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Fairley demoted to second team defense

GREAT JOB!!! BRILLIANT!!!


"How the Lions Got Here"

Suh represents one of the last remaining rookie contracts signed under the rules of the 2006 Collective Bargaining Agreement. During the terms of the old CBA, agents and players had a great deal of leeway to ask for major contract concessions from the team. Suh’s contract would run for just five years with an expected value of $60 million and a maximum value of $68 million. A huge chunk of that, $40 million, was virtually guaranteed upon signing.

Because of the salary structures used in these rookie contracts, teams had to avoid modifying the contracts prior to a first extension.

The Lions, however, would proceed to make a disaster out of Suh’s contract, showing almost no thought of long-term planning. Suh’s contract would be reworked for salary cap relief in both 2012 and 2013, pushing salary cap charges further and further into the contract. To make matters worse, Suh’s deal contained a voidable contract year in 2015, which was simply used as a placeholder for salary cap charges. The charges in the voidable year will remain with the Lions whether or not Suh is on the team that season.

Suh’s original contract would have called for a salary cap charge of $16.147 million in 2014 with just $3.472 million left in charges in the 2015 season. Following all of the restructuring, his cap charge grew to $22.4125 million in 2014 with $9.7375 million in charges still sitting in that voidable contract year.

These decisions have compromised the Lions’ ability to negotiate a long-term extension with Suh at a reasonable compensation level and contract structure. Normally teams will threaten a player with a franchise tag when negotiating a contract, and under his prior contract structure, that figure would have been $19.226 million. While that number seems incredibly high, it would be less cash than he would receive in a contract extension and both sides would have reason to get a contract done. Now the cost of the franchise tag will be $26.745 million with a salary cap charge of $36.483 million.
 
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GREAT JOB!!! BRILLIANT!!!


"How the Lions Got Here"

Suh represents one of the last remaining rookie contracts signed under the rules of the 2006 Collective Bargaining Agreement. During the terms of the old CBA, agents and players had a great deal of leeway to ask for major contract concessions from the team. Suh?s contract would run for just five years with an expected value of $60 million and a maximum value of $68 million. A huge chunk of that, $40 million, was virtually guaranteed upon signing.

Because of the salary structures used in these rookie contracts, teams had to avoid modifying the contracts prior to a first extension.

The Lions, however, would proceed to make a disaster out of Suh?s contract, showing almost no thought of long-term planning. Suh?s contract would be reworked for salary cap relief in both 2012 and 2013, pushing salary cap charges further and further into the contract. To make matters worse, Suh?s deal contained a voidable contract year in 2015, which was simply used as a placeholder for salary cap charges. The charges in the voidable year will remain with the Lions whether or not Suh is on the team that season.

Suh?s original contract would have called for a salary cap charge of $16.147 million in 2014 with just $3.472 million left in charges in the 2015 season. Following all of the restructuring, his cap charge grew to $22.4125 million in 2014 with $9.7375 million in charges still sitting in that voidable contract year.

These decisions have compromised the Lions? ability to negotiate a long-term extension with Suh at a reasonable compensation level and contract structure. Normally teams will threaten a player with a franchise tag when negotiating a contract, and under his prior contract structure, that figure would have been $19.226 million. While that number seems incredibly high, it would be less cash than he would receive in a contract extension and both sides would have reason to get a contract done. Now the cost of the franchise tag will be $26.745 million with a salary cap charge of $36.483 million.

Like I said. This got us Tulloch, Quin, Levy and Bush. Great job.

The franchise number is 22.8 million without the restructures. Old CBA was garbage.

And if Suh wanted to be here. The franchise tag doesn't even matter. Lions need to win to keep him interested.
 
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Like I said. This got us Tulloch, Quin, Levy and Bush. Great job.

The franchise number is 22.8 million without the restructures. Old CBA was garbage.

And if Suh wanted to be here. The franchise tag doesn't even matter. Lions need to win to keep him interested.

it got those guys and along with them came winning seasons and playoff wins...right?

The old CBA was garbage yet other teams aren't in this situation with their players.
 
it got those guys and along with them came winning seasons and playoff wins...right?

The old CBA was garbage yet other teams aren't in this situation with their players.

Going forward yes they can contribute to winning seasons and playoffs. They are good players

Other teams didn't have 3 top 5 picks when the old CBA hit the hardest. Lions had a unique situaiton.
 
Going forward yes they can contribute to winning seasons and playoffs. They are good players

Other teams didn't have 3 top 5 picks when the old CBA hit the hardest. Lions had a unique situaiton.

They MIGHT contribute to winning seasons and playoffs...that is a BIG MIGHT! In the years they have been on the team so far...they have not.
 
