Gholston update

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

Who's condoning what Gholston did? No one, although Lewan did face mask him before the punch, it was still wrong to punch him and cost us 15 yards. The head twist? Wrong too and also cost us 15 yards and kept a drive alive, but that stuff happens in the pile.

Gholston will probably get 1 game, same as Mouton got. BTW, Michigan wasn't going to suspend Mouton, the BIG 10 had to hand it down. I think Gholston should sit the Wisconsin game. It will hurt us, but we have some depth at DE. You can't do that type of stuff.

What is hilarious to us Spartans is how much we are in your fan heads. You guys areaabsolutely consumed with a team who you claim isn't even your biggest rival. Why is this thread in the U of M section and not the MSU section? What I think is that although the OSU game is a bigger rivalry for you folks, losing to State hurts worse because you feel you should beat them every year. Not to mention there are a lot more family rivalries like mine where half the people went to U of M and then half the people went to MSU. Lose to OSU and there is no one in your everyday life who will say anything about it, lose to MSU and you're surrounded by Spartans crowing about the win. And let'sface it even the OSU fans I know in Michigan keep a pretty low profile and are gracious after victories being so out numbered and away from home.

Only about 5% of U of M fans have shown an ounce of class after this loss. As in good game, you guys were better. The other 95% are having whiny meltdowns and want to focus on fluff like a few rough plays rather than the fact that a better team beat them. It's the definition of a sore loser and a classless way to handle a loss. That being said, I'm going to rub your noses in it for 365 days because although I have a lot of respect for U of M football I think they have some of the most arrogant fans in all of sports.

Who's saying MSU wasn't better? If anything, the penalties helped to keep Michigan in the game. More importantly, I should address your 1st point. You seem to think nobody is condoning what Gholston did, what about your D-coordinator? Nobody would whine about a little bit of this stuff. We all know it happens. But under MSU's current leadership, it happens a lot. It's not the players, it's the coaches. Check out the Wall Street Journal numbers: http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576639093283303646.html?mod=ITP_personaljournal_3&mg=reno-secaucus-wsj

Most telling number?

Michigan-Michigan St. 4.0 Biggest Offender - Michigan St 80%

Highest percentage on the chart.

 

[hungry]

I'd be suprised and dissapointed if he doesn't get a 1-game suspension for the WIsky game. Gholston seems to be a good kid who plays with a ton of emotion, I had never seen him act way before last Saturday. A scolding from the coaching staff and a 1 game suspension should teach him that kind of behavior isn't acceptable. Enough of this labeling MSU as a thug team that took all sorts of cheap shots at Michigan, it's making you guys look silly and desperate. Watch the game again, all the late hits were wrap up tackles on Denard, it's not like they were spearing the kid. I'll take those kind of late hits here and there to throw off/rattle a qb every game if we need to. Even Gholston after that helmet incident immediately apologized to Denard and proceded to help him get up from the pile for the rest of the game. Mistakes happen, Gholston will be punished, end of story. Stop trying to tarnish a good hard fought victory by blaming a whole team for the actions (completely uncharacteristic at that) of a single player on the team.

So you're cool with the idea that your DE, Marcus Rush, slammed Denard much after the play putting him out of the game, a game where there was about 2 minutes to go and MIchigan was losing by 2tds and then got high-fived by his brahs? That was almost as bad as the play years ago on Jim McMahon.

That was not a play where MSU needed to rattle the QB.

Discussing current events does not tarnish anything. Its already been said multiple times by multiple posters that MSU was the better team on saturday and outplayed Michigan. There's no need for everyone to repeat that in every post they make.

How do you know that Ghoulston apologized? That sounds like a load of shit

"Oh sorry for trying to break your neck there"

yeah right

 

[hungry]

Shouldn't MSU fans be 'over' their 'beatdown' of MIchigan and moving on to their next game?

 

[wolverine304]

You keep thinking we are whining about the lost. Well they aren't. They're talking about the dirty plays. People have told you this before, I don't know why you can't understand. Maybe you do understand and you're just trying to annoy us, like a little bro would do.


And we have a bye week, then purdue. Not a whole lot to talk about. We talked about the notre game the week after too

 

[redandguilty]

Who's saying MSU wasn't better? If anything, the penalties helped to keep Michigan in the game. More importantly, I should address your 1st point. You seem to think nobody is condoning what Gholston did, what about your D-coordinator? Nobody would whine about a little bit of this stuff. We all know it happens. But under MSU's current leadership, it happens a lot. It's not the players, it's the coaches. Check out the Wall Street Journal numbers: http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576639093283303646.html?mod=ITP_personaljournal_3&mg=reno-secaucus-wsj

Most telling number?

