Stafford ranked 13th

[tomdalton22]

They won't. 11-5 and playoffs.

But if they do I'm sure it will be injury related.

That is very wishful thinking.

My guess is they finish 2nd or 3rd in the division and win between 7-9 games.

 

[cheeno]

Injuries are facts. Scheme problems are tough to gauge unless players come out and say they didn't know the correct play.

Yeah thinks like luck and flukes are definitely measured empirically. It's the learning curve that a change in scheme brings that is tough to gauge. Better to stick to the facts.

 

[mhughes0021]

7 win talent team that will find a way to win 10 games because the vortex of the sun will be on our side this year.....and ofcourse akers isn't kicking in ari this year so we wont have to worry about that. We will never be a great team cause we don't have a great qb. If you don't have a great qb in this league than you need a great defense.....and we don't have that either.

 

[mhughes0021]

Check out and run is not the best option on 2nd and 3rd and long. Passing underneath is the best way to move down the field. And he does it well. Running the ball more is clearly not the answer. It's like you know nothing about football or down and distance.

And Lions were still 14th in attempts. They ran it plenty. Pay attention hughes. You seem to be clueless.

oh sorry...didn't realize we were in 2nd or 3rd in long all 600 times a year we throw the ball. sounds like a pretty shitty offense.

 

[LKP]

Yeah thinks like luck and flukes are definitely measured empirically. It's the learning curve that a change in scheme brings that is tough to gauge. Better to stick to the facts.

Recovery rates are measured. So you can measure your luck with recovery rates. And flukes are clearly something you can decipher. Rarely occur like that Durham fumble. Play calling in the players heads gets trickier.

 

[grandy]

A blizzard inside Ford Field will cost the Lions the division, I guarantee it.

 

[LKP]

Lions 44 offensive TDs. Defense forced 22 turnovers. 4.0 YPC for Detroit's improved runnin game.

Denver 71 TDs. 4.1 YPC and 26 (+4). Denver was clearly better and had extreme weapon health with Thomas, Decker and Thomas and even Welker most of the year. Oline injuries.

Philly 51 TDs 31 turnovers (+9) and 5.1 YPC. Life pretty easy for Mr. Foles.

Saints 49 TDs 19 turnovers (-3) and 3.8 YPC. Saints offense was better

Cincy 47 TDS 31 turnover (+9) and 3.6 YPC. 9 more turnovers really helped Cincy

Dallas 45 TDS 28 turnover (+6) and 4.5 YPC. More turnovers and better run game for Romo.

Chicago 45 TDS 28 turnovers (+6) and 4.5 YPC. Chicago offense had extreme weapon health as well, more turnovers and better run game.

San Diego 41 TDs 17 turnovers (-5) and 4 YPC. Less turnovers and less TDs with Rivers "revival" and same run game as Detroit.

Pit 37 TDs 20 turnovers (-2) and 3.5 YPC. 7 less TDS for a reason from Pit offense

Seattle 43 TDs 39 turnovers (+17) and 4.3 YPC. Fuck Wilson overrated piece of shit living off his defense.

GB 42 TDS 22 turnovers (even) and 4.7 YPC. Run game helped for sure even with Rodgers missing 8 games. TDS skewed when Rodgers played by far.

New England 44 TDs (same as Detroit) 29 turnover (+7) and 4.4 YPC. Better turnovers and run support for Mr. Brady.

Stafford clearly had to do more to keep the TDS similar to these offenses. Denver and Saints clearly better, but Detroit is number 3 true offense with 44 TDs and little to no help (tied with San Diego). Pats, Bears, Dallas, Eagles, Seahawks, Cincy live off their turnovers and run game. GB had run game support without Rodgers. Could leap frog Detroit with Rodgers health though.

 

[LKP]

oh sorry...didn't realize we were in 2nd or 3rd in long all 600 times a year we throw the ball. sounds like a pretty shitty offense.

22nd in YPC at 4 YPC. Lots of reasons to pass. And we were 14th in attempts. God you are so dumb.

 

[LKP]

And then you get into drops, weapon/RB fumbles (Lions 31st in league) and separation on top of lack of turnovers and run game. Stafford should have won MVP if not for Peyton Manning.

 

[tomdalton22]

Recovery rates are measured. So you can measure your luck with recovery rates. And flukes are clearly something you can decipher. Rarely occur like that Durham fumble. Play calling in the players heads gets trickier.

