 52 yard FG instead of a 57 attempt. And Carey only playing due to injuries by all 4 Lions top 4 DBs at the time.

There is no difference. There was a mistake by the defense that benefited the lions. There was no reason he should of went offsides. The official made a mistake on the holding call that hurt the lions.

Both were mistakes, nothing to do with luck.

Lions got the benefit of the overtime fumble too, it appeared brown was down, but they didn't over turn the call. I was certain it was not a fumble.
 
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If I have to go and do some research I will, but the Lions get PLENTY of luck. I can remember times watching the game with some others, and saying, "WOW, that was a lucky break, or what a blown call that helps us out." Thinking the Lions are some poor sap that never can catch a break is so incredibly far off base.
 
Its just bad luck when our WR catches the ball and before he heads out of bounds throws it back in..that still cracks me up.
 
When you start digging for things like bad luck and bad penalties, you know the team sucks. That's junior varsity stuff.
 
There is no difference. There was a mistake by the defense that benefited the lions. There was no reason he should of went offsides. The official made a mistake on the holding call that hurt the lions.

Both were mistakes, nothing to do with luck.

Lions got the benefit of the overtime fumble too, it appeared brown was down, but they didn't over turn the call. I was certain it was not a fumble.

A player mistake is not luck. An official mistake is luck because it's beyond the players control.
Brown was not down. You are reaching. Clearly a fumble. Plus it never should have gone to OT witout the official mistake bad luck.
 
Its just bad luck when our WR catches the ball and before he heads out of bounds throws it back in..that still cracks me up.

Player mistake to fumble plus bad luck. How that ball stayed in bounds, i will never know.
 
When you start digging for things like bad luck and bad penalties, you know the team sucks. That's junior varsity stuff.

I don't need to dig. It was obvious. It's obvious the Lions outplayed 11-12 opponents.
 
I really hope that things will click for you and you realize it's not bad luck/weather/etc to understand why the Lions suck the way they do. It's because they don't know how to win. They have never had any form of winning instinct. The Lions are one of the worst organizations in the history of sports for a reason. And it has nothing to do with bad luck. It has everything to do with them being a sad joke for a football team.
 
A player mistake is not luck. An official mistake is luck because it's beyond the players control.
Brown was not down. You are reaching. Clearly a fumble. Plus it never should have gone to OT witout the official mistake bad luck.

The Stafford interception with 5 minutes left was the biggest point in the game. That cost the lions the game and the playoffs. A holding call in the first half was not. Lions still had the ball after the bad call, lions gave up 7 points while up 7 with 5 minutes to go in a game you have to win

That is loser football. No one to blame but themselves. Lions cost the lions the giants game. Not bad luck.
 
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