First Round thread

[mhughes0021]

buffalo makes a splash!

 

[Diggler Cometh]

I'd take geno all day over him.

 

[johnny2x2x]

One thing I don't want to hear anymore is that Ansah dominated the Senior Bowl. All Star game means nothing, especially for a pass rusher as good O lines are dependent on cohesiveness and experience together. Hopefully we saw plenty in practice that week because the actual game means jack IMO.

 

[lgolfer]

Also, for everyone who says Ansah could be a JPP clone, JPP was the 15th pick in the 2010 draft. So we're taking Ansah 10 picks before where JPP was picked.

 

[Monster]

One thing I don't want to hear anymore is that Ansah dominated the Senior Bowl. All Star game means nothing, especially for a pass rusher as good O lines are dependent on cohesiveness and experience together. Hopefully we saw plenty in practice that week because the actual game means jack IMO.

A DE against an OT (one on one) in the senior bowl (an audition game) means a lot to me.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Ziggy will be 24 in May.

 

[tigermud]

All these Tackles and guards flyin off the board In The first round, who is our left and right tackle next year again?

 

[lgolfer]

All these Tackles and guards flyin off the board In The first round, who is our left and right tackle next year again?

Reiff and Hilliard/Fox...

 

[johnny2x2x]

Ziggy will be 24 in May.

The more I look at it, the more I don't like it. The kid didn't do much in his career. Are we really picking a guy 5th based on one Senior Bowl? That's not what good teams do IMO. He had 5 sacks last season, look at his schedule, it's a few good team, but mostly a bunch of MAC level teams who pass 50 times a game, he couldn't get to the QB regularly against Weber State, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Idaho, Utah State, Hawaii???

I'll just say it, I hate the pick, think these guys took a project based on a good week of practice at the senior bowl. He's got good measurables but did shit in college football. Hope I am wrong and he has 15 sacks as a rookie, but this pick is a big risk IMO.

 

[nerves]

combine comparison

Ansah Aldon Smith
Height 6'5" 6'4"
Arms 35 1/8" 35 3/8"
Weight 271lbs 263lbs
Hands 10 1/4" 9 3/4"

40yrd dash 4.63sec 4.78sec

Bench 21 Reps 20reps

Vert 34.5" 34"

Broad 118" 118"

3 Cone 7.11sec 7.19sec

20yd Shuffle 4.26sec 4.5sec

 

[Mitchrapp]

The more I look at it, the more I don't like it. The kid didn't do much in his career. Are we really picking a guy 5th based on one Senior Bowl? That's not what good teams do IMO. He had 5 sacks last season, look at his schedule, it's a few good team, but mostly a bunch of MAC level teams who pass 50 times a game, he couldn't get to the QB regularly against Weber State, San Jose State, New Mexico State, Idaho, Utah State, Hawaii???

I'll just say it, I hate the pick, think these guys took a project based on a good week of practice at the senior bowl. He's got good measurables but did shit in college football. Hope I am wrong and he has 15 sacks as a rookie, but this pick is a big risk IMO.

You assume that's what they did.

 

[Diggler Cometh]

Trufant could end up the best player in this draft.

 

[johnny2x2x]

combine comparison

Ansah Aldon Smith
Height 6'5" 6'4"
Arms 35 1/8" 35 3/8"
Weight 271lbs 263lbs
Hands 10 1/4" 9 3/4"

40yrd dash 4.63sec 4.78sec

Bench 21 Reps 20reps

Vert 34.5" 34"

Broad 118" 118"

3 Cone 7.11sec 7.19sec

20yd Shuffle 4.26sec 4.5sec

Aldo Smith, 2 seasons 108 tackles and 17 sacks playing in the Big 12 against top competition every week.

Ziggy Ansah, 2 seasons 55 tackles, 4.5 sacks playing against mostly MAC level OTs.

Also, Aldon Smith is currently 4 months Younger than Ansah!!! He has 33.5 sacks in 2 seasons in the NFL.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Trufant could end up the best player in this draft.

Or he Might suck.

 

[wheels002]

Vikings got a steal. We will not to upgrade the middle of our OL.

 

[johnny2x2x]

You assume that's what they did.

Well, they certainly aren't picking him based on his college career. So it's the Senior Bowl and his workouts.

 

[jde7676]

Or he Might suck.

Exactly, nothing about this draft is fact. Give it a couple years before you
Make a definite statement about it.

 

[brewer229]

What were the other options? Trade down wasn't going to happen.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Well, they certainly aren't picking him based on his college career. So it's the Senior Bowl and his workouts.

Maybe tape. Others had him high. I'm sure they did there work.

 

[johnny2x2x]

What were the other options? Trade down wasn't going to happen.

Yeah, that's the only saving grace, didn't have any other options.

Hope Ansah is great and dominates.