My way too early yardage prediction thread

[tomdalton22]

that is not a catchable ball so it's not counted as a drop.

if the ball is thrown a little behind the WR and he gets both hands on it they call it a drop. The point is some balls are more catchable than others. Stafford doesn't make life easy for his WRs and RBs the way he throws the ball (location and velocity)

 

[LKP]

if the ball is thrown a little behind the WR and he gets both hands on it they call it a drop. The point is some balls are more catchable than others. Stafford doesn't make life easy for his WRs and RBs the way he throws the ball (location and velocity)

That is not counted as a catchable ball or counted as drop for the WR. I know you want to make up things to bash Stafford, but it has to be catchable to count as drop. The situation you described is not tallied as a catchable ball.

Burleson, Titus Young, Calvin with healthy fingers, Bell never had a problem with Staffords throws

Durham, Bush, Pettigrew and broken finger Calvin have a problem. This has always been an issue for Bush and Pettigrew. Calvin just this season (injury) and Durham sucks.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Minus the uncatchable one's that are caught. Staff and his 58% are right where they should be..

 

[boogerlovejoy]

if the ball is thrown a little behind the WR and he gets both hands on it they call it a drop. The point is some balls are more catchable than others. Stafford doesn't make life easy for his WRs and RBs the way he throws the ball (location and velocity)

I don't think that's the case. Most sites only count drops as balls dropped that the WR CLEARLY should have caught.

A ball thrown behind a WR, even if he gets his hands on it, would not be counted as a drop.

It's all subjective.....but MOST sites would not count your example as a drop.

 

[LKP]

Minus the uncatchable one's that are caught. Staff and his 58% are right where they should be..

Drops and lack of separation far outweigh the saves by wrs

 

[brewer229]

Dropped Passes: 2013 NFL Season
This statistic counts the number of times an intended receiver touches the ball but fails to catch it. If the ball is thrown but the receiver never gets his hands on it, it is not recorded as a drop. Lots of players put up big yardage but also drop a lot of passes, elite receivers put up the numbers and maintain a low drop percentage.


http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

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[LKP]

Dropped Passes: 2013 NFL Season
This statistic counts the number of times an intended receiver touches the ball but fails to catch it. If the ball is thrown but the receiver never gets his hands on it, it is not recorded as a drop. Lots of players put up big yardage but also drop a lot of passes, elite receivers put up the numbers and maintain a low drop percentage.


http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/drops/2013/

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Consistently throwing into tight coverage. Still the wrs fault other than calvin

 

[lgolfer]

Consistently throwing into tight coverage. Still the wrs fault other than calvin

Stafford can do no wrong, ever

 

[Mitchrapp]

Consistently throwing into tight coverage. Still the wrs fault other than calvin

I'm curious how that is the receivers fault..? I'm also curious how a tight throw into Calvin is Staff's fault but the other times, example Durham it's their fault. Lastly, you're full of shit.

 

[tomdalton22]

I'm curious how that is the receivers fault..? I'm also curious how a tight throw into Calvin is Staff's fault but the other times, example Durham it's their fault. Lastly, you're full of shit.

lol at the last sentence. (using google chrome now and ctrl b doesn't bold like IE used to...WTF??)

 

[LKP]

I'm curious how that is the receivers fault..? I'm also curious how a tight throw into Calvin is Staff's fault but the other times, example Durham it's their fault. Lastly, you're full of shit.

Calvin is always doubled. The other WRS don't get open. Stafford has to throw to Calvin.

And I'm not full of shit. I'm the only one who charts the throws.

 

[brewer229]

Consistently throwing into tight coverage. Still the wrs fault other than calvin

Now you are reaching. I give you facts and stats, you give me baseless opinion.

Here are some more. We will call this poor throw stat. This is the percentage of throws overthrown, underthrown or thrown wide as measured by SI. Compared Staff, Romo (guy most people on this board thinks is worse than stafford, and Manning a true elite QB.

Stafford: 17.82%
Romo: 15.70%
Manning: 13.96%

 

[LKP]

Now you are reaching. I give you facts and stats, you give me baseless opinion.

Here are some more. We will call this poor throw stat. This is the percentage of throws overthrown, underthrown or thrown wide as measured by SI. Compared Staff, Romo (guy most people on this board thinks is worse than stafford, and Manning a true elite QB.

Stafford: 17.82%
Romo: 15.70%
Manning: 13.96%

Baseless opinon from SI. That is not a stat. That is their opinion. SI doesn't understand how poor the separation was from receivers.

 

[LKP]

With Calvin, Tate and Ebron. 65% for Stafford this season. At least

 

[LKP]

Now you are reaching. I give you facts and stats, you give me baseless opinion.

Here are some more. We will call this poor throw stat. This is the percentage of throws overthrown, underthrown or thrown wide as measured by SI. Compared Staff, Romo (guy most people on this board thinks is worse than stafford, and Manning a true elite QB.

Stafford: 17.82%
Romo: 15.70%
Manning: 13.96%

Also. Provide a link

 

[tomdalton22]

With Calvin, Tate and Ebron. 65% for Stafford this season. At least

Baseless opinion from LKP

 

[LKP]

Baseless opinion from LKP

Great prediction more like it.

 

[brewer229]

Also. Provide a link

Seriously. Coming from you? The guy that uses more "stats" that can't be validated or is strictly personal opinion.

However I'm feeling nice today, so below are Staffords. From there you should be able to figure out how to find the others.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/9265/passing_splits.html?mobile=no

 

[kdp80]

2000 yards out of tate and ebron would be amazing....a miracle really....and that's not based on their talent...its based on staffords ability to get anything out of 2nd and 3rd receiving options other than a dump down to bush.

That's funny, wasn't Burleson leading the Lions in receptions and receiving yards when he got injured last year? Maybe it's time for you to take a step back and realize just how shitty the Lions receiving corps was outside of CJ and Burleson.

 

[LKP]

Seriously. Coming from you? The guy that uses more "stats" that can't be validated or is strictly personal opinion.

However I'm feeling nice today, so below are Staffords. From there you should be able to figure out how to find the others.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/9265/passing_splits.html?mobile=no

LOL you just proved me right. Look at all those drops and receiver issues causing incompletion. Stafford was truly 63% or better. Plus you have press coverage, I'm sure you don't understand how an overthrow could happen from that and just lack of separation.

29 TDs (6th), 3rd down % (6th), yards per game (3rd) and Int/attempt (1.8%) were it was Staffords fault. Stafford is a very good QB and we are lucky to have him on the team. And now with the proper weapons and coaching he can go from good to elite.

Wide and overthrown can be for various reasons. Separation so Stafford trying to throw him open. Press coverage causing the WR to be late and an overthrow. But thanks for proving me right with all those other categories.

My eyes never lie. I have game tape as my back up and now I have your stats that prove me right.