My way too early yardage prediction thread

[brewer229]

You don't even call that play with LeShoure. Stafford did a good job on the play is all that matters so he gets credit. He knows how to make use of his weapons. Like I said, more than one person gets credit.

Drops,tips, poor separatoin but a good throw by Stafford is all Stafford doing his job.

Does Wilson have all those TDs if his defense didn't get 39 turnovers. The answer is no given Wilson's attempts.

So the play is called based on player on the field, which means their skill is the main reason you call the play and is the more determining reason for its success. I don't recall the play being an audible, if it was that is a good call by stafford. I'll have to rewatch the play later.

I never said he was the only reason for the lions failures. You need to get out of the mindset that any criticism = 100% blame.

 

[LKP]

So the play is called based on player on the field, which means their skill is the main reason you call the play and is the more determining reason for its success. I don't recall the play being an audible, if it was that is a good call by stafford. I'll have to rewatch the play later.

I never said he was the only reason for the lions failures. You need to get out of the mindset that any criticism = 100% blame.

Stafford is the lowest reason for Lions failures other than Calvin and Warford and Suh. Stafford is a big reason they win 7 and are damn close in 9 losses.

 

[brewer229]

Stafford is the lowest reason for Lions failures other than Calvin and Warford and Suh. Stafford is a big reason they win 7 and are damn close in 9 losses.

Depends on the way you view them. If you expect Durham to be as good as Calvin or Stafford, than I can see why you blame him more. But I thought Durham played as good as his skill level allows him to, I can't put the loss at his feet, he did as well as he can. I thought Stafford played the farthest below what he is capable of, that is why I blame him more.

That is the "tough" part of having skill you are held to a higher standard and expected to do more.

 

[dubbsco]

I don't think the argument is about Stafford's talent. Guy has talent. The problem is that he has not put it together the way he should have. He SHOULD be a top 5 QB. But he's not. He needs a ton of work on the mental game.

 

[LKP]

14 Ryan's fault. 9 newtons fault. Both int to attempts percentage is worse than stafford. Cutler and casell as well. Rodgers only one better so far

 

[evolutionkb]

The kid is only 26, it's dumb to call him anything yet.

 

[dubbsco]

Evolution, if we can't make a judgment on someone going into their 6th year, when can we? He's not a rookie anymore man.

 

[mhughes0021]

Stafford is the lowest reason for Lions failures other than Calvin and Warford and Suh. Stafford is a big reason they win 7 and are damn close in 9 losses.

they've gone all in on offense and neglected the defense the entire offseason (except for a rd2 draft pick) therefor, Stafford will be the reason we win 2 games....or we win 11 games.

 

[mhughes0021]

Depends on the way you view them. If you expect Durham to be as good as Calvin or Stafford, than I can see why you blame him more. But I thought Durham played as good as his skill level allows him to, I can't put the loss at his feet, he did as well as he can. I thought Stafford played the farthest below what he is capable of, that is why I blame him more.

That is the "tough" part of having skill you are held to a higher standard and expected to do more.

esp when that skilled player was the #1 overall pick and making 80 mil.

 

[tonyballs]

1]they've gone all in on offense and neglected the defense the entire offseason (except for a rd2 draft pick) therefor, Stafford will be the reason we win 2 games....or we win 11 games.[/QUOTE]

Delmas gone and Willie Young gone are upgrades. Brought in a few players which 2-3 will probably start. You're delusional to think the defense was neglected. Of course you think that because they never went after the players YOU wanted...lol.

 

[mhughes0021]

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van noy is the only upgrade over last year. Ihedigbo is the only other new starter....and him and delmas are both mediocre at best. Like I said....they neglected the defense....

 

[LKP]

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van noy is the only upgrade over last year. Ihedigbo is the only other new starter....and him and delmas are both mediocre at best. Like I said....they neglected the defense....[/QUOTE]

The defense is already set. They didn't need major changes. Ihedigbo and Van Noy completes the awesomeness. Jones returns for DE. Based on Houston' overall Lion history and Slays talent, you give those guys another chance with Mathis in your back pocket.

 

[dubbsco]

What awesomeness? Being mediocre and continuing to get burned through the air? Come on man, stop drinking the Kool-Aid. This defense is not awesome. They are below average. And we need to get Stafford more weapons...

 

[LKP]

What awesomeness? Being mediocre and continuing to get burned through the air? Come on man, stop drinking the Kool-Aid. This defense is not awesome. They are below average. And we need to get Stafford more weapons...

Best 3rd down %, good redzone D, top 5 pressure, very good run defense for most of the season and average pass defense with an injured number 1 CB and a rookie.

No sweeping changes were needed.

 

[mhughes0021]

Best 3rd down %, good redzone D, top 5 pressure, very good run defense for most of the season and average pass defense with an injured number 1 CB and a rookie.

No sweeping changes were needed.

Thats what I said...they neglected to upgrade the defense.

 

[tomdalton22]

Best 3rd down %, good redzone D, top 5 pressure, very good run defense for most of the season and average pass defense with an injured number 1 CB and a rookie.

No sweeping changes were needed.

lower end in turnovers and sacks...the two game changing plays that a defense can have. Also gave up a shit ton of huge plays. The Lions defense was / is average at best.

 

[dubbsco]

Yeah to call it awesome is just a joke.

 

[tomdalton22]

Yeah to call it awesome is just a joke.

consider the source.

 

[mhughes0021]

So good at defense we lost more games than we won.

 

[tomdalton22]

So good at defense we lost more games than we won.

Super Bowl roster. Stafford made more game winning plays than mistakes. Stafford deserved to be 16-0. Only 12 INTs were Stafford's fault.