Grading Stafford

[tomdalton22]

Yes, those 2 UNFORGETTABLE wild card weekend wins.......one handed to him from Goodell. Otherwise, they would have the same amount of playoff wins.

Yippee!!!!

I'm sure the Dallas fans are over the moon!!!

Stafford still had a good chance to win that game for the Lions and still couldn't get the job done.

0-19 on the road vs. winning teams.

Yippee!!!!

 

[cheeno]

Stafford still had a good chance to win that game for the Lions and still couldn't get the job done.

0-19 on the road vs. winning teams.

Yippee!!!!

And then they carried Scott Linehan and Rod Marinelli off the field on their shoulders.

 

[sggatecl]

 

[mhughes0021]

Honestly. .. who put teddy Bridgewater that high? Lol

 

[Mitchrapp]

Hey Bell Curve used to be a good thing, didn't it?

 

[mhughes0021]

This is what staffs graph would look like

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[sggatecl]

Honestly. .. who put teddy Bridgewater that high? Lol

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-10-types-of-nfl-quarterbacks/?ex_cid=espnFB

 

[Mitchrapp]

Bridgewater, second tier yet Wilson (and Rivers) on the cusp. And why is Kaepernick ahead of Wilson?

 

[mhughes0021]

Hey Bell Curve used to be a good thing, didn't it?

I think you mean cow bell.

 

[Mitchrapp]

This is what staffs graph would look like

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Lol.

 

[sggatecl]

Bridgewater, second tier yet Wilson (and Rivers) on the cusp. And why is Kaepernick ahead of Wilson?

It's less about rankings and more about what company you're in. Also, the stats are from 2006 which skews it a little, for better or worse.

 

[Mitchrapp]

2006? So before Matt and a bunch of others were even drafted? I don't get it..

 

[dubbsco]

Will there be any point in time when we can actually be critical of him?

 

[sggatecl]

2006? So before Matt and a bunch of others were even drafted? I don't get it..

It's QBR by game. So someone that's played since 2006 has a larger sample size than someone drafted in 2008. That's it.

https://michaellopez.shinyapps.io/my_app/

If you go to this link...you can adjust for home/away...pick your QBs...etc.

 

[mhughes0021]

It's QBR by game. So someone that's played since 2006 has a larger sample size than someone drafted in 2008. That's it.

https://michaellopez.shinyapps.io/my_app/

If you go to this link...you can adjust for home/away...pick your QBs...etc.

Oh fun...lets all go see how shitty staff is away. Can we create a tier under bortles and carr?

 

[sggatecl]

Oh fun...lets all go see how shitty staff is away. Can we create a tier under bortles and carr?

Hahaha...Come on now. I laughed pretty hard but you're just going to give the Stafford lovers a heart attack.

 

[Mitchrapp]

2015 will be Matt's year..

 

[inkfreq]

Because a top ten paid QB better win some road games against good teams. That isn't cherry picking because there is nothing that over rides that..You can't come back and say yeah but..

If you want to make the ridiculous argument that a QB is the only reason a team wins or loses on the road, then sure, your point is valid.

But the minute you decide a QB is the primary reason for losses, you have to also admit that a QB is the primary reason for wins, in which case, he's got 11 wins to his credit this season, and only 5 losses.

Now, that's obviously a hugely flawed argument in it's own right. But there are 11 men on each side of the ball, each snap, and to blame one guy at one position is just stupid in my opinion.

Love ya Mitch, but I find that wins/losses argument about as valid as pinning wins and losses on a pitcher in a team sport. I can't count the number of great pitchers who lost 1-0 ballgames. Why? Team sport and one guy can only control so much.

Football? Team sport, and while a QB controls a lot, he only controls so much. Those aren't Stafford losses or wins, they are Lions losses and wins, and every man on the field should are in the blame or glory.

 

[Mitchrapp]

If you want to make the ridiculous argument that a QB is the only reason a team wins or loses on the road, then sure, your point is valid.

But the minute you decide a QB is the primary reason for losses, you have to also admit that a QB is the primary reason for wins, in which case, he's got 11 wins to his credit this season, and only 5 losses.

Now, that's obviously a hugely flawed argument in it's own right. But there are 11 men on each side of the ball, each snap, and to blame one guy at one position is just stupid in my opinion.

Love ya Mitch, but I find that wins/losses argument about as valid as pinning wins and losses on a pitcher in a team sport. I can't count the number of great pitchers who lost 1-0 ballgames. Why? Team sport and one guy can only control so much.

Football? Team sport, and while a QB controls a lot, he only controls so much. Those aren't Stafford losses or wins, they are Lions losses and wins, and every man on the field should are in the blame or glory.

I didn't mean that even if I said that. I should have said he can't play well on the road against good teams. That was the meaning of what I said. But if there's a part A blame and a part B blame, Matt would be tops.

 

[cheeno]

It's QBR by game. So someone that's played since 2006 has a larger sample size than someone drafted in 2008. That's it.

https://michaellopez.shinyapps.io/my_app/

If you go to this link...you can adjust for home/away...pick your QBs...etc.

I played with your link. Matt isn't much worse on the road than he is at home. Truth is he's always an average QB. Click on Matt Stafford and Kyle Orton. I've never seen such a close comparison since I forgot the difference between Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman.