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[LKP]

Why is it always "luck"?

Does Tucker get no credit for being a solid kicker who made 7 50+ FGs last year, kicking a long game-winner in an indoor stadium? It's not like there was a gust of wind that helped him out.

He misses that 9 times out of 10. But anyways bring on 2014. 2 more weeks. We'll be talking about how we clown stomped the Giants in front of the nation. First revenge game. Can't wait.

 

[UMRules06]

Calvin is clearly a good player two drops. Bad refs costing us 4 points. Lucky tip. And lucky FG by Tucker.

Lions outplayed Baltimore.

Good players can have bad days....Calvin Johnson dropping two passes means he played poorly....I.E. the Lions didn't play well enough as a group to win. Maybe his hand was hurt. Oh well doesn't change a loss to a win. Everything is always about bad luck with you, but if our kicker makes a 60 yard FG you'd chalk it up to his amazing talent and not proclaim it a "miracle". And sorry, luck is a part of sports like it or not. You get breaks, you don't get breaks. At the end of a season they balance each other out and the best teams emerge to go to the playoffs.

Excuse making gimmick is old. Zealot/troll.

 

[LKP]

Good players can have bad days....Calvin Johnson dropping two passes means he played poorly....I.E. the Lions didn't play well enough as a group to win. Maybe his hand was hurt. Oh well doesn't change a loss to a win. Everything is always about bad luck with you, but if our kicker makes a 60 yard FG you'd chalk it up to his amazing talent and not proclaim it a "miracle". And sorry, luck is a part of sports like it or not. You get breaks, you don't get breaks. At the end of a season they balance each other out and the best teams emerge to go to the playoffs.

Excuse making gimmick is old. Zealot/troll.

You just agreed with me. Luck is part of the sport. And it didn't even out for the Lions last year. Tons of bad luck. And Calvin had injured fingers that required surgery. More bad luck for us. And if Freese made a 60 yarder I would consider it luck. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[UMRules06]

You just agreed with me. Luck is part of the sport. And it didn't even out for the Lions last year. Tons of bad luck. And Calvin had injured fingers that required surgery. More bad luck for us. And if Freese made a 60 yarder I would consider it luck. Don't put words in my mouth.

Yes...there is bad luck and good luck. The Lions had plenty of good luck in their hail mary comeback wins in 2011. But I'm sure in your mind that was all skill. You seem to only like to focus on the "bad luck" the Lions encounter and ignore the rest.

The point is...luck evens out over a 16 game season. Some games you get breaks...some you don't. It sucks but it's true, and it's true for every single team in the NFL. So the luck factor is negligible. The best teams will emerge at the end, and the Lions did not. I am hopeful just like you that they will come back strong this season, but stop acting like they were just victims and not the cause of their downfall.

 

[grandy]

He misses that 9 times out of 10

So? There's still a lot of skill and ability involved. Based on Tucker's history, he could probably do better than 10% indoors at 61 yards.

The TD CJ caught in the Bengals game, that pass probably goes incomplete 9 out of 10 times, would you agree that was luck too?

 

[LKP]

So? There's still a lot of skill and ability involved. Based on Tucker's history, he could probably do better than 10% indoors at 61 yards.

The TD CJ caught in the Bengals game, that pass probably goes incomplete 9 out of 10 times, would you agree that was luck too?

No that pass gets completed a bunch more than that. FG kicking from that distance is luck. Big difference.

 

[LKP]

Yes...there is bad luck and good luck. The Lions had plenty of good luck in their hail mary comeback wins in 2011. But I'm sure in your mind that was all skill. You seem to only like to focus on the "bad luck" the Lions encounter and ignore the rest.

The point is...luck evens out over a 16 game season. Some games you get breaks...some you don't. It sucks but it's true, and it's true for every single team in the NFL. So the luck factor is negligible. The best teams will emerge at the end, and the Lions did not. I am hopeful just like you that they will come back strong this season, but stop acting like they were just victims and not the cause of their downfall.

It doesn't always even out. It didn't last year for Detroit. Bad luck was against Detroit more than good luck.

And Detroit had no hail mary comebacks. They were dominating second half performances. Great plays by the defense on Romo, big play to Calvin and Best against Vikings, very good second half defense. Incredible passing against Oakland in the 4th Quarter. Nothing lucky about several plays of Lions domination.

 

[grandy]

No that pass gets completed a bunch more than that. FG kicking from that distance is luck. Big difference.

Seriously? You can't make this shit up...

I'm willing to say it was both a great throw and catch if you're willing to say Tucker made a great kick. Tucker is 10/11 on 50+ attempts in his two years, it's not like he was some no-name scrub signed off waivers that week.

 

[UMRules06]

It doesn't always even out. It didn't last year for Detroit. Bad luck was against Detroit more than good luck.

And Detroit had no hail mary comebacks. They were dominating second half performances. Great plays by the defense on Romo, big play to Calvin and Best against Vikings, very good second half defense. Incredible passing against Oakland in the 4th Quarter. Nothing lucky about several plays of Lions domination.

You just said all that stuff about the Lions involved zero luck. Yet you can flip it around to the opponents and then you say the exact same sort of stuff was luck.

