MSU Football recruiting

[johnny2x2x]

it's not hard to improve on what he's got, the bigger question is by how much. the guys coming from the transfer portal from other schools are transferring for a reason and it's not because they're killing it at the prior school. The guys he's offering out of high school don't have a lot of offers better than MSU (mostly MD, RU, Louisville type kids). The 2021 class is ranked 39th, but not counting 2 star kids it's 3-6 commitments smaller than most top 30 teams AND it's just the first class he's had a full year to recruit as head coach following a horrible season. We'll get a chance to see how good of a coach/player developer he is over the next couple seasons, but the jury is still out.

I think the vast majority of the transfers we took are guys the schools they left really really didn't want to see leave. Walker had 13 rushing TDs last season and is a top tier back. Crouch started in the SEC and was one of his team's best defenders, but his coach got fired. Horst was at a small school, but was an Outland Trophy watch list member. Auburn fans loved Joiner and thought their coach misused him. Carr is young and talented, Purdue didn't want to lose him. Kimbrough started some games last year at Florida. Russo just wanted to play on a bigger stage. Drew Jordan was a key player for Duke and a starter. Brown was one of the best athletes on Minny, they hated losing him, but he's young.

VanSumeren is one who was just told by their staff he didn't fit their mold. Crump and Lowery (DBs) are younger and I don't know why they're transferring. So those 3 maybe weren't really wanted.

Honestly, after Walker and maybe Horst or Jordan, the transfer getting the most buzz is the D2 guy Kendal Brooks at safety. He's a potential starter at safety and looks big and really fast.

Walker, Horst, Crouch, Jordan, Brooks, Kimbrough, and maybe Russo are new starters we got form the portal.

The thing is though, some of these guys have 3 and 4 years of eligibility left, so they're seen more as regular recruits who can take some time to develop.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Former Alabama Crimson Tide CB, Ronald Williams is transferring to MSU. Was a JUCO 6-2, 188lbs. Had an arm injury but played 3 games for Bama last year, was repping with the 2s this Spring. Was a 4 star top 10-15 JUCO player in the country and we know that nobody knows DBs like Saban. Potentially a great addition.

 

[gotime909]

I'll gladly take ANY 2nd teamer off Alabama

 

[Spartanmack]

half their scout team could probably start at MSU.

 

[johnny2x2x]

I'll gladly take ANY 2nd teamer off Alabama

Yeah, this just might be the best transfer we've gotten out of the portal. Had an arm injury last year that kept him out so he only played 3 games for them, but basically would have been in their rotation all season if healthy. 4.50 forty at 6-2, 188 lbs.

We'll see how he fits in here, but on paper you'd think he's the day 1 #1 CB starter. And his film as a JUCO is great, great length and ball skills, plays the ball, can turn and run, and is basically a potential NFLer at corner. No doubt Saban and Tucker talked on the phone about him. High character kid too.

If I had to rank the top 5 transfers we brought in I might go
1. Walker RB (Wake Forest)
2. Williams CB (Alabama)
3. Crouch LB (Tenessee)
4. Horst OT (Arkansas State)
5. Jordan DE (Duke)

A high 4 star WR/TE doesn't make the top 5. A 4 star CB (Kimbrough from Florida) doesn't either. And potentially starting QB doesn't make the list either. In fact, 6th might be the D2 safety Brooks who is turning heads.

 

[Spartanmack]

i wonder how tight he is with Brandon Turnage - another Alabama CB that entered the portal a few days ago. 2 Alabama rejects would be the best secondary we've had since Darquez's senior year, maybe better.

 

[johnny2x2x]

i wonder how tight he is with Brandon Turnage - another Alabama CB that entered the portal a few days ago. 2 Alabama rejects would be the best secondary we've had since Darquez's senior year, maybe better.

We added 5 DBs in the portal. I think we're done there. Both Williams (Alabama) and Kimbrough (Florida) were blue chips. Brooks is probably more of a safety. Lowery from Louisville and Crump from Arizona are both guys who could push to start too.

I'd expect our DBs next season will be Gervin, Williams, Grose, Henderson, and Brooks starting. Kimbrough as the dime corner. Dowell could start at S, but I think Snow is pushing now too.

Chris Jackson was the only DB transfer out I would have liked to keep. But I'd rather have 3 of the 5 guys we got over him.

And we brought in 2 new LBs, it's obvious the staff did not like the talent on the back 7. 7 new players who should all be in the rotation there.

We should till take 1 more transfer too. Best player available we can land. Shored up the roster all over.

 

[Spartanmack]

Yeah, this just might be the best transfer we've gotten out of the portal. Had an arm injury last year that kept him out so he only played 3 games for them, but basically would have been in their rotation all season if healthy. 4.50 forty at 6-2, 188 lbs.

We'll see how he fits in here, but on paper you'd think he's the day 1 #1 CB starter. And his film as a JUCO is great, great length and ball skills, plays the ball, can turn and run, and is basically a potential NFLer at corner. No doubt Saban and Tucker talked on the phone about him. High character kid too.

