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Tigers 2023-2024 Offseason: Trades, Free Agents, Call ups, Rule 5, tender, non-tender

https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/12/01/saturday-survey-105/
SATURDAY SURVEY.
Totally Tigers

Earlier this week, the Tigers added starting pitcher Kenta Maeda to their rotation. It is believed that the team wants to add another starting pitcher along with a couple bullpen arms.

But Scott Harris said this:

?You?ll never hear me say that we have enough pitching. I don?t even believe that that?s possible, to have enough pitching. So we?re going to continue to try to add pitching and see what?s available and if we can find more ways to make our staff deeper and better overall.?

Last year, the Tigers went through 17 different starting pitchers. There were 13 pitchers (both starters and relievers) who went on extended IL stints.

Out of all their starting pitching, 4 are no longer on the 26-man roster. They lost Matthew Boyd to surgery and his contract with the team recently ended. Eduardo Rodriguez exercised his opt out clause and Michael Lorenzen was traded.

Spencer Turnbull, who was once part of the starting rotation, was non-tendered by the team.

Currently, the starting rotation projects to have Maeda, another starter, Matt Manning, Casey Mize, Reese Olson and Tarik Skubal. Of all of them, Mize is the biggest question mark not having pitched in almost 2 years.

Is adding just 1 more starter going to be enough? Should the Tigers sign yet another SP for the rotation given all the injuries and bullpen days of the past?

Or should they keep the focus on using their younger players and building up their arms and experience?

Should the Tigers sign more than 2 new starting pitchers?

1. Yes, because of the injury factor.

2. No, the youngsters need to pitch and gain experience.

VOTE

I voted yes. Not just because of injury but because I'm not sure they have enough guys period. Who knows what they have in Mize. Manning has not proven to me that he is even a starter. They just have too many young guys that can't pitch enough innings
 
I voted yes. Not just because of injury but because I'm not sure they have enough guys period. Who knows what they have in Mize. Manning has not proven to me that he is even a starter. They just have too many young guys that can't pitch enough innings

Agreed, worst case you end up with too many starters. What a horrible problem to have lol
 
I voted yes. Not just because of injury but because I'm not sure they have enough guys period. Who knows what they have in Mize. Manning has not proven to me that he is even a starter. They just have too many young guys that can't pitch enough innings

I voted yes also. This is a good thing to have. Look at how many years Manning and Mize have been with the team. Finding at least one if not two more starters has to show them that they are on notice to have success and stay injury free.
Plus if they do stay injury free, they too will be on a limit for innings pitched.
Will any of the Tigers pitchers give them 150 innings?
 
Another guy the Tigers could spec on as a RP is Kirby Yates..decent year tons of swing and miss..just an inordinate amount of walks..which was strange for Yates who had solid command and control pre TJ..may be fixable..was great before the arm issues.

Now that Anthropolous has stolen my preferred RP (Reynaldo Lopez) another option available is Robert Stephenson..who TB supercharged after a mediocre career with CIN/COL/PIT..his last 32 games..were the stuff of legend..went to a cutter/split emphasis..lets go Scotty boy.

MGorosh
 
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An Inside Look at the Detroit Tigers with AJ Hinch with Foul Territory.
Detroit Tigers manager AJ Hinch joins the guys on #FTlive to chat about his team. From offseason additions, to the development of young players, to the team's mentality, AJ gives lots of great insight. Also, hear his reaction to Jason Benetti and the city of Detroit! 29 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TMf7SLHIz4&ab_channel=FoulTerritory
 
https://www.blessyouboys.com/2023/1...m-federowicz-alfredo-amezega-lakeland-complex
Anthony Iapoce to take over as Tigers first base coach amid plenty of other system news.
After managing the Toledo Mud Hens in 2023, Iapoco will take over from Alfredo Amezaga on AJ Hinch?s coaching staff in 2024.
BYBTB

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...le-a-toledo-high-a-west-michigan/71767386007/
Detroit Tigers stay internal for new managers at Triple-A Toledo, High-A West Michigan.
Freep

The Tigers will name Anthony Iapoce as their new first base coach, Lynn Henning of the Detroit News reports (X link). Tim Federowicz is leaving his position as the big league catching coach to take over as the manager at Triple-A Toledo, which was Iapoce?s previous job in 2023. Iapoce worked as a hitting coach with the Rangers and Cubs from 2016-21 and then as a senior hitting coordinator with the Red Sox in 2022 before joining Detroit?s organization. Federowicz retired from playing following the 2021 season, and the former catcher is already on his second Triple-A managerial stint after previously being the skipper of the Mariners? top affiliate in 2022.
 
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https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2023/12/02/deeper-discussions-97/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

Much of the buzz this Hot Stove season is about Shohei Ohtani and which team will win the bidding war for his services.

Multiple reports have him landing a contract somewhere in the neighborhood of $500+ mill.

That figure is more than double the entire payroll of the top-spending teams not named the Mets. And when you land a player with that kind of contract, you must keep spending on other players to fill out the roster.

Simply adding a player like Ohtani is not enough if you still have holes in your lineup.

But is adding a mega contract a wise move? Does it help or end up hurting a team?

The Detroit Tigers had a number of large contracts with the biggest ones going to Miguel Cabrera and Justin Verlander. Cabrera became untradeable and the Tigers actually paid another team to take JV?s contract off their hands.

As Detroit continues its rebuild, would you want to see them add another long-term significant contract in an effort to win that ring?

Would you risk having that contract eventually limit the team?s payroll and further acquisition of players?

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can also respond to other readers.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.

Ready?

Would you want to see the Tigers add another long-term significant contract to their payroll in the future?

Should the Tigers add another long-term very expensive contract to their payroll in the future?

1. Yes, willing to take the risk for a ring.

2. No, been there, done that.

VOTE
 
https://www.blessyouboys.com/2023/1...l-response-al-avila-chris-ilitch-scott-harris
Detroit Tigers fan poll: Are you confident in AJ Hinch as the Tigers? manager?
BYBTB

Hinch has been the driving force behind a lot of organizational change in his three years as manager. Are you still confident in his leadership?

AJ Hinch arrived in Detroit on October 30, 2020. In a little over three years as manager of the Detroit Tigers, he?s undoubtedly been the key driver in the effort to remake themselves into a cutting edge organization. However, on the field things have proceeded in fits and starts, leading to a 221-265 record over those three seasons. Based on the talent he had to work with, that?s not terrible, but obviously the club is still far from their goals.

So the question is how much confidence do knowledgeable Tigers fans have in AJ Hinch at this point?

One thing seems certain. Hinch is going nowhere. This is no surprise to us after seeing the level of influence Hinch has exerted at all levels of franchise. He?s had a rare opportunity as a manager to help reshape player development from the farm system to the major leagues, and had a big hand in the transition of the front office from Al Avila?s regime to Scott Harris. A small but vocal contingent believed that Hinch would jump ship at the first good opportunity after using the Tigers as a stepping stone to rebuild his reputation in the wake of the Houston Astros cheating scandal, but by now it should be obvious that he?s fully committed for the foreseeable future.

On Friday, Hinch appeared on the Foul Territory podcast, which features former major leaguers as guest hosts. At one point, asking about the Tigers and their future, a fairly shrewd question was posed to him. ?Would he reach 1000 managerial wins with the Tigers??

Currently Hinch sits at 791 wins, 209 short of that goal. We?d love to believe that the Tigers will average 105 wins in 2024 and 2025, but that?s pretty unrealistic. To reach 1000, he?ll need to stick around through 2026.

His answer? ?Absolutely.?

Now, that isn?t much to go on. A manager can?t say much else. Still, he didn?t say ?hopefully,? which is probably the standard answer. We wouldn?t want to make too much out of this, but Hinch?s ?absolutely? is the most substantive comment Hinch has made about his contract status and long term plans since he took over. He declined reporters questions on the topic throughout 2023, Chris Ilitch nor Scott Harris have really discussed it in specifics other than to express full confidence in Hinch, and details of the terms or salary haven?t been public.

Of course, if you were watching closely, this wasn?t much of a question in the first place. Much of the overhaul of the Tigers? front office and player development system has Hinch?s fingerprints on it. When Avila was fired, it was Hinch appearing with Chris Ilitch, assisting in the search that led to Scott Harris, and throughout the process his future as manager was never remotely in question despite a new front office taking over.

