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Game 5: Bills @ Lions Thread

It really doesn't matter if he is 2nd or 8th...he hasn't done shit! He is just a middle of the pack QB that has already made about $81M from the Lions and has lead them nowhere.

Stafford has done alot of very good things. He can and has led this offense well the majority of the time. Now he has the D to back him up but no protection and Calvin hurt. We'll see how we respond and if he can pick up more things in the offense. Brees first 8 games and last 8 games in his first year in this offense was very different too.
 
He's shown some good things, sure. But he is also statistically one of the worst quarterback in terms of 4th quarter rating, and has an absolutely atrocious record against teams who end up with a winning record. He is who he is: a guy with a tremendous arm, very little mobility, and has big mental lapses. Everyone expected more out of him, and he's been a disappointment as a Detroit Lion.
 
He's shown some good things, sure. But he is also statistically one of the worst quarterback in terms of 4th quarter rating, and has an absolutely atrocious record against teams who end up with a winning record. He is who he is: a guy with a tremendous arm, very little mobility, and has big mental lapses. Everyone expected more out of him, and he's been a disappointment as a Detroit Lion.

He's far from a disappointment. We are lucky to have him. He makes us competitive despite plenty of weapon injuries and defensive breakdowns in the past (some injury related there too). It's still a team game. He moves the ball for us despite long fields and scores points for us. Finally gets some more support in Tate and the defense and Calvin gets hurt and the Oline forgets how to block. We'll see how he responds now. 3-2 still in first. We'll see. You can go ahead and write him off (you already did), I'm not going to do that. The 2011 guy is still there. Are 34 turnovers from the defense there and enough WR/TE run game support. With Calvin/Tate and growing Ebron it could be but the Oline needs to fix their issues and the run game is junk now.
 
Stafford has done alot of very good things. He can and has led this offense well the majority of the time. Now he has the D to back him up but no protection and Calvin hurt. We'll see how we respond and if he can pick up more things in the offense. Brees first 8 games and last 8 games in his first year in this offense was very different too.

We aren't going to start this again...are we? He has only been an average QB every year except 2011. Overall, in his career he has been middle of the pack and has always been paid like a top 5-10 QB while leading this team to one season with a winning record. He has cost the Lions countless games with his poor accuracy and poor decisions. So far this year he has not come through when his team needed him to carry them to a victory vs. the Bills
 
We aren't going to start this again...are we? He has only been an average QB every year except 2011. Overall, in his career he has been middle of the pack and has always been paid like a top 5-10 QB while leading this team to one season with a winning record. He has cost the Lions countless games with his poor accuracy and poor decisions. So far this year he has not come through when his team needed him to carry them to a victory vs. the Bills

He's paid 10 and he plays like 10. His injured weapons have screwed him. His blocking is now screwing him. His run game has screwed him half the time and the whole time in 2014. He gets support in other areas and loses important support in Calvin/Oline. We need to get Calvin healthy and have the Oline figure it out and we'll be fine.
 
Poor guy, can't catch a break.

Let's be real. In 2011, Calvin made some of the most ridiculously spectacular catches to help Matty Ice out. This team continues to build around him, but as soon as CJ goes down, he forgets how to be a QB.
 
Poor guy, can't catch a break.

Let's be real. In 2011, Calvin made some of the most ridiculously spectacular catches to help Matty Ice out. This team continues to build around him, but as soon as CJ goes down, he forgets how to be a QB.

No his jump ball % was very low that year. 8/40 or something like that. Stafford played well, he got the turnover support (34) and he had other WR/TE support in Burleson, rookie Young and Pettigrew (playing his best).
 
He's paid 10 and he plays like 10. His injured weapons have screwed him. His blocking is now screwing him. His run game has screwed him half the time and the whole time in 2014. He gets support in other areas and loses important support in Calvin/Oline. We need to get Calvin healthy and have the Oline figure it out and we'll be fine.

He is not a top 10 QB and has not played like one any year he has been in the league except for 2011. On the other side he has been paid like a top 2-10 QB in the league every year he has been in the NFL.

I know it is still early in the season but right now his QB rating is under 90 and ranked 19th in the league.

Some of the QBs ahead of him
Cousins
Eli
Austin Davis
Brian Hoyer
Andy Dalton
 
No protection hurts him this year. And limited Calvin. Take away any teams number 1 and they suffer with no protection.

Stafford is paid his worth now.
 
Golden Tate could be a #1 on a lot of teams (was for Seattle last year). Where's our Doug Baldwin? Where's our Marques Colston? Why can't the Lions uncover gems like seemingly every other franchise can?
 
Golden Tate could be a #1 on a lot of teams (was for Seattle last year). Where's our Doug Baldwin? Where's our Marques Colston? Why can't the Lions uncover gems like seemingly every other franchise can?

The gems always pop up around elite QBs. It is because of them they come out of nowhere.
 
The gems always pop up around elite QBs. It is because of them they come out of nowhere.

John Brown, a 5'10'', 3rd rd pick from Pittsburgh state has 11 catches for 130+ yards and 3 touchdowns. His qb is Drew Stanton. John Brown is out producing Eric "blue chip match up nightmare who is not pulling coverage from anyone" ebron. therefor Stanton is a better qb than Stafford....
 
John Brown, a 5'10'', 3rd rd pick from Pittsburgh state has 11 catches for 130+ yards and 3 touchdowns. His qb is Drew Stanton. John Brown is out producing Eric "blue chip match up nightmare who is not pulling coverage from anyone" ebron. therefor Stanton is a better qb than Stafford....

Stanton plays outdoors where he does not have to deal with the strugles of playing in a dome (ie ac coming on and off blowing passes off target)
 
Stanton plays outdoors where he does not have to deal with the strugles of playing in a dome (ie ac coming on and off blowing passes off target)

but he does have to do with the santa ana's....which ofcourse is the same santa anas that causes akers to miss fgs according to lkp lmao.
 
Forbes knows way more than LKP...no one said anything about cap hit you fucking douche. I said he makes more money than Peyton....and backed it up by Forbes article. LKP always wrong about everything.

Dumbass. Whoever gets the signing bonuses that year is the highest paid. It changes to whoever has the new contract

And cap hit is the only thing that fucking matters. The whole point is you all think we don't have the proper percentage of space because of the stafford deal. You are dead wrong. And stafford is not paid like an elite qb. I proved that too.
 
Golden Tate could be a #1 on a lot of teams (was for Seattle last year). Where's our Doug Baldwin? Where's our Marques Colston? Why can't the Lions uncover gems like seemingly every other franchise can?

Doug Baldwin is a gem now? Holy fuck...lol. You just lumped together Doug Baldwin's and Colston's name together I see ....fuck ya lol.

Isn't Bell a gem?
 
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