"Great plays by the defense on Romo." vs. "Lucky tip and lucky INT" by the Giants. Why wasn't it great defense by the Giants?

"Big play to Calvin and Best" vs. "Lions gave up lucky long passes"

"Incredible passing by the Lions" vs. "Stafford is the superior QB and Flacco got lucky."

Calvin Johnson makes a ridiculous catch in triple coverage in the back of the end zone vs. Dallas. SKILL!!!! Tucker makes a 61 yard FG indoors. LUCK!!!!!

Trolling again is obvious.

 

[LKP]

You just said all that stuff about the Lions involved zero luck. Yet you can flip it around to the opponents and then you say the exact same sort of stuff was luck.

"Great plays by the defense on Romo." vs. "Lucky tip and lucky INT" by the Giants. Why wasn't it great defense by the Giants?

"Big play to Calvin and Best" vs. "Lions gave up lucky long passes"

"Incredible passing by the Lions" vs. "Stafford is the superior QB and Flacco got lucky."

Calvin Johnson makes a ridiculous catch in triple coverage in the back of the end zone vs. Dallas. SKILL!!!! Tucker makes a 61 yard FG indoors. LUCK!!!!!

Trolling again is obvious.

Tips are lucky. Detroit was jumping routes. There is a difference

Long TDs given up on us were against an injured CB. Lions were beating healthy CBs.

I never said Flacco got lucky.

Field goal kicking is more luck. Calvin is a supreme athlete. And we dominated the Cowboys in the second half. Many plays for Detroit doing well compared to one for Baltimore.

I'm not trolling. You are just too dense to see the whole picture and the difference between many plays of domination and one play.

 

[UMRules06]

Tips are lucky. Detroit was jumping routes. There is a difference

Long TDs given up on us were against an injured CB. Lions were beating healthy CBs.

I never said Flacco got lucky.

Field goal kicking is more luck. Calvin is a supreme athlete. And we dominated the Cowboys in the second half. Many plays for Detroit doing well compared to one for Baltimore.

I'm not trolling. You are just too dense to see the whole picture and the difference between many plays of domination and one play.

Tips are lucky now and not a good defensive play. I'll remember that on every pass deflection I see. Justin Tucker is one of the best kickers in the league, just like Calvin Johnson is the best WR in the league. I understand you need to fit the story to your overall zealot narrative, so I expected that you'd just dismiss that neatly.

Predictable and boring. Get a new gimmick sir.

 

[LKP]

61 yard kicks are luck. Calvin winning a jump ball is not luck. But whatever, you can continue to be blind and wrong.

Let's talk about how good Stafford has looked this preseason. Incredible footwork, great reads to find Tate and Ogletree and Ebron. He's looking elite.

 

[UMRules06]

61 yard kicks are luck. Calvin winning a jump ball is not luck. But whatever, you can continue to be blind and wrong.

Let's talk about how good Stafford has looked this preseason. Incredible footwork, great reads to find Tate and Ogletree and Ebron. He's looking elite.

Nice way to change the subject but fine. He is looking good, but he's gotta do it when it counts. I'm as optimistic as you are about his chances this year.

 

[kdp80]

Let's talk about how good Stafford has looked this preseason. Incredible footwork, great reads to find Tate and Ogletree and Ebron. He's looking elite in preseason.

Fixed

 

[mhughes0021]

61 yard kicks are luck. Calvin winning a jump ball is not luck. But whatever. you can continue to be blind and wrong.

Let's talk about how good Stafford has looked this preseason. Incredible footwork, great reads to find Tate and Ogletree and Ebron. He's looking elite.

Locking onto your primary target as the defender blows his coverage on tate is a "great read"? A 12 year old could have made that throw....

 

[atxlion82]

Locking onto your primary target as the defender blows his coverage on tate is a "great read"? A 12 year old could have made that throw....

Didn't Tate almost come to a stop waiting for the ball on the TD

 

[dtroitlionsfan951]

Locking onto your primary target as the defender blows his coverage on tate is a "great read"? A 12 year old could have made that throw....

How is a double move and pump fake a "blown" coverage btw? If a defender bites it doesn't make it a blown coverage. Typically a blown coverage is a zone where a player was supposed to be but was doing something completely different instead. Like a defender thinking he has safety help so he only plays a 10 yard zone or something but is actually man to man so the receiver runs by without having to do anything. That is clearly not what happened on that play.

 

[tonyballs]

How is a double move and pump fake a "blown" coverage btw? If a defender bites it doesn't make it a blown coverage. Typically a blown coverage is a zone where a player was supposed to be but was doing something completely different instead. Like a defender thinking he has safety help so he only plays a 10 yard zone or something but is actually man to man so the receiver runs by without having to do anything. That is clearly not what happened on that play.

Bro, do you know who you're arguing with? Nothing the Lions players do on the field is a good thing. It's either a blown coverage, someone fell ..blah blah blah blah. How dare anyone think that Golden Tate could juke a defender out of his shoes!! It had to have been a mistake. lmfao..

 

[tonyballs]

Didn't Tate almost come to a stop waiting for the ball on the TD

Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[LKP]

The ball was perfectly thrown and a great pump fake. Terrel Brown by the way, former 49er.

You people just amaze me with your negativity.