My way too early yardage prediction thread

[Mitchrapp]

Excuse, after excuse, after excuse. Enough. Teams deal with adversity, bad luck, fluke plays all year. But believe it or not, they play through those things. The Lions don't, they wilt. You can throw all the excuses and stats to talk about how amazing this team can be, but the bottom line is they have NO clue how to win. Whether it be getting a big lead and blowing it, or making huge mistakes, there is no killer instinct on this team.

Green Bay played without Rodgers for damn near the entire year, and STILL found a way to win this division. That's because they are a winning organization. They know how to make things work, they can figure out how to adjust their team to win. Lions don't have a clue. Maybe when I'm 50 they'll figure it out, the Kool-Aid drinkers will continue to make excuses and talk about potential. And after all this time, after all the Draft Super Bowls, they haven't done crap. Stop covering up for this franchise.

I said that once "maybe when I'm 50". I'm 48 and running out of time..

 

[dubbsco]

Well, I got 22 years left until 50, so maybe they'll win a playoff game by then.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Well, I got 22 years left until 50, so maybe they'll win a playoff game by then.

At least I got to see one of them followed immediately by a beat down of biblical proportions.

 

[tonyballs]

You can't compare Rodgers to any single player on the Lions. He is heads and shoulders more important to GB than any Lion. He is so much better than any player on the Lions they shouldn't even be compared.

You can't compare him to Calvin Johnson then? Smoke another one...

 

[LKP]

You can't compare him to Calvin Johnson then? Smoke another one...

Calvin missed our only 2 division losses on the season. That is huge. Lions win in Lambeau they win the division at 8-8. Lions D held Rodgers to one TD and 5 FGs (22). Rodgers played. That game is winnable if Calvin plays plus Burleson and Waddle were out (other weapon and run game).

I'd say the Lions could win both those division games with Calvin. I'd also say if they weren't so injured second half against Pittsburgh, all day against the Giants and at Eagles in snow, they could win those three. That's 12 wins keeping up with a GB Rodgers (Rodgers went 6-3 in the games he played in 2013 including playoffs not including Bears home game).

And then you have the kicking fiascos at Arizona (6 points in 5 point loss) and Bengals (missed FG, led to Bengals TD and a shanked punt for 3 Bengals punt in a 3 point loss).

 

[dubbsco]

Hell, they should have gone 16 and 0.

 

[LKP]

Hell, they should have gone 16 and 0.

Have the talent for it. But they blew the Bucs game despite health in that game. The Calvin pick was crazy though and Houstons toe injury allowed a big TD. Ravens game was even but Ravens got the miracle FG and the lack of call on the arm bar.

We'll say 14-2.

 

[dubbsco]

If you think this team has the talent to go 16 and 0, I'm really not sure we have much else to discuss my friend.

 

[LKP]

If you think this team has the talent to go 16 and 0, I'm really not sure we have much else to discuss my friend.

They have 13-3, 14-2 talent but most likely in the 10-12 range. Other teams have a good amount of talent too, especially in NFC.

 

[tomdalton22]

You can't compare him to Calvin Johnson then? Smoke another one...

nope. A WR has limited impact when compared to a QB. CJ is one of the best WRs in the game but you can't compare the impact of a WR to that of an MVP caliber QB....it isn't even close.

 

[Mitchrapp]

You can't compare him to Calvin Johnson then? Smoke another one...

Not with another WR but Rodgers or Calvin, and even more important Rodgers missed games vs Calvin's missed games..it's different.

 

[LKP]

Not with another WR but Rodgers or Calvin, and even more important Rodgers missed games vs Calvin's missed games..it's different.

Rodges still loses on Thanksgiving to Detroit (just not by 30), still loses to Pittsburgh (they scored plenty), still loses one to the Bears (both were close and Bears had plenty of injuries), still could lose to the Eagles and high flying Chip Kelly offense and still loses to the Giants (they have his number). I'll say they beat Vikings instead of tie. But if Calvin plays Week 5, Lions can win that one. So 8-8 Packers and 8-8 Lions. Lions still win division on sweep of Bears and Packers.

