Next GM and Head Coach

[LKP]

https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2021/1/7/22219441/nfl-top-5-free-agents-2021-kenny-golladay-pff

Golladay 4th best free agent and says lions should tag him

Liins interviwed saleh today too

Looks like you guys were all wrong

 

[tomdalton22]

PFF predictions

Franchise KG (their other guess is Giants sign him to a 4 year $85M contract)
Sign #36 FA Melvin Ingram 3 year $45M

No other FA signings inside the top 50

 

[tomdalton22]

PFF rates Stafford 14th best QB

 

[mhughes0021]

Theres 22 FAs on our team with contracts worth about 47.8 mil. Alot of those guys are going to want more money to stay in this shithole:
Okwara 3.4mil will probably need to get 8-12 mil
Golladay 700k will have a market worth 16 - 20 mil

Jones 8 mil, Harmon 4 mil, Davis 2.7 mil you can probably dump and find cheaper replacements.

WR market will be interesting with Allen Robinson being really the only WR with production this year on the market. Then guys like Godwin, Golladay, Corey Davis, Will Fuller, JuJu all lumped in there as high potential young guys that are coming off injury/suspension. Not sure Golladays gets the 18+ mil hes looking for..but he probably gets like 14-16?

If we dont resign him its going to be tough finding quality starters for Stafford lol...you almost have to pick one of the top WRs at 7 Chase, Smith or Waddle.

LB is going to be a struggle to overhaul. Lavonte David (13mil) and Hassan Reddick (9 mil) are the only names i like but they will have hefty price tags.

Safety i think you need to look to the draft with a guy like Moehrig and supplement with signing some depth. Hope that Walker and Harris get their shit together.

 

[tomdalton22]

LB is going to be a struggle to overhaul. Lavonte David (13mil) and Hassan Reddick (9 mil) are the only names i like but they will have hefty price tags.

don't worry...LKP said they will be able to do it with their great GM, coach and all of that cap space they have. Plus that draft picks and their HOF QB

10-12 win floor

 

[mhughes0021]

don't worry...LKP said they will be able to do it with their great GM, coach and all of that cap space they have. Plus that draft picks and their HOF QB

10-12 win floor

He obviously doesn't get sick of being wrong... I'm starting to wonder if he's a bot.

 

[byco42]

He obviously doesn't get sick of being wrong... I'm starting to wonder if he's a bot.

He does regurgitate a lot of the same content from post to post.

 

[LKP]

Based on my parameters for health and past performance of players, I am never wrong. You guys blindly say they will suck without even seeing the GM/HC. Like I said, you randomly have the Lions at 5-11 because you dislike them, not because a healthy Lions team meeting their potential would have done that. A healthy performing Lions team wins 10-12 games. Things went sideways from unexpected bad play from good players, big time injuries (KG/Flowers is beyond huge) and then Patricia didn't take the next step as a coach once he got the full guys he wanted.

Now this next year can be completely different. There will be major roster turnover again. But they can win 10-12 games any year if things go right as planned. Unless they trade Stafford, then its a full rebuild. Up to the new GM

 

[byco42]

Based on my parameters for health and past performance of players, I am never wrong. You guys blindly say they will suck without even seeing the GM/HC. Like I said, you randomly have the Lions at 5-11 because you dislike them, not because a healthy Lions team meeting their potential would have done that. A healthy performing Lions team wins 10-12 games. Things went sideways from unexpected bad play from good players, big time injuries (KG/Flowers is beyond huge) and then Patricia didn't take the next step as a coach once he got the full guys he wanted.

Now this next year can be completely different. There will be major roster turnover again. But they can win 10-12 games any year if things go right as planned. Unless they trade Stafford, then its a full rebuild. Up to the new GM

Since the 16-game season was initiated in 1978 (43 seasons) the Lions have won 10+ games FIVE TIMES. So the other 38 seasons, they were hampered by injuries? Hampered by "unexpected bad play?" What does that even mean?

The Packers have won 10+ games NINETEEN times since 1989! Because they were healthy, apparently.

 

[LKP]

Since the 16-game season was initiated in 1978 (43 seasons) the Lions have won 10+ games FIVE TIMES. So the other 38 seasons, they were hampered by injuries? Hampered by "unexpected bad play?" What does that even mean?

The Packers have won 10+ games NINETEEN times since 1989! Because they were healthy, apparently.

I don't care about anything before 2010. Yeah those teams probably sucked. 90s made the playoffs 6 times though when I was a fan. Millen years they were just horrible horrible teams with a horrible GM. Mayhew/Quinn they have had good teams, some really good seasons and some seasons where they were injured and underperformed and scewed by refs.

2010 Stafford injury most of year
2011 playoffs 10 wins and injured greatly in secondary facing a HOF Brees. Lions played really well offensively
2012 4-4. 1-3 start due to terrible special teams gaffes, got to 4-4 then a mix of injuries (weapons greatly), weapon caused turnovers and defense that underachieved greatly especially late in games
2013 Same as 2012 but a good 6-3 start instead of 4-4. Then weapon injuries, freak turnovers and defense that let them down late
2014 11-5 great year and screwed by refs against Dallas
2015 Awful start but 6-2 finish. Should have been 7-1 but the Hail Mary bullshit call on the facemask of Rodgers which could have changed the Rams game too. Batted ball fiasco at Seattle stole a win too. Underachieved though and Mayhew got shown the door mid-season
2016 playoff year. Stafford finger injury hurt the final 4 games. Tough road in Seattle but Seattle got away with some calls and some big time drops in that game
2017 should have been 10-6 and playoffs but screwed with 10 second run off and underachieved against Bengals
2018 first year Patricia. Weapon injuries and traded Tate and Stafford back injury for terrible finish
2019 Should have been 6-2 start but screwed by refs for 3-4-1. Then Stafford injury for 0-8 finish
2020 KG/Flowers injuries, blowing 4th Quarter leads early in season. Panthers/Texans severely underachieved to get Patricia fired.

2 years 10+, 2 years 9-7 that should have 10+ if not for refs/injuries, 2018/2019 should have been 10+ but injury and 2020 a big mess with injuries to best players and unexpected regression/blowing double digit leads in first half. They pretty much gave up second half/refs cost us Vikings game. 2012/2015 shocking they underperformed after really good seasons in 2011/2014. 2011, 2014, 2016, 2017 really good seasons. 2010/2019 big Stafford injury years. 2012/2013 underperformed due to injury. 2015 first half underperformed with bad Oline coach/OC and figuring out defensive changes (losing Suh/Fairley etc).

 

[byco42]

I don't care about anything before 2010. Yeah those teams probably sucked. 90s made the playoffs 6 times though when I was a fan. Millen years they were just horrible horrible teams with a horrible GM. Mayhew/Quinn they have had good teams, some really good seasons and some seasons where they were injured and underperformed and scewed by refs.

How many Super Bowls have the Lions ever appeared in?

 

[LKP]

How many Super Bowls have the Lions ever appeared in?

Screwed by refs/injuries out of 3 potential in last 10 years. But a new era is beginning now. Which has nothing to do with the past 10 years. And that new era they can win 10+ and make a SB run. Writing them off already is dumb and shows your true colors.

 

[byco42]

Screwed by refs/injuries out of 3 potential in last 10 years. But a new era is beginning now. Which has nothing to do with the past 10 years. And that new era they can win 10+ and make a SB run. Writing them off already is dumb and shows your true colors.

Shut your mouth on my "true colors". I've been a Lions' fan for 57 years. You have no idea what my "true colors" are in regards to this organization, of which I have minimal faith and cause to believe that it can build a consistent, winning team. It has demonstrated since 1964 that it is incapable of doing this.

Since 1964: 17 seasons with nine+ wins.

The "New Era" team you speak of still is owned by the same family. So, I'll not get too enthusiastic for the time being.

 

[LKP]

Shut your mouth on my "true colors". I've been a Lions' fan for 57 years. You have no idea what my "true colors" are in regards to this organization, of which I have minimal faith and cause to believe that it can build a consistent, winning team. It has demonstrated since 1964 that it is incapable of doing this.

Since 1964: 17 seasons with nine+ wins.

The "New Era" team you speak of still is owned by the same family. So, I'll not get too enthusiastic for the time being.

You just said your true colors. Minimal faith. Due to history. Which is stupid in an ever changing NFL.

Cool don't care that they sucked. Nothing to do with 2021 now. They have the cap space, draft picks to make the changes and some good players still on the roster.

 

[byco42]

You just said your true colors. Minimal faith. Due to history. Which is stupid in an ever changing NFL.

"Ever-changing NFL" he says. (I'm going to third-person this person from now on). To the other readers: 30 SB have been won by five teams. The Lions have never appeared in a Super Bowl. That's flatly and bluntly inexcusable and the result of inept ownership. Even the Chargers, Titans, and Cardinals have stumbled into one.

Cool don't care that they sucked. Nothing to do with 2021 now. They have the cap space, draft picks to make the changes and some good players still on the roster.

This guy thinks that the Lions DRAFT PICKS are going to elevate the team to a 12-win season. Barring injuries, refs, bad play, and whatever additional excuses he can manufacture.

 

[LKP]

"Ever-changing NFL" he says. (I'm going to third-person this person from now on).



To the other readers: 30 SB have been won by five teams. The Lions have never appeared in a Super Bowl. That's flatly and bluntly inexcusable and the result of inept ownership. Even the Chargers, Titans, and Cardinals have stumbled into one.

This guy thinks that the Lions DRAFT PICKS are going to elevate the team to a 12-win season. Barring injuries, refs, bad play, and whatever additional excuses he can manufacture.

Read. Use that little Michigan brain. Draft picks, some current roster players, and FAs with a new GM/HC combo. That's big time changes. Not just solely the draft picks.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Screwed by refs/injuries out of 3 potential in last 10 years. But a new era is beginning now. Which has nothing to do with the past 10 years. And that new era they can win 10+ and make a SB run. Writing them off already is dumb and shows your true colors.

This is what gets you banned. This is nothing but trolling stupidity.

I would be happy to have another off season without your input.

 

[LKP]

This is what gets you banned. This is nothing but trolling stupidity.

I would be happy to have another off season without your input.

How is that trolling. It is stating fact that they can turn it around in a new regime that has nothing to do with the past.

I get you want your little Lions pity party. Ooo that stunk some years. Wah wah wah.

Change teams if you keep bringing up all the losing. Do something about it.

 

[tomdalton22]

Based on my parameters for health and past performance of players, I am never wrong. You guys blindly say they will suck without even seeing the GM/HC. Like I said, you randomly have the Lions at 5-11 because you dislike them, not because a healthy Lions team meeting their potential would have done that. A healthy performing Lions team wins 10-12 games. Things went sideways from unexpected bad play from good players, big time injuries (KG/Flowers is beyond huge) and then Patricia didn't take the next step as a coach once he got the full guys he wanted.

Now this next year can be completely different. There will be major roster turnover again. But they can win 10-12 games any year if things go right as planned. Unless they trade Stafford, then its a full rebuild. Up to the new GM

actually, you are never right. You never take into consideration that players will get hurt (which they always do, not just for the Lions, but for EVERY team). You assume that players will get better (that doesn't always happen, sometimes they get worse). You assume that free agent acquisitions will fit with the team and play at their peak (a pro bowl player from 2013 will get back to that level in 2020) which rarely happens. You assume that draft picks will be good and contribute (again, most fail, on every team)

You are a joke and the laughing stock of this message board. Just like the Lions are a joke and the laughing stock of the NFL.

 

[byco42]

Read. Use that little Michigan brain. Draft picks, some current roster players, and FAs with a new GM/HC combo. That's big time changes. Not just solely the draft picks.

This person has apparently reversed his position on whether or not the Lions can attract FAs. He previously stated that the "shitty" city is a deterrent.

But he has not specifically identified which ones that the Lions need to pursue. Apparently any "FAs" will escalate this team to new heights.

After all, we've seen this work so many times before. No reason whatsoever to think that it can't work again.