Congratulations B1G! F@CK ohio

[dubbsco]

That's crap Tom. Tell that to Boise, or Central Florida, or any those little fish that somehow made their way to higher bowls and knocked off the big fish.

 

[tomdalton22]

That's crap Tom. Tell that to Boise, or Central Florida, or any those little fish that somehow made their way to higher bowls and knocked off the big fish.

If they want to swim with the big fish then join one of the power 5 conferences. Those other conferences should be in a lower division. Let them start their own playoff.

 

[dubbsco]

Come on man, you are thinking like the big bad NCAA now. The playoff should not be exclusive. If a team runs the table and doesn't have a god awful OOC, they should get an opportunity.

 

[TheVictors]

This season was an anomoly and for the umpteenth time, nobody really gives a **** about Baylor or TCU. Sorry .....they don't.

And Theeeeeeeeeeeee ohio state university buckeye nuts of mascot pride for ohio (aka, zyxt's team) proved you need a playoff but there is NOTHING that says the way they won it means the format must go to 8 teams.

Look back at the past decade. There were tons of shitty BCS Bowl games that in a playoff scenario wouldnt have added anything to the national title debate.

but consider the fact that .....yes, some perennial contenders were down. Shit, ESPNsucksdonkeyballs imploded over the fact that not only Alabama sucked but so did all the other go to's.

Sorry, but **** the whiners.

like Phillips says over and over ............... Win and nothing else matters. Should four SEC teams go undefeated next year, bet your ass the tone will be different and just as many whiners, if not more, will be bitching about how the playoff should be FOUR .....no, EIGHT SEC teams!!!

 

[tomdalton22]

Come on man, you are thinking like the big bad NCAA now. The playoff should not be exclusive. If a team runs the table and doesn't have a god awful OOC, they should get an opportunity.

The other conferences could still be in the NCAA...just in another division. Let them have a 16 game playoff if they want like the other small divisions do. And just like those tournaments...very few will care or watch.

 

[inkfreq]

This is year one of the playoffs, and the fans of the bubble schools that didn't get in are already screaming to expand to 8 teams. And if they do, the next bubble schools wil scream for 16. And then 32.

"March Madness starts with 64" they will say.

But mark my words.. the minute a blue chip prospect gets hurt in the playoffs, the media will be all over the NCAA for expanding the playoffs beyond four teams.

"They are putting these young men's futures in jeopardy for the all-mighty dollar" Skip Bayless will say.

"I KNOW Peyton Manning, and he told me this is all about money" Stephan A. Jackson will counter.

It's a no-win trap for the NCAA. If they don't expand, it's too "exclusive" and if they do people will get hurt "for money". I say keep it at four, let it ride a decade or two and see how it all works. We went 100+ years with no playoffs, we can all afford to wait and see before changing them.

 

[zyxt9]

Vic, knock off your BS about OSU being my team. My statements of how OSU winning was good for the B1G and for UM have been restated by many others on here. Furthermore, all of us would have made the exact same comments regardless of what B1G school made that run. If you want to argue the comments as they are that is fine, but as I said before you can punch me in the face and all that, but you cross the line when you say OSU is my team or similar. We can disagree on other things, but the continued insult of saying OSU is my team or similar is unwarranted and needs to stop immediately. I do not know how to clarify it any further than that. I've repeatedly asked you to stop, and it is no longer something I am willing to tolerate. There is zero reason to single me out when so many others have made the exact same statements that I did.

 

[zyxt9]

As for making a $100 bet about the expansion, I see no need to do that. It is an opinion and I gave my reasons. You disagree and have provided yours. We will see how it plays out and that is good enough. I may very well be wrong, to which I'm confident you will point out in due course.

 

[thewolverines24]

This is year one of the playoffs, and the fans of the bubble schools that didn't get in are already screaming to expand to 8 teams. And if they do, the next bubble schools wil scream for 16. And then 32.

"March Madness starts with 64" they will say.

But mark my words.. the minute a blue chip prospect gets hurt in the playoffs, the media will be all over the NCAA for expanding the playoffs beyond four teams.

"They are putting these young men's futures in jeopardy for the all-mighty dollar" Skip Bayless will say.

"I KNOW Peyton Manning, and he told me this is all about money" Stephan A. Jackson will counter.

It's a no-win trap for the NCAA. If they don't expand, it's too "exclusive" and if they do people will get hurt "for money". I say keep it at four, let it ride a decade or two and see how it all works. We went 100+ years with no playoffs, we can all afford to wait and see before changing them.

So **** every other college football player that is below the BCS level right?

That's how I view it. They have no problem putting those kids in a 24 team playoff. I guess their future doesn't matter as much.

 

[biggunsbob]

I so disagree with one team helping another team if it wins for the conference... I have never waivered from it... It's ridiculous rooting for O$U... Winning only helps them not any of the other teams in the conference... Michigan needs to win games... Screw the other teams in the Big Ten...

 

[thewolverines24]

I so disagree with one team helping another team if it wins for the conference... I have never waivered from it... It's ridiculous rooting for O$U... Winning only helps them not any of the other teams in the conference... Michigan needs to win games... Screw the other teams in the Big Ten...

Right there with you Bob.