Michigan-Michigan St. 4.0 Biggest Offender - Michigan St 80%

Highest percentage on the chart.

That means MSU is a 3.2 (2nd highest behind UNC) all by themselves and Michigan is the lowest of all schools (I've run the numbers) at 0.8. Also significant (as pointed out by someone else), the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry does not even make the list.

 

[hungry]

You keep thinking we are whining about the lost. Well they aren't. They're talking about the dirty plays. People have told you this before, I don't know why you can't understand. Maybe you do understand and you're just trying to annoy us, like a little bro would do.


And we have a bye week, then purdue. Not a whole lot to talk about. We talked about the notre game the week after too

No, shit. What are they even doing here whining about what we're talking about?

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

Most telling number?

Michigan-Michigan St. 4.0 Biggest Offender - Michigan St 80%

Highest percentage on the chart.

That means MSU is a 3.2 (2nd highest behind UNC) all by themselves and Michigan is the lowest of all schools (I've run the numbers) at 0.8. Also significant (as pointed out by someone else), the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry does not even make the list.

I was glad to see it wasn't on the list. Just confirms that that rivalry is between two teams that respect each other.

 

[redandguilty]

That's the thing, he won't get a scolding from the coach, he'll get a pat on the back. Narduzzi and Dontonio have already come out to defend the player and his actions.

Now you're totally full of shit and sound like an asshole. You honestly think he wasn't screamed at? Those stupid penalties if anything kept the game close. What coach doesn't defend his players in public?

You got beat, accept it, all of this is starting to sound like sour grapes in an attempt to hold onto some superiority if not on the scoreboard then some kind of moral superiority. It sounds pathetic. Is this how the U of M fan base takes losing?

Everyone here accepts it. Why can't you get that? It's not Michigan fans whining. Do a google news search for "dirty football" and MSU stories pop up. That's not our fault.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

That's the thing, he won't get a scolding from the coach, he'll get a pat on the back. Narduzzi and Dontonio have already come out to defend the player and his actions.

Now you're totally full of shit and sound like an asshole. You honestly think he wasn't screamed at? Those stupid penalties if anything kept the game close. What coach doesn't defend his players in public?

You got beat, accept it, all of this is starting to sound like sour grapes in an attempt to hold onto some superiority if not on the scoreboard then some kind of moral superiority. It sounds pathetic. Is this how the U of M fan base takes losing?

You have now reached the pinnacle of total moron.

Yes, he got yelled at for THE PENALTY because it cost 15 yards. He didn't/won't be yelled at for the dirty plays. Do you get it now?????????????

 

[valleroe]

That's the thing, he won't get a scolding from the coach, he'll get a pat on the back. Narduzzi and Dontonio have already come out to defend the player and his actions.

actually he got a scolding in game, it was televised... (reread my above post, it added a couple more things)

Also, the play immediately after the helmet incident Gholston and Denard exchanged words and patted eachother on the back (Denard is all class btw). For the rest of the game Gholston could be seen helping Denard up from the pile whenever he was around. Shit happens in the heat of the moment, the kid will get some time off and life will go on. Gholston has shown no previous dirty play tendencies, which leads me to believe he just let his emotions go a bit too much in this big rivalry game and that this was nothing more than an isolated incident.

 

[redandguilty]

That means MSU is a 3.2 (2nd highest behind UNC) all by themselves and Michigan is the lowest of all schools (I've run the numbers) at 0.8. Also significant (as pointed out by someone else), the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry does not even make the list.

I was glad to see it wasn't on the list. Just confirms that that rivalry is between two teams that respect each other.

Yeah, I think it's awesome. It's a part of what makes that rivalry the best in the land. It's also a part of why you don't hear either side whining about respect.

 

[redandguilty]

that this was nothing more than an isolated incident.

Statistics indicate otherwise.

 

[redandguilty]

Alabama-Auburn isn't on that WSJ list either...go figure.

 

[valleroe]

that this was nothing more than an isolated incident.

Statistics indicate otherwise.

Elaborate, I didn't know they tracked "cheap" plays in football statistics. Personal fouls aren't always cheap plays, in fact most of the time they aren't. They are just stupid/self destructive plays (the bane of MSU football) that should be avoided. Btw I was referring to Gholston, the kid has never acted like this before.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Now you're totally full of shit and sound like an asshole. You honestly think he wasn't screamed at? Those stupid penalties if anything kept the game close. What coach doesn't defend his players in public?

