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Tigers 2023-2024 Offseason: Trades, Free Agents, Call ups, Rule 5, tender, non-tender

Mitchrapp said:
Assuming he hit's 40 in Comerica. One dimensional with no defense. Where would you play him, DH only? We already have guys that should DH. Just not a fan who can't get more hits.
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He's averaged 121 games in left field the last 2 years so I'm not sure why you keep thinking he'd only dh.
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2024/01/18/five-for-friday-100/
FIVE FOR FRIDAY.
Totally Tigers

Several weeks ago, we covered how baseball has been changing statistically over the past decade. How the old traditional stats have given way to those that tell a more accurate picture. How Front Offices, analysts and everyone one in this industry has been using these new(er) stats for awhile now.

And how fans must adjust as well. We have to remain updated and aware of these now standard ways of analyzing the game. If we don?t, we will no longer really understand what is going on in the game, why some players are considered better than others and why some are retained, while others are not.

The first blog covered the new offensive stats which have taken over the game. If you didn?t catch it the first time ? or need a refresher ? here it is:

Today, let?s cover the top 5 stats for pitching. The ones you need to know and use.

Like the newer offensive numbers, today?s pitching stats are much more accurate than their ancestors. Most importantly, statisticians have figured out to present numbers that tell the truest story about a pitcher without the influence of their teams, other players and defensive factors ? all of which impact his stats.

These are the numbers used by every Front Office to determine the real value of their pitchers and other hurlers they are thinking about acquiring.

A number of fans were puzzled at some of the Tigers? recent signings because they were looking at win-loss records and ERA. But if they were focused on the more accurate stats like Harris and Co. were doing, they?d see why they were signed.

The next time you look at a pitcher?s stats, you?ll want to skim over the win-loss record and ERA in favor of the stats that eliminate outside factors and tell a much more accurate story about his real skills.

So what should you be looking at? Here are the top 5 stats:
 
gotime909 said:
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Baddoo, Vierling even Carpenter is better out there. None of these guys are going to win you a gold glove but they have to play somewhere and they're better than 40 home run guy. And Mckinstry can play outr there. Ibanez even. We need an IF not a bad defensive OF.
 
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podca...cody-stavenhagen/id1557916983?i=1000642211580
Turning the Corner Tigers Podcast Episode 138: Detroit Tigers Seek International Success. 46 minutes.

The Detroit Tigers signed another class of international free agents.
The Athletic's Cody Stavenhagen and co-host Kieran Steckley discuss the organization's failures in that department. Other topics include power ranking the team's units, Gary Sheffield and streaming.
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2024/01/19/saturday-survey-112/
SATURDAY SURVEY.
Totally Tigers

Casey Mize last pitched for the Detroit Tigers in early 2022. He threw only 10 innings that April before being shut down and having Tommy John surgery in June. Recently, it was revealed that he also had back surgery from a long-standing issue at some point after his TJ surgery. The date of that surgery has not been released. It is believed to have also been in 2022.

Mize missed almost the entire 2022 season and all of 2023. It will be 2 years since he last pitched should he return to the rotation.

He came back to Detroit in late August of last year to throw live batting practice. He lasted only for 15 pitches before being shut down again with fatigue.

He did not pitch again for weeks and in November it was announced that he was back to his throwing program. Yet, he is still suffering from arm fatigue. The Tigers are being very cautious and keeping him at a lower pace in his throwing program.

The average pitcher requires 12-18 months post-TJ for recovery with a full return closer to the 18 months. It will be 20 months for Mize should he return and throw in spring training.

Mize was the #1 overall draft pick back in 2018. In his career for the Tigers, he has thrown only 1 full season out of 3 (1 was only 1/3rd of a season).?That was back in 2021.

What do you think about Casey Mize?s future? Can he return after 2 major surgeries and significant time away?

Will Casey Mize return and remain in the Tigers' starting rotation?

1. Yes, he'll be fine.

2. Yes, but it's going to take awhile.

3. It doesn't look promising.

4. No, the odds don't favor him.

Vote
 
Casey Mize and the Tigers have settled at $840,000. Mize will earn $830,000 in 2024 with a $10,000 buyout on a $3.1 million club option for 2025.

More to follow....
 
https://www.mlb.com/tigers/news/casey-mize-tigers-agree-to-1-year-deal-avoid-arbitration
Mize, Tigers avoid arbitration with 1-year deal.
Tigers official site

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2024/1...ers-casey-mize-contract-agreement-arbitration
Tigers, Casey Mize come to contract agreement.
The two sides will not go to an arbitration hearing after all.
BYBTB

https://motorcitybengals.com/posts/detroit-tigers-casey-mize-agree-contract-avoid-arbitration-2024
Detroit Tigers and Casey Mize agree to one year deal avoiding arbitration.
Detroit Tigers and right-handed pitcher Casey Mize avoided their arbitration hearing, agreeing to an extension.
MCBTB

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/tigers-casey-mize-avoid-arbitration.html
Tigers, Casey Mize Avoid Arbitration.
MLBTR

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/s...on-agree-to-one-year-830000-deal/72288812007/
Tigers, Mize avoid arbitration, agree to one-year, $830,000 deal.
Detnews

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/...ation-with-1-year-deal-25-option/72288405007/
Detroit Tigers, Casey Mize agree to $830,000 salary in 2024 with club option for 2025.
Freep

https://www.mlive.com/tigers/2024/01/tigers-casey-mize-reach-deal-to-avoid-arbitration-hearing.html
Tigers, Casey Mize reach deal to avoid arbitration hearing.
Mlive
 
https://totallytigers.wordpress.com/2024/01/20/deeper-discussions-102/
DEEPER DISCUSSIONS.
Totally Tigers

The pitfalls of signing established free agents to long-term contracts has been a topic of discussion for years.

But now we?re seeing teams buy out the contracts of their younger players and signing extended long-term contracts with them before they reach free agency. Some Front Offices believe it?s a smarter move to lock in their players while they are young and presumably more productive.

However, the pitfall of this strategy is that these players, while good, don?t yet have an established track record. Who is to say that if they have 2-3 really good years at the beginning of their careers that it will continue long-term? Or that the needs of the team may change? Or that a top prospect comes up and is better than the one they signed to a long-term contract?

Should the Tigers be doing this? Should they be signing players to long-term contracts before they hit free agency and are still young?

Are there any Tigers currently whom the Tigers should buy out and extend?

Today?s blog addresses this dilemma and allows readers to share their thoughts in more detail. And hopefully, to actively engage with others by responding to their posts and creating back-and-forth discussion threads. The more the merrier!

For this one blog only, you?ve got 6 sentences max to share your thoughts. Of course, you can also respond to other readers and create back-and-forth discussions.

TT will supply the ammunition. One thought-provoking question. Several options provided. One hard choice to be selected. One vote.

Ready?

Should the Tigers buy out and extend the contracts of any young players?

1. Yes.

2. Yes, but there are no candidates this year.

3. No.

VOTE
 
Like many teams, the Detroit Tigers' off-season hasn't been terribly exciting. But there is a theme we can assign to it. Pitchers Behaving Badly.

First, ERod's continued attempt to renegotiate his contract after killing the Dodgers trade with less than an hour to go. Then, the year-long drama with Spencer Turnbull, the DFA and rumored lawsuit to get undeserved service time. And now.....

Casey Mize. Didn't pitch for 2 yrs but got fully paid w/raises. 2024 salary not enough to make him happy. Not budging on the $25K was a message by the Tigers as is the $10K esp. when Tigers offered a $3+ mill carrot for 2025 if he does well. Harris is changing the team culture.

Totally Tigers
 
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