There are a lot of things that can be measured.

Over the course of his career Reggie Bush fumbles 0.022 times per rushing attempt. If he attempts 225 rushes he will likely fumble about 5 times.

Over the course of Matt Stafford's career he has an INT every 0.029 Attempts. If he attempts 650 passes this year it is likely that he will have about 19 INTs.

 

[LKP]

A blizzard inside Ford Field will cost the Lions the division, I guarantee it.

Speaking of which shouldn't have one of those this year. at Chicago and at Green Bay could snow but nowhere near the blizzard in Philly.

 

[LKP]

There are a lot of things that can be measured.

Over the course of his career Reggie Bush fumbles 0.022 times per rushing attempt. If he attempts 225 rushes he will likely fumble about 5 times.

Over the course of Matt Stafford's career he has an INT every 0.029 Attempts. If he attempts 650 passes this year it is likely that he will have about 19 INTs.

Bush has never lost that many fumbles in his career. He may put it on the ground but recovery rate has been better his whole career. Bad luck for Detroit him having the most fumbles lost. If he puts 5 on the ground, he could only lose 2 this year.

Stafford finally has the weapons to lower the 7 ints that weren't his fault and the coaching/weapons to lower the 12 ints that were his fault. Caldwell and company and Ebron/Tate can get him down to 12 ints on the year.

This team is stacked for Stafford. 40 TDs and mid 60% completion. Can't wait to see it.

 

[tomdalton22]

Lions 44 offensive TDs. Defense forced 22 turnovers. 4.0 YPC for Detroit's improved runnin game.

Denver 71 TDs. 4.1 YPC and 26 (+4). Denver was clearly better and had extreme weapon health with Thomas, Decker and Thomas and even Welker most of the year. Oline injuries.

Philly 51 TDs 31 turnovers (+9) and 5.1 YPC. Life pretty easy for Mr. Foles.

Saints 49 TDs 19 turnovers (-3) and 3.8 YPC. Saints offense was better

Cincy 47 TDS 31 turnover (+9) and 3.6 YPC. 9 more turnovers really helped Cincy

Dallas 45 TDS 28 turnover (+6) and 4.5 YPC. More turnovers and better run game for Romo.

Chicago 45 TDS 28 turnovers (+6) and 4.5 YPC. Chicago offense had extreme weapon health as well, more turnovers and better run game.

San Diego 41 TDs 17 turnovers (-5) and 4 YPC. Less turnovers and less TDs with Rivers "revival" and same run game as Detroit.

Pit 37 TDs 20 turnovers (-2) and 3.5 YPC. 7 less TDS for a reason from Pit offense

Seattle 43 TDs 39 turnovers (+17) and 4.3 YPC. Fuck Wilson overrated piece of shit living off his defense.

GB 42 TDS 22 turnovers (even) and 4.7 YPC. Run game helped for sure even with Rodgers missing 8 games. TDS skewed when Rodgers played by far.

New England 44 TDs (same as Detroit) 29 turnover (+7) and 4.4 YPC. Better turnovers and run support for Mr. Brady.

Stafford clearly had to do more to keep the TDS similar to these offenses. Denver and Saints clearly better, but Detroit is number 3 true offense with 44 TDs and little to no help (tied with San Diego). Pats, Bears, Dallas, Eagles, Seahawks, Cincy live off their turnovers and run game. GB had run game support without Rodgers. Could leap frog Detroit with Rodgers health though.

INTs by team

Denver 10
Philly 9
saints 12
Cinci 20
Dallas 12
Bears 13
SD 11
Pitt 14
Sea 9
GB 16
NE 11

Lions 19

Notice a theme here?

 

[LKP]

INTs by team

Denver 10
Philly 9
saints 12
Cinci 20
Dallas 12
Bears 13
SD 11
Pitt 14
Sea 9
GB 16
NE 11

Lions 19

Notice a theme here?

Short fields from turnovers. Less int opps. Alot less attempts for many of those teams.

Better run game. 3rd and shorter, don't have to take as many risks. Better run game, don't have to pass as much making less int opps.

Healtheir weapons with better separation. Life is easier for those QBs to make easier throws.

7 ints not his fault. Highest in league.

Stafford got screwed every way possible. Weapons separation, fumbles lost, weapons drops, lack of turnovers and 6 poor running days. he had to do too much.

