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The Stafford interception with 5 minutes left was the biggest point in the game. That cost the lions the game and the playoffs. A holding call in the first half was not. Lions still had the ball after the bad call, lions gave up 7 points while up 7 with 5 minutes to go in a game you have to win

That is loser football. No one to blame but themselves. Lions cost the lions the giants game. Not bad luck.

Will Hill got lucky to be in that spot. He was not in good coverage at the time. Every play is important and changes the game. That holding call goes the correct way and that pick doesn't even matter.
 
He got lucky to be "in that spot?" You are kidding, right?

He was out of play not covering well. It just happened to be tipped right to him. Very lucky. Hill caught it is his only good quality on that play.
 
Will Hill got lucky to be in that spot. He was not in good coverage at the time. Every play is important and changes the game. That holding call goes the correct way and that pick doesn't even matter.

Bottom line you have no idea how the call changes the game, Lions could of scored, someone could of fumbled, missed a field goal, thrown an interception.

I know the interception led directly to 7 points.

There are goon to be bad calls again, if this team can't overcome a bad holding call in the 2nd quarter they are a bad team.
 
Bottom line you have no idea how the call changes the game, Lions could of scored, someone could of fumbled, missed a field goal, thrown an interception.

I know the interception led directly to 7 points.

There are goon to be bad calls again, if this team can't overcome a bad holding call in the 2nd quarter they are a bad team.

Lions are a good team. It wasn't just the hold clal. Giants were a hot team. Lions scored plenty in the second half. Things like that are the difference in the NFL. It was more than 7, it was like a 10 point swing given the Giants had a chance for a late FG too. Lions blow out the Giants without that. Might not even attempt that Stafford throw on the last pick if up bigger.
 
Slay is as big and faster than Gilbert and played in a tougher conference. Maybe Slay goes top 10.
 
Giants lost 3 of their last 4 before coming to Detroit. Try again.
 
Slay is as big and faster than Gilbert and played in a tougher conference. Maybe Slay goes top 10.

Slay only played 1 year in that conference and didn't put up any numbers worth talking about let alone making him a day 1 pick. His stock elevated strictly on measurables alone....he was a late riser at that.
 
Even playing along with this, two questions: 1) What exactly does their game AT Detroit and AFTER Detroit after to do with how they CAME into the game? 2) They came into the game against Detroit with a 5-9 record, so they were not coming into the game hot whatsoever.

With that being said, momentum in the NFL is bull. Every game is its own unique entity. Trying to say they finished 7-3 is a weak justification for a team that sucks. The Giants sucked. So did the Lions. The Lions lost to a slightly less shitty team.
 
LKP, whenever you start to talk about blizzards, drops, bad luck, I want you to recite this quote:

"You are what your record says you are."

That should do you well in all of this.
 
LKP, whenever you start to talk about blizzards, drops, bad luck, I want you to recite this quote:

"You are what your record says you are."

That should do you well in all of this.

That makes lkp a loser. ..since hes always wrong.
 
Nope. Losing 6 of your last 7 tells me the team is exactly what they are. Which is a sub-par, disappointing football team. Pretty much consistent with the past half century.
 
The team finished 7-9. That means they are a pretty middle of the pack team, which is reasonable. How a team finished their last 8 games generally has no impact on how they start their first 8 in the following year. I thought the myth of momentum (positive or negative) had been debunked by now.

A good coach can turn a middle of the pack team into a good team (~10 wins). A bad coach can turn a good team into a bad team. I'm hoping we have good coaches now, but honestly none of us really know. We have the talent to be a good team (we've won 10 games before), and we have the lack of discipline to be a bad team. Saying we're definitely one or the other is just guessing.
 
It's not the momentum I am talking about in the 6 of the 7. It's the fact that they blew chance after chance after chance to wrap up probably the worst division in the NFL. That spoke to how mentally weak they were.

A lot of what I hear about the Lions is how talented they are. Most, if not all of the teams that finish in the middle of the pack have the talent to win 10 or win 6. I think it's some big misnomer on this board that the Lions are just superior to a majority of the teams with talent. Even the Falcons who absolutely sucked last year have a lot of talent. I guess I just tire of hearing about it.
 
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