You got beat, accept it, all of this is starting to sound like sour grapes in an attempt to hold onto some superiority if not on the scoreboard then some kind of moral superiority. It sounds pathetic. Is this how the U of M fan base takes losing?

You have now reached the pinnacle of total moron.

Yes, he got yelled at for THE PENALTY because it cost 15 yards. He didn't/won't be yelled at for the dirty plays. Do you get it now?????????????

Well, I didn't know you went to the Spartan Football practices every day. You have no idea what he was told in practice this week or even after the game or even on the sidelines. Now I guess U of M fans claim they are psychic and/or have the ability for remote viewing. I've never seen a bigger bunch of whiners and babies in my life.

 

[valleroe]

This needs to be reposted, I spent too much time typing it lol.

I'd be suprised and dissapointed if he doesn't get a 1-game suspension for the WIsky game. Gholston seems to be a good kid who plays with a ton of emotion, I had never seen him act way before last Saturday. A scolding from the coaching staff and a 1 game suspension should teach him that kind of behavior isn't acceptable. Enough of this labeling MSU as a thug team that took all sorts of cheap shots at Michigan, it's making you guys look silly and desperate. Watch the game again, all the late hits were wrap up tackles on Denard, it's not like they were spearing the kid. I'll take those kind of late hits here and there to throw off/rattle a qb every game if we need to. Even Gholston after that helmet incident immediately apologized to Denard and proceded to help him get up from the pile for the rest of the game. Mistakes happen, Gholston will be punished, end of story. Stop trying to tarnish a good hard fought victory by blaming a whole team for the actions (completely uncharacteristic at that) of a single player on the team.

Also, the coaches encourage this type of behavior? Seriously, it's hilarious to me that you believe that Dantonio and Narduzi taught Gholston that twisting a dude's helmet in a pile is acceptable. Both of their interviews were held immediately after the game, there is no way either one of them saw the helmet twist from all the way accross the field. To think that they condone that type of behavior is just ridiculous, seriously i don't know what to tell you. Narduzi's defense plays to intimidate, that's where he was going with his press conference, my coach used to use similiar language back in H.S. Same goes for Dantonio, he was referring to the play he saw, the punch. In a big rivarly game, the big guys up front push/piss eachother off and sometimes they do dumb shit like throwing a punch. Shit happens and Gholston will be punished for it. Once again, do you honestly think Dantonio has the eyes of a hawk (hawkeye) and was able to see the helmet twist that occurred under the pile? seriously stop grasping at straws.

You can complain about one thing, the helmet twist, that's it. Sorry but the rest of your non-sense is simply the salt of the loss being poured into internet rants.

 

[redandguilty]

Statistics indicate otherwise.

Elaborate, I didn't know they tracked "cheap" plays in football statistics. Personal fouls aren't always cheap plays, in fact most of the time they aren't. They are just stupid/self destructive plays that should be avoided. Btw I was referring to Gholston, the kid has never acted like this before.

Did you see that WSJ link? MSU is the 2nd worst offender. But I'm not just talking about Gholston of course. I've said (over and over) that we all get that these sorts of things happen. Looking at just one isolated incident doesn't paint the picture.

 

[GoBlueInAtlanta]

You have now reached the pinnacle of total moron.

Yes, he got yelled at for THE PENALTY because it cost 15 yards. He didn't/won't be yelled at for the dirty plays. Do you get it now?????????????

Well, I didn't know you went to the Spartan Football practices every game. You have no idea what he was told in practice this week or even after the game or even on the sidelines. Now I guess U of M fans claim they are psychic and/or have the ability for remote viewing. I've never seen a bigger bunch of whiners and babies in my life.

You still don't get it????

YOUR COACH SAID IT WASN'T A DIRTY PLAY!!!!! DO YOU HONESTLY THINK HE'S GOING TO YELL AT THE PLAYER????

Now, does yelling get through to you?

 

[TheVictors]

roid rage

 

[redandguilty]

Well, I didn't know you went to the Spartan Football practices every game. You have no idea what he was told in practice this week or even after the game or even on the sidelines. Now I guess U of M fans claim they are psychic and/or have the ability for remote viewing. I've never seen a bigger bunch of whiners and babies in my life.

You still don't get it????

YOUR COACH SAID IT WASN'T A DIRTY PLAY!!!!! DO YOU HONESTLY THINK HE'S GOING TO YELL AT THE PLAYER????

Now, does yelling get through to you?

Yeah, some of these posts fall under the "Can't tell if trolling.." category