If I had to rank the top 5 transfers we brought in I might go
1. Walker RB (Wake Forest)
2. Williams CB (Alabama)
3. Crouch LB (Tenessee)
4. Horst OT (Arkansas State)
5. Jordan DE (Duke)

A high 4 star WR/TE doesn't make the top 5. A 4 star CB (Kimbrough from Florida) doesn't either. And potentially starting QB doesn't make the list either. In fact, 6th might be the D2 safety Brooks who is turning heads.

not to take anything away from the players on your list but this says more about the problems at QB than it does about any other transfers. Rocky Lombardi could probably start at Temple, so it's tough to get too excited before seeing Russo in action - he still has to win the starting position. I expect to see more progress on the defensive side of the ball this year.

 

[Spartanmack]

We added 5 DBs in the portal. I think we're done there. Both Williams (Alabama) and Kimbrough (Florida) were blue chips. Brooks is probably more of a safety. Lowery from Louisville and Crump from Arizona are both guys who could push to start too.

I'd expect our DBs next season will be Gervin, Williams, Grose, Henderson, and Brooks starting. Kimbrough as the dime corner. Dowell could start at S, but I think Snow is pushing now too.

Chris Jackson was the only DB transfer out I would have liked to keep. But I'd rather have 3 of the 5 guys we got over him.

And we brought in 2 new LBs, it's obvious the staff did not like the talent on the back 7. 7 new players who should all be in the rotation there.

We should till take 1 more transfer too. Best player available we can land. Shored up the roster all over.

I think I read that we had 25 kids leave through the portal. I'm sure we could make room for one more CB, particularly one that was a scholarship player for Alabama. Turnage very likely could be that "best player available" although it's not clear we could land him.

 

[johnny2x2x]

I think I read that we had 25 kids leave through the portal. I'm sure we could make room for one more CB, particularly one that was a scholarship player for Alabama. Turnage very likely could be that "best player available" although it's not clear we could land him.

Now hearing we are done. We brought in 32 players and that?s the limit. Stefan Johnson, even though we pulled his scholarship counts.

 

[johnny2x2x]

MSU has apparently flipped former Boise State QB commit Katin Houser.

Plan A was AJ Duffy, he picked FSU. Houser and Nico Marrichol (WVU commit) were the #2 guys on our board. Denegal committed to Michigan yesterday, he was not really on our board, if Houser had said no we liked Luther Richeson next who cancelled his visit to MSU this weekend as the staff told them we took Houser.

Houser is 247's #16 QB and a 4 star, but he is rising and is an Elite 11 finalist and was just named alpha dog at the LA Elite 11 regional, he was the best QB there. Elite arm and accuracy, can make all the throws and can run a little.

https://scorebooklive.com/californi...rs-from-sundays-elite11-los-angeles-regional/

BEST PLAYERS: IT STARTS WITH KATIN HOUSER
The best overall quarterback at the event was 2022 St. John Bosco quarterback Katin Houser. He throws the ball with great zip and he?s very accurate. Houser, a Boise State commit, performed so well he earned an invite to the Elite11 finals. He?s one of only 16 quarterbacks nationally to secure an invite so far. Last season at St. John Bosco, Houser split time with sophomore Pierce Clarkson (more on him later) and completed 34 of 50 passes for 592 yards and seven TDs.

Houser and the Texas QB commit were the ones to get Elite 11 finals invites out of the group in LA which included Jayden Denegal, Nate Johnson, and a whole bunch of other Power 5 QB commits. But it was Hauser who was the clear best QB at the event.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

MSU has apparently flipped former Boise State QB commit Katin Houser.

Plan A was AJ Duffy, he picked FSU. Houser and Nico Marrichol (WVU commit) were the #2 guys on our board. Denegal committed to Michigan yesterday, he was not really on our board, if Houser had said no we liked Luther Richeson next who cancelled his visit to MSU this weekend as the staff told them we took Houser.

Houser is 247's #16 QB and a 4 star, but he is rising and is an Elite 11 finalist and was just named alpha dog at the LA Elite 11 regional, he was the best QB there. Elite arm and accuracy, can make all the throws and can run a little.

https://scorebooklive.com/californi...rs-from-sundays-elite11-los-angeles-regional/

BEST PLAYERS: IT STARTS WITH KATIN HOUSER
The best overall quarterback at the event was 2022 St. John Bosco quarterback Katin Houser. He throws the ball with great zip and he?s very accurate. Houser, a Boise State commit, performed so well he earned an invite to the Elite11 finals. He?s one of only 16 quarterbacks nationally to secure an invite so far. Last season at St. John Bosco, Houser split time with sophomore Pierce Clarkson (more on him later) and completed 34 of 50 passes for 592 yards and seven TDs.

Houser and the Texas QB commit were the ones to get Elite 11 finals invites out of the group in LA which included Jayden Denegal, Nate Johnson, and a whole bunch of other Power 5 QB commits. But it was Hauser who was the clear best QB at the event.