 

[tomdalton22]

Rodges still loses on Thanksgiving to Detroit (just not by 30), still loses to Pittsburgh (they scored plenty), still loses one to the Bears (both were close and Bears had plenty of injuries), still could lose to the Eagles and high flying Chip Kelly offense and still loses to the Giants (they have his number). I'll say they beat Vikings instead of tie. But if Calvin plays Week 5, Lions can win that one. So 8-8 Packers and 8-8 Lions. Lions still win division on sweep of Bears and Packers.

With Rodgers playing they most likely beat the Bears, Eagles, MN, NYG & Steelers. 50/50 chance to beat the Lions on Thanksgiving with him playing. Their likely record with Rodgers would have been 12-4

 

[tonyballs]

nope. A WR has limited impact when compared to a QB. CJ is one of the best WRs in the game but you can't compare the impact of a WR to that of an MVP caliber QB....it isn't even close.

Absolute bullshit! You seen this team when CJ is out. We're a trainwreck. I know the difference between the 2 positions but losing Rodgers and losing Calvin are practically one and the same. Gameplans change ?360 with both players out. And that MVP shit don't fly because WRs don't win MVPs ....usually.

 

[tonyballs]

Not with another WR but Rodgers or Calvin, and even more important Rodgers missed games vs Calvin's missed games..it's different.

And both offenses looked lost with Rodgers and CJ out...

 

[LKP]

With Rodgers playing they most likely beat the Bears, Eagles, MN, NYG & Steelers. 50/50 chance to beat the Lions on Thanksgiving with him playing. Their likely record with Rodgers would have been 12-4

Nope. They only beat Vikings. Their d was a joke

 

[mhughes0021]

And both offenses looked lost with Rodgers and CJ out...

gb had jordy, james jones and cobb out at wr....while having one of the best qbs in the league out and their best defensive player out. They still won he division....theres no comparing our injuries (a calvin Johnson sore pinky) to GBs last year. We had our healthy number one overall pick qb leading the way all year....to 7 wins and a shitty 2nd half of the season. nice job Stafford.

 

[LKP]

gb had jordy, james jones and cobb out at wr....while having one of the best qbs in the league out and their best defensive player out. They still wont he division....theres no comparing our injuries (a calvin Johnson sore pinky) to GBs last year. We had out healthy number one overall pick qb leading the way all year....to 7 wins and a shitty 2nd half of the season. nice job Stafford.

Jordy was not out and jones was 2 games. They played shit pass defenses when they were out too. There is comparing in the lions 7 losses especially at pit, giants and at Minnesota injuries. Week 5 Green Bay was much healthier than Detroit

 

[tonyballs]

gb had jordy, james jones and cobb out at wr....while having one of the best qbs in the league out and their best defensive player out. They still wont he division....theres no comparing our injuries (a calvin Johnson sore pinky) to GBs last year. We had out healthy number one overall pick qb leading the way all year....to 7 wins and a shitty 2nd half of the season. nice job Stafford.

Your reading comprehension is that of a 4 year old. Holy fuck!!

I'm not comparing the season and other players. I don't give a flying fuck lol. I'm comparing Rodgers and CJ. Losing those 2 players for said amount of time wether it be long or short is disastrous for either team. Nobody can say losing one or the other is more damaging. They're both mega superstars.

Fn FOCUS.

 

[tonyballs]

gb had jordy, james jones and cobb out at wr....while having one of the best qbs in the league out and their best defensive player out. They still won he division....theres no comparing our injuries (a calvin Johnson sore pinky) to GBs last year. We had our healthy number one overall pick qb leading the way all year....to 7 wins and a shitty 2nd half of the season. nice job Stafford.

And putting it all on Stafford just keeps proving how much of s fn retard you truly are. lol