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Tigers 2023-2024 Offseason: Trades, Free Agents, Call ups, Rule 5, tender, non-tender

kalinecountry said:
There is no other catcher in the system other than Dingler and he isn't ready.
I won't be surprised if something happens between now and the middle of 2024 for another catcher.
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it wouldn't surprise me either. I just don't have much confidence in Kelly. I think they could pick someone off of the waiver wire for league minimum and get similar results.
 
kalinecountry said:
It's possible he could be a late bloomer at age 24 or 25, but it seems doubtful a team would carry, him at his age and where he sits in the minors.
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that's what I am hoping...he stays in the system and gets better this year.

I remember when they signed him...I was pretty excited because everything I read indicated he had star potential.
 
Kelly is a good defensive C. For a backup that's all you need. Problem is in today's game it seems starters don't seem to start a lot so backup C's get 40-50 starts. Dingler blows.
 
Mitchrapp said:
Kelly is a good defensive C. For a backup that's all you need. Problem is in today's game it seems starters don't seem to start a lot so backup C's get 40-50 starts. Dingler blows.
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From what I understand, he's a good defensive catcher but his hitting is what the Tigers are concerned with. He struggled at Toledo but most of his ABs were in AA last year.

His overall offensive stats last year, he hit .256, .361 OBP, .839 OPS, 16 HR, 22 2B
 
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kalinecountry said:
Apparently the Tigers had two doucebag cunt excuses for a man, E-Rod and Spencer Turnbull.
https://twitter.com/EvanDrellich/status/1726693074829811979/photo/1

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/spencer-turnbull-awarded-full-year-of-service-for-2023.html
Spencer Turnbull Awarded Full Year Of Service For 2023.
MLBTR

Is anyone surprised? Threaten a legal filing and get your service time to make
it all go away. Turnbull was going to get his full service time come hell or high water.
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If I'm the Tigers, I do the same. It's an easy way to wash put it behind you. I'm not sure how this helps him in free agency. I would think this makes him less desirable to other major league teams.
 
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...nges-javier-baez-offseason-plans/71657854007/
'Days of Roar' Tigers Podcast: Breaking down roster changes and can Detroit Tigers fix Javier B?ez? 62 minutes.
Freep

On this episode: Mark and Evan have a slew of changes to the roster to cover this week. Are there any surprises as to who was kept or let go? Later in the pod, the guys review Evan's piece on Javier B?ez's offseason training plans. What's different about this offseason and what new options are available to help the shortstop fix his swing? To close the pod, the guys answer some listener mail-bag questions including one that catches Evan completely by surprise.
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/11/21/watercooler-wednesday-111/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
Totally Tigers

Last week, the Detroit Tigers non-tendered pitcher Spencer Turnbull. This after a year of drama in which he did not agree with the team about a demotion to Toledo.

Without a doubt, stats were heavily in favor of the Tigers. Turnbull had not pitched well at all.

From all appearances, Spencer was focused on earning his service time in order to become a free agent in a year. There was also the issue of the 5-year service mark which allows players to refuse demotions.

And just yesterday, it appears that the 2 sides resolved a legal filing by Turnbull giving him a full year of service time despite pitching only 31 innings at the MLB level.

For those of you who wish to read all the details about what transpired, here is the link to yesterday?s blog:

The question now to ask is whether Turnbull was right to do what he did.

Is it OK for a player to take whatever necessary steps (as long as they are legal) in an attempt to protect and promote his career?

Or is there a limit to one?s actions that may be deemed either appropriate or inappropriate?
What do you think about Turnbull?s actions as he tried to earn service time?

Do you approve of how Spencer Turnbull tried to manage his career?

1. Yes, he was within his rights.

2. No, his moves were inappropriate.

VOTE
 
kalinecountry said:
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/11/21/watercooler-wednesday-111/
WATERCOOLER WEDNESDAY.
Totally Tigers

Last week, the Detroit Tigers non-tendered pitcher Spencer Turnbull. This after a year of drama in which he did not agree with the team about a demotion to Toledo.

Without a doubt, stats were heavily in favor of the Tigers. Turnbull had not pitched well at all.

From all appearances, Spencer was focused on earning his service time in order to become a free agent in a year. There was also the issue of the 5-year service mark which allows players to refuse demotions.

And just yesterday, it appears that the 2 sides resolved a legal filing by Turnbull giving him a full year of service time despite pitching only 31 innings at the MLB level.

For those of you who wish to read all the details about what transpired, here is the link to yesterday?s blog:

The question now to ask is whether Turnbull was right to do what he did.

Is it OK for a player to take whatever necessary steps (as long as they are legal) in an attempt to protect and promote his career?

Or is there a limit to one?s actions that may be deemed either appropriate or inappropriate?
What do you think about Turnbull?s actions as he tried to earn service time?

Do you approve of how Spencer Turnbull tried to manage his career?

1. Yes, he was within his rights.

2. No, his moves were inappropriate.

VOTE
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good question but probably poorly worded options for our response. He is 100% within his rights to do what he did. A part of me doesn't blame him. I feel for guys like him. He had his best years during his prime age (27-28 for most athletes) but was still 3 years away from a big payday. He's already 31 and has "only" earned about $6M (only is relative to professional baseball players)

So, he was well within his rights but how he went about it was inappropriate and will probably backfire on him in the long run. For his sake, I hope he has a decent career and makes some good money. I am also glad he isn't a headache for the Tigers anymore.
 
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