Unless things go very poorly, Hinch is going to be managing the Tigers for years to come.

Personally I think Hinch has been a major asset to the Tigers overall, but the one standout flaw to me is the consistently slow starts. He brought it up himself on the Foul Territory podcast. Through April 30, the Hinch-led Tigers have produced records of 8-19 in 2021, 7-13 in 2022, and 10-16 in 2023. The whole 2022 season was just a general mess, but in both 2021 and 2023 the Tigers picked up the pace after rough starts and played average or better ball the rest of the way.

The Tigers can?t afford enough faltering start in April and May if they?re going to threaten in a very winnable looking AL Central in 2024. Right now their most realistic path to the postseason is to convince leadership to be aggressive at the trade deadline with a good first half. Entering camp they should have a few less positional question marks than over the past three years. Hopefully Hinch and company can take advantage of that and be better prepared to hit the ground running.

What is your confidence level in AJ Hinch?s leadership right now? Vote below, and let us know what you think in the comments.

Poll:
How do you feel about AJ Hinch?
 
The Detroit Tigers added 35-year-old right-hander Kenta Maeda to their starting rotation this past week, giving them a proven veteran to work alongside a quartet of less established, yet very promising, younger hurlers.
The projected foursome that Maeda will join comprises Matt Manning, Casey Mize, Reese Olson, and Tarik Skubal, all of whom, assuming good health, project as solid big-league starters. Alex Faedo, Sawyer Gipson-Long, and Joey Wentz, who combined to make 35 starts last year, could also factor into the mix.

Which brings us to the pitcher with arguably the highest ceiling in the organization. Drafted third overall in 2021 out of an Oklahoma City high school, Jackson Jobe possesses a power arsenal that could propel him to the top half of the Tigers rotation in the not-too-distant future.
After seeing the start of his 2023 season delayed by a back ailment, the 21-year-old right-hander put up a 2.81 ERA with 84 strikeouts in 64 innings between three levels, and he followed that up with four impressive outings in the Arizona Fall League.
Jobe features a mid-to-upper 90s fastball, a sweeping slider that spins around 3,000 RPMs, and a changeup that his AFL manager, Javier Colina, described to Lynn Henning of The Detroit News as ?the best I?ve seen (in the minor leagues) since Zack Greinke.?

I asked Tigers President of Baseball Operations Scott Harris about Jobe during the GM Meetings.

?He has dominating stuff,? Harris told me. ?You saw it across multiple levels and in the Fall League this year. The most important thing for him is that he made a real adjustment from [Low-A] Lakeland to [High-A] West Michigan. He started absolutely challenging hitters, realizing how good his stuff is and how when he was throwing chase pitches he was often doing hitters a favor. He started challenging them directly, landing all of his shapes in the zone repeatedly, and was ending at-bats quickly, which allowed him to go deeper in games. That is going to be a very valuable skill when he gets to the big leagues.?

Fangraphs
 
The Tigers are working behind the scenes to narrow the gap and compete for top players from Japan under president of baseball operations Scott Harris.

Kan Ikeda, who worked for Team Japan and won a gold medal in the World Baseball Classic, is joining the Tigers' front office after several years in the advance scouting department.

I saw Ikeda at the winter meetings this morning. He is excited about the new role.

Evan Petzold Freep
 
https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...eetings-jim-leyland-hall-of-fame/71803211007/
Detroit Tigers 'Days of Roar' Podcast: How will Winter Meetings impact Detroit Tigers' roster? 61 minutes.

On this episode: Evan joins Mark from Nashville this week as the MLB Winter Meetings are about to begin.
The guys break down the continuing coaching changes for the offseason and also note former Detroit Tigers manager Jim Leyland's election into the Baseball Hall of Fame.
The guys also break down Evan's piece on the roster construction so far, the Tigers organization making a push to recruit more players from Asia and Mark's trade idea. Find out why Evan considers Mark's proposal "dancing with the devil."
 
A.J. Hinch signed a contract extension with the #Tigers after the 2023 season, as announced by president of baseball operations Scott Harris.

Hinch: ?I love working here. I love who I work for. ? I think we can win here.?
 
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