Suh suitors

[boogerlovejoy]

Stafford is a very good QB. Caldwell said himself he is underrated. He knows more than anyone on a message board easily. I'll stick with the game tape and the experts.

11 wins. I was right.

A coach said good things about one of his own players??

Holy jumpin lizard shit, Batman!!!!!

Someone call Vicky Vale......this is front page shit!!!!

 

[lucke]

A coach said good things about one of his own players??

Holy jumpin lizard shit, Batman!!!!!

Someone call Vicky Vale......this is front page shit!!!!

exactly... just like Mayhew publicly said that Schwartz was a good coach and then 3 days after the season ended, he fired his ass...

it's when a critic starts saying that he's good is when i'll start believing it (much like Kurt Warner stating that Stafford made some improvements this year).

 

[Mitchrapp]

exactly... just like Mayhew publicly said that Schwartz was a good coach and then 3 days after the season ended, he fired his ass...

it's when a critic starts saying that he's good is when i'll start believing it (much like Kurt Warner stating that Stafford made some improvements this year).

That's kind of an open ended remark. He also had some things that he went backwards with..

 

[LKP]

A coach told the truth. Caldwell isn't a liar. He just has seen the game tape and knows all the plays called.

Underrated, very good player. such a shame you guys aren't happy with him as our QB. Your loss, Stafford is here for many years to come and I'll love every second of it

 

[lucke]

That's kind of an open ended remark. He also had some things that he went backwards with..

agree, but lets not get into that right now again.

A coach told the truth. Caldwell isn't a liar. He just has seen the game tape and knows all the plays called.

a coach also knows that if he wants to stick around, he's not going to talk sh*t about his "nucleus"... Caldwell is a very smart person and knows what to say to the media, he's not going to ruffle anyone's feathers... aka coach speak

 

[mhughes0021]

How about resign Fairley......draft that DT from Texas, Malcom Brown......and sign Houston!!!

Ansah, Fairley, Brown, Houston is a nightmare DL in passing situations.

Id love Brown on the dline. But if la'el collins falls to 23 hed be hard to pass up for our oline. He can play lg or rt.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Id love Brown on the dline. But if la'el collins falls to 23 hed be hard to pass up for our oline. He can play lg or rt.

Can he do both.....that would be a hell of a draft pick!

 

[tonyballs]

4 Lions DTs hitting FA. A DT in the draft is high priority. Especially if they lose Suh or even Fairley.

 

[sggatecl]

4 Lions DTs hitting FA. A DT in the draft is high priority. Especially if they lose Suh or even Fairley.

Absolutely. Was hoping to see more Caraun Reid this season. Probably just wasn't ready with the depth we already had. Hoping he pulls a SLH type surprise.

 

[LKP]

Id love Brown on the dline. But if la'el collins falls to 23 hed be hard to pass up for our oline. He can play lg or rt.

Collins strugled at tackle at the Senior Bowl practices.

 

[tonyballs]

Absolutely. Was hoping to see more Caraun Reid this season. Probably just wasn't ready with the depth we already had. Hoping he pulls a SLH type surprise.

Reid playing this year was a pipedream. The kid is a gigantic project. If the Lions go DT early this year, I expect Reid to ride the bench again.

 

[sggatecl]

Reid playing this year was a pipedream. The kid is a gigantic project. If the Lions go DT early this year, I expect Reid to ride the bench again.

Looking back he actually played over 100 snaps this season. I was kind of surprised at that. He was really good on ST in college, surprised he didn't get more love there.

 

[sggatecl]

Mulitple reports of Seattle being the top target for Suh. This just 1 week after the Lions were reported to be the top target.

Fuck the media.

 

[JScottWriter]

Mulitple reports of Seattle being the top target for Suh. This just 1 week after the Lions were reported to be the top target.

Fuck the media.

Anything to grab headlines. My sources close to Suh said that he is going to retire. Wow that easy to grab a headline.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

There's no set formula for how NFL contracts are constructed, but since the Lions aren't in a position to front-load a deal, here's a hypothetical projection.

YEAR BASE BONUS CARRYOVER CAP HIT DEAD
2015 $5,000,000 $3,000,000 $9,737,500 $17,737,500 $59,737,500
2016 $15,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 $18,000,000 $42,000,000
2017 $17,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 $20,000,000 $26,000,000
2018 $15,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 $18,000,000 $6,000,000
2019 $16,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 $19,000,000 $3,000,000
2020 $18,000,000 $0 $0 $18,000,000 $0
This hypothetical includes a $15 million signing bonus, spread over the first five years of the contract, as well as the first two years base salaries guaranteed, with the third year being guaranteed on the fifth day of that league year.

The base salary would be lower the first season to compensate for the $9.7 million cap hit carryover stemming from multiple restructures of Suh's previous contract. Still, the 2015 cap hit would be significantly lower (essentially half) what it would take to franchise him.

Much like Watt and McCoy's deals, the team would be in position to move on after three seasons if production no longer matched salary.

I know this is just a guess......but that would be a very good deal for the Lions. Basically a 3 or 4 year deal but structured in a way that would allow an out if he does fall off or get injured.

After 3 years.......if everything went to hell....you could be out of Suh's, Staffords and Calvins contracts with minimal dead cap money.

 

[tsmith7559]

There's no set formula for how NFL contracts are constructed, but since the Lions aren't in a position to front-load a deal, here's a hypothetical projection.

YEAR BASE BONUS CARRYOVER CAP HIT DEAD
2015 $5,000,000 $3,000,000 $9,737,500 $17,737,500 $59,737,500
2016 $15,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 $18,000,000 $42,000,000
2017 $17,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 $20,000,000 $26,000,000
2018 $15,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 $18,000,000 $6,000,000
2019 $16,000,000 $3,000,000 $0 $19,000,000 $3,000,000
2020 $18,000,000 $0 $0 $18,000,000 $0
This hypothetical includes a $15 million signing bonus, spread over the first five years of the contract, as well as the first two years base salaries guaranteed, with the third year being guaranteed on the fifth day of that league year.

The base salary would be lower the first season to compensate for the $9.7 million cap hit carryover stemming from multiple restructures of Suh's previous contract. Still, the 2015 cap hit would be significantly lower (essentially half) what it would take to franchise him.

Much like Watt and McCoy's deals, the team would be in position to move on after three seasons if production no longer matched salary.

I know this is just a guess......but that would be a very good deal for the Lions. Basically a 3 or 4 year deal but structured in a way that would allow an out if he does fall off or get injured.

After 3 years.......if everything went to hell....you could be out of Suh's, Staffords and Calvins contracts with minimal dead cap money.

They need to drop the first years cap down more, need to sign at least one good FA, and resign a few of our own

 

[boogerlovejoy]

They need to drop the first years cap down more, need to sign at least one good FA, and resign a few of our own

That 1st year hit, even though its $17.8M.....is actually a $5M savings from his 2014 cap number. Hard to drop it much lower than that because of the almost $10M dead money number attached.

 

[tsmith7559]

That 1st year hit, even though its $17.8M.....is actually a $5M savings from his 2014 cap number. Hard to drop it much lower than that because of the almost $10M dead money number attached.

$16 mil signing bonus, $1 mil base, give him a roster bonus in 2016, his cap number would be $13.94 in 2015, savings is what Iupati would cost in 2015

 

[boogerlovejoy]

$16 mil signing bonus, $1 mil base, give him a roster bonus in 2016, his cap number would be $13.94 in 2015, savings is what Iupati would cost in 2015

Fine with me.

Suh, Iupati....and a RT in round 1.....

Winnah Winnah Chicken Dinnah!!!!

 

[LKP]

Iupati is not much of a pass blocker. Great run blocker though.

Clint Boling from Cincy is a cheaper option. Can play center too.