All good shit. Hope he actually becomes a Spartan.

 

[johnny2x2x]

All good shit. Hope he actually becomes a Spartan.

He?s already committed to MSU, told the coaches. He?s publicly de committed from BSU tonight. It?s a done deal. He is a really high character kid, he handled this with all class. It will be a public commitment this weekend.

He?s competing in the Elite 11 finals next week.

This is a huge get. He?s been the best QB by far at two camps in a row. If he lights it up next week competing against the best of the best he?s going to shoot up the rankings. Duffy was obviously plan A, but even before he committed to FSU there were people who liked Houser better.

 

[johnny2x2x]

So, yeah. The big news is really really big if true. It seems like Michigan State has added Thomas Wilcher to the staff in some capacity. Yes, that Wilcher, legendary Detroit Cass Tech head coach and former U of M running back. Would absolutely be a massive hire and would really shake things up for us in terms of recruiting SE Michigan.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Katin Houser is a Spartan. Sources say the staff told Nico Machioll he had to wait until Houser said no, they liked Houser a lot more. Marchioll committed to WVU. He?s a late riser and already a 4 star on 247, but he has a chance to make a huge leap at the Elite 11 finals next week. He was utterly dominant at his last 2 QB camps. Best arm and quickest release of a QB we?ve brought in in a long time. Extremely accurate and plays for a top 3 high school program in the country.

AJ Duffy was our plan A, this was our plan 1A, I expect him to outperform Duffy at the Elite 11 next week.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Look for OT Ryan Baer to join the class soon, he's the highest ranked composite 3 star on 247, 6-7, 330 lbs. MSU is on a couple of blue chips, 4 star IMG RB Kaytron Allen is down to Penn State and MSU, he's the #123 player in the class. Texas commit, Armani Winfield is the #122 player in the class and he just visited MSU and now is going to decommit from Texas. I wouldn't say we're favored for either, but we have a fighting chance with both.

 

[Spartanmack]

Katin Houser is a Spartan. Sources say the staff told Nico Machioll he had to wait until Houser said no, they liked Houser a lot more. Marchioll committed to WVU. He?s a late riser and already a 4 star on 247, but he has a chance to make a huge leap at the Elite 11 finals next week. He was utterly dominant at his last 2 QB camps. Best arm and quickest release of a QB we?ve brought in in a long time. Extremely accurate and plays for a top 3 high school program in the country.

AJ Duffy was our plan A, this was our plan 1A, I expect him to outperform Duffy at the Elite 11 next week.

Just watched his film on Rivals - he throws a really nice deep ball. He's going to be pretty disappointed when he finds out we have a bunch of possession receivers w/ no one who has the speed to take the top off the defense - or that he won?t have a pocket for long enough to get the deep ball off.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Just watched his film on Rivals - he throws a really nice deep ball. He's going to be pretty disappointed when he finds out we have a bunch of possession receivers w/ no one who has the speed to take the top off the defense - or that he won?t have a pocket for long enough to get the deep ball off.

He's been at the Elite 11 this week. Last night he put on a show at the pro Day tying for 1st with 48 out of 50 points in the throwing drills. The next guy on MSU's list if Houser had stuck with Boise State, Luther Richeson, beat him in a throw off to win the night's event. They base the final Elite 11 standings on 50% this camp, 50% junior film, Houser plays on CA Don Bosco, the #3 team in the country, his junior film is nice, but there's not a ton of it because he started a lot of blowouts and split time with the kid behind him who is also an elite QB. So he put on a clinic last night, but don't expect him to be near the top of the final rankings.

He probably has the quickest release in the country, arm strength is top half of the guys throwing this week, accuracy is as good as anyone.

As far as his weapons. MSU has some weapons now, and the O Line will improve under Kap, he's the best in the business.

Of the top 5 kids last night, Richeson is unsigned and only has 1 Power 5 offer (MSU), 3 of the other guys, (Houser, Allar, and Ewers) are heading to the Big Ten. Another Big Ten team would be smart to try to land Richeson, but he might end up at Cincinnati. Houser has better arm talent than anyone we've brought in in a long time. As accurate as Kirk Cousins, but a quikcer release and a stronger arm. Also has a 4.1 GPA.

 

[johnny2x2x]

https://247sports.com/LongFormArtic...n-football-recruiting-quarterbacks-167335986/

NO. 7 KATIN HOUSER, MICHIGAN STATE COMMIT
Katin Houser
Katin Houser (Photo: Andrew Ivins, 247Sports)
247Sports Composite Ranking: Three-star, 0.8884, No. 27 QB.

High School: Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco.

Height, Weight: 6-foot-3, 200 pounds.

Thoughts through three days: Howard had a multiple touchdown game in his game of 7v7 play in the jamboree and also had a top 11 performance in the target challenge. The Michigan State verbal finished in a tie for 9th despite having to wait until later in the session to throw, like he did during his pro day.

 

[johnny2x2x]

Houser will be getting a significant bump in the rankings.