Smart franchises knew the old cba was expiring and didn't restructure because of it. Dumb franchises did the opposite....were a dumb franchise. Why the hell would you want to add ontop of an already bad contract?.....everyone knew the old rookie deals were absolute garbage. We added onto 3 of them lmao....ALLLLLL 3 of them. Meanwhile the smart teams have all their rookie deals expiring this year or next...mayhew is dumb.
 
Smart franchises knew the old cba was expiring and didn't restructure because of it. Dumb franchises did the opposite....were a dumb franchise. Why the hell would you want to add ontop of an already bad contract?.....everyone knew the old rookie deals were absolute garbage. We added onto 3 of them lmao....ALLLLLL 3 of them. Meanwhile the smart teams have all their rookie deals expiring this year or next...mayhew is dumb.

It got us Quin, Bush, Levy and Tulloch. We didn't need a cap purge. And not all other teams had 3. Thanks Millen. We needed those players and still do. And we have 3 big deals, Suh on 22 million and still got free agents. It's a great job by the front office.

It was a smart move to restructure all of them since the cap rose. And two of them got new deals. The deals were structured very well too.

If Suh wanted to be here, the franchise tag wouldn't even matter. Greedy guy made 12.5 million his first contract now wants another big one. It is 100% Suh's fault.

Without the restructures, his 2015 franchise cap number is still 22.8 million. Old CBA ridiculousness at it's finest.
 
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It got us Quin, Bush, Levy and Tulloch. We didn't need a cap purge. And not all other teams had 3. Thanks Millen. We needed those players and still do. And we have 3 big deals, Suh on 22 million and still got free agents. It's a great job by the front office.

It was a smart move to restructure all of them since the cap rose. And two of them got new deals. The deals were structured very well too.

If Suh wanted to be here, the franchise tag wouldn't even matter. Greedy guy made 12.5 million his first contract now wants another big one. It is 100% Suh's fault.

Without the restructures, his 2015 franchise cap number is still 22.8 million. Old CBA ridiculousness at it's finest.

It's not Suh's fault...he has the Lions bent over and can squeeze every nickle out of them he can. I don't blame him...I would do the same thing!
 
It's not Suh's fault...he has the Lions bent over and can squeeze every nickle out of them he can. I don't blame him...I would do the same thing!

He made 12.5 million per on his first contract that he shoudn't have gotten. If the Lions offered hims 11-12 per, anything more Suh is just being a greedy person. It is 100% Suh's fault. If Suh wanted to be here, franchise tag doesn't even matter.
 
If Suh was on Atkins or Shermans first year contract, I can understand wanting to get the most you can. However after 68 million in the bank, Suh is now just being a bitch
 
For Suh's morals sake, I hope it's about winning and not money.
 
If Suh was on Atkins or Shermans first year contract, I can understand wanting to get the most you can. However after 68 million in the bank, Suh is now just being a bitch

that makes no sense. If I am a football player I try and make as much as I can while I still can make it.
 
that makes no sense. If I am a football player I try and make as much as I can while I still can make it.

You don't need more than 68 million. Most players don't see that type of money. Suh is set already. He'll still get 10/12 per year which is a ton of money. You don't need 14/16 because of your ego. He's a bitch if it's about money.
 
LKP, it's an endless cycle. It doesn't matter how much a player makes, they want more. There is never a "set" value. It's always more.
 
LKP, it's an endless cycle. It doesn't matter how much a player makes, they want more. There is never a "set" value. It's always more.

The agents want more too. So their company gets the most money. Agents won't let many players take what they should. Drive up the prices. Again this isn't Lions front office fault.
 
The agents want more too. So their company gets the most money. Agents won't let many players take what they should. Drive up the prices. Again this isn't Lions front office fault.

That is the agent's job...to get the most money they can for their client, themselves and the company they work for. If the manager at McDonald's offers you $10 per hour to make the fries but you think you are only worth $8 per hour do you turn down the $10 per hour?
 
These guys have a small window to earn, albeit they can earn lots.

Of course he has enough money, but this really isn't about the money. It's about making the most at your position. Money is what is used as the measuring stick.
 
That is the agent's job...to get the most money they can for their client, themselves and the company they work for. If the manager at McDonald's offers you $10 per hour to make the fries but you think you are only worth $8 per hour do you turn down the $10 per hour?

But I'd like to think if you're willing to accept $10 per hour but the agent says doing fries requires $14 an hour..can't you take the $10..agent works for them eh?
 
That is the agent's job...to get the most money they can for their client, themselves and the company they work for. If the manager at McDonald's offers you $10 per hour to make the fries but you think you are only worth $8 per hour do you turn down the $10 per hour?

If I already made 68 million I would work for 8 an hour.
 
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