 

[zyxt9]

you're entitled to your opinion Bob...others are entitled to theirs.

no one is arguing that UM winning games is the far more important piece, but it is far from the only one. so many variables, some choose a school for academics, some for how hot the girls are on campus, some for the feel of the campus and surrounding community, some have friends already there or committed to going, some for potential to start or get significant playing time as frosh or soph.

the perceived strength of a conference is another variable. if it wasn't, some 5* kids would be going to smaller conferences. how many kids who are on the fence are leaning away from Big12 after how they screwed things up? there is more to UM than it just being UM, not sure how that is even debatable, and the conference is the biggest piece to that. sure, UM could go away from B1G and become an Independent...but how would that impact their chances of getting into the playoff? It would depend on the perceived strength of their opponents, right? if they only played teams with zero wins and UM was undefeated, would that be worthy of playing in the playoffs? no. the opponents matter. the strength of schedule matters. that strength of schedule is based on opponents records and those opponents records. the conference winning their OOC games is a crucial piece to perceived strength. so those other B1G teams that you so casually dismiss as being unimportant and "screw them"...those teams are important pieces to the foundation UM is built upon. without that foundation, UM is nothing but a pile of ruble. UM winning games in the conference means building a solid structure on top of a firm foundation, without which the structure would collapse or at best be condemned.

so I disagree with your simplified view and blatant disregard for the B1G teams and the conference. they are crucial pieces. that does not mean I am a fan of the Buckeyes, it just means that I understand how a Buckeye victory is not the end of the world, so I view their success with a passive feeling. would I prefer OSU go winless? absolutely! but reality is beating a winless OSU is not nearly as enjoyable as giving OSU their first loss of the season and taking their place in the CG and playoff.

for some, that apparently means I am an OSU fan because I would rather UM beat a strong OSU team than a winless one. a strong OSU means they have to win games, right? therefore I must be an OSU fan! no, I'm a UM fan who prefers the feeling from beating a yet unbeaten OSU over beating a winless OSU, that's all. if you prefer the opposite, so be it...but to me that would be boring and lacking of enjoyment.

 

[dubbsco]

The Big Ten already absolved themselves of the negative criticism by the way some of the bigger teams played at the highest levels.

I don't care if it makes the Big Ten look a little better with a national title vs losing in the title game. You never, ever, ever want to see your rivals win a championship. Urban Meyer can now walk into homes and say, "just won the title, come to us."

As long as Michigan handles their business, they'll get a seat at the table.

 

[Gulo Blue]

Urban Meyer can now walk into homes and say, "just won the title, come to us."

But can he do it with "an enthusiasm unknown to mankind"?

https://twitter.com/CoachJim4UM/status/555691876012281856

Actually...I hadn't thought of it until just now. Remember that article about Harbaugh's tweets being cryptic recruiting messages?

"Attacking this day with Enthusiasm Unknown to Mankind"

What could it mean?

 

[dubbsco]

Sounds like a sci-fi movie

 

[bphillips4gg]

The Big Ten already absolved themselves of the negative criticism by the way some of the bigger teams played at the highest levels.

I don't care if it makes the Big Ten look a little better with a national title vs losing in the title game. You never, ever, ever want to see your rivals win a championship. Urban Meyer can now walk into homes and say, "just won the title, come to us."

As long as Michigan handles their business, they'll get a seat at the table.

Exactly. The only thing Brady Hoke was ever right about, it's still Michigan. They aren't getting snubbed if they're deserving. OSU went to a title game after being blown out the year before (only to lose again). It's not like there's anything to suggest that a Big Ten team that ruins the table would get snubbed,

I don't get why it's so difficult for people to understand that Urban Meyer and his 3 championship rings isa major hurtle in recruiting for Michigan.

 

[dubbsco]

If it's Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana, any other B10 team, sure root for them. But MSU, OSU, no. It directly hurts you when your rival is doing huge things.

 

[thewolverines24]

If it's Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana, any other B10 team, sure root for them. But MSU, OSU, no. It directly hurts you when your rival is doing huge things.

Bingo.

 

[zyxt9]

If it's Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana, any other B10 team, sure root for them. But MSU, OSU, no. It directly hurts you when your rival is doing huge things.

No it doesn't. People are acting like the best recruits will only pick OSU now, which is not the case. For starters, OSU only has so many scholies. Now, UM can entice those who have tons of skill but were not offered OSU scholies and can use the added motivation of beating the team that turned them down. No team stays on top forever.

And if any of the non-rivals went undefeated into the CCG, that would somehow be a less enjoyable game for UM to play than beating winless MSU and winless OSU? Pretty sure in that situation the MSU and OSU games would be considered meaningless wins...which are just so fun to watch. Yeah, I won't watch that boring game between an undefeated UM vs undefeated opponent in the B1G CCG, it just won't compare to the thumping UM put on those winless Sparty and winless Bucknuts.

 

[thewolverines24]

No it doesn't. People are acting like the best recruits will only pick OSU now, which is not the case. For starters, OSU only has so many scholies. Now, UM can entice those who have tons of skill but were not offered OSU scholies and can use the added motivation of beating the team that turned them down.

This isn't the most desirable situation. I wouldn't call Michigan having the ability to offer players that OSU doesn't even want a winning scenario.