40 TDds, 65% for Stafford and 12 ints. So can't wait.

 

[tomdalton22]

Bush has never lost that many fumbles in his career. He may put it on the ground but recovery rate has been better his whole career. Bad luck for Detroit him having the most fumbles lost. If he puts 5 on the ground, he could only lose 2 this year.

Stafford finally has the weapons to lower the 7 ints that weren't his fault and the coaching/weapons to lower the 12 ints that were his fault. Caldwell and company and Ebron/Tate can get him down to 12 ints on the year.

This team is stacked for Stafford. 40 TDs and mid 60% completion. Can't wait to see it.

I didn't say he would lose them...I said that is the rate in which he fumbles. Over his career he has lost 62% of his fumbles.

 

[tomdalton22]

Short fields from turnovers. Less int opps. Alot less attempts for many of those teams.

Better run game. 3rd and shorter, don't have to take as many risks. Better run game, don't have to pass as much making less int opps.

Healtheir weapons with better separation. Life is easier for those QBs to make easier throws.

7 ints not his fault. Highest in league.

Stafford got screwed every way possible. Weapons separation, fumbles lost, weapons drops, lack of turnovers and 6 poor running days. he had to do too much.

40 TDds, 65% for Stafford and 12 ints. So can't wait.

those must be your "imaginary adjusted stats"

His actual line will probably be more like this

33 TDs, 60% & 19 INTs with 7-9 wins.

 

[LKP]

I didn't say he would lose them...I said that is the rate in which he fumbles. Over his career he has lost 62% of his fumbles.

You said 5 fumbles on purpose. We shouldn't lose 4 again.

So it should drop. He lost 80% last year.

 

[LKP]

those must be your "imaginary adjusted stats"

His actual line will probably be more like this

33 TDs, 60% & 19 INTs with 7-9 wins.

Those are your dumbass stat predictions. He's got the coaching to improve, proper weapons now with better hands and separation and should get more turnover support.

40 TDs. If he's 32 TDs then we proably have 18-20 rushing TDs.

60% not with these weapons. No way.

19 ints will drop with better weapons, coaching and less bullshit ints like tipped balls and off hands and picks where he has to force because the D can't hold a lead or it's 3rd and long and the weapons dropped passes on 1st and 2nd down.

10-11 wins and more playoff wins.

 

[tomdalton22]

Those are your dumbass stat predictions. He's got the coaching to improve, proper weapons now with better hands and separation and should get more turnover support.

40 TDs. If he's 32 TDs then we proably have 18-20 rushing TDs.

60% not with these weapons. No way.

19 ints will drop with better weapons, coaching and less bullshit ints like tipped balls and off hands and picks where he has to force because the D can't hold a lead or it's 3rd and long and the weapons dropped passes on 1st and 2nd down.

10-11 wins and more playoff wins.

I have history on my side...all you have is wishful thinking.

 

[mhughes0021]

22nd in YPC at 4 YPC. Lots of reasons to pass. And we were 14th in attempts. God you are so dumb.

Stafford was 4th in attempts....my god youre such an idiot you cant even figure out how to do a search correctly.

RK PLAYER TEAM COMP ATT PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Peyton Manning, QB DEN 450 659 68.3 5,477 8.31 78 55 10 18 115.1 342
2 Matt Ryan, QB ATL 439 651 67.4 4,515 6.94 81 26 17 44 89.6 282
3 Drew Brees, QB NO 446 650 68.6 5,162 7.94 76 39 12 37 104.7 323
4 Matthew Stafford, QB DET 371 634 58.5 4,650 7.33 87 29 19 23 84.2 291
5 Tom Brady, QB NE 380 628 60.5 4,343 6.92 81 25 11 40 87.3 271
6 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 362 614 59.0 3,912 6.37 74 19 22 48 73.1 245
7 Ryan Tannehill, QB MIA 355 588 60.4 3,913 6.66 67 24 17 58 81.7 245
8 Andy Dalton, QB CIN 363 586 61.9 4,293 7.33 82 33 20 29 88.8 268
9 Ben Roethlisberger, QB PIT 375 584 64.2 4,261 7.30 67 28 14 42 92.0 266
10 Carson Palmer, QB ARI 362 572 63.3 4,274 7.47 91 24 22 41 83.9 267