Training Camp MEGA thread

[Mitchrapp]

Lol.

 

[cheeno]

If only we had Bell for that .25 of a game. 7.25 and 8.75 vs 7 and 9

I'm predicting we go 8.845 and 7.155 this year adjusted for normal health, concentrated injuries, fluke turnovers, weapons picks and true wins.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I'm predicting we go 8.845 and 7.155 this year adjusted for normal health, concentrated injuries, fluke turnovers, weapons picks and true wins.

You have faith.

I'm thinking 6.17455 and 9.82545

 

[cheeno]

You have faith.

I'm thinking 6.17455 and 9.82545

I was once a doubter like you. Then I added the extreme weather variable to my model. It adds nothing to multicollinearty while simultaneously improving your log odds ratio. I'll make a believer out of you yet Mitch.

 

[grandy]

I was once a doubter like you. Then I added the extreme weather variable to my model. It adds nothing to multicollinearty while simultaneously improving your log odds ratio. I'll make a believer out of you yet Mitch.

Did you account for the fractional degree variations within Ford Field? I heard a rumor that Stafford doesn't like it any cooler than 72.3?F.

 

[cheeno]

Did you account for the fractional degree variations within Ford Field? I heard a rumor that Stafford doesn't like it any cooler than 72.3?F.

lol.

 

[tomdalton22]

sounds like they are in mid season form


Rough day for the first-team offense during a two-minute drill situation. Defensive ends George Johnson and Darryl Tapp -- neither of whom is expected to be a first-team defender this season -- had touch sacks of Matthew Stafford. Stafford and the offense also went three-and-out on one possession with the quarterback being forced to throw away multiple passes when no one was open. Not surprisingly, Ndamukong Suh was also causing havoc up the middle. The second team fared better, scoring a touchdown and having Giorgio Tavecchio also make a 41-yard field goal to close practice. Jim Caldwell didn't seem too concerned, though, with any of the issues the first-team offense was having.

Why not? Well, the first-team offense still has Calvin Johnson, who made two exceptional catches Friday to show why he is the top receiver in the game. He grabbed a touchdown in 7-on-7 after the play was whistled dead, but the way he plucked it was exceptional. There was another play in which a Stafford pass looked like it was headed nowhere, then Johnson came out of his break, dove perfectly on the low ball and caught the ball in front of Chris Greenwood in 11-on-11. It was one of those plays that no defensive back can do anything about. And that has nothing to do with Greenwood, as other cornerbacks will attest to.

This was perhaps the best day for Detroit's kicking competitors thus far. Combined, Nate Freese and Tavecchio went 11-for-11, including Tavecchio's 41-yarder to end practice in a two-minute situation. Both also made field goals from 53 yards during a special teams section of practice. Meanwhile, Sam Martin is having a great camp punting. He continually boots punts of more than 65 yards and appears stronger than his rookie season already.

Among the defenders who stood out was rangy cornerback Mohammed Seisay. The Nebraska product, whom I wrote about more in depth here, is still a longshot to make the roster. However, with uncertainty in the final one or two cornerback spots, a strong camp could make him a consideration. He read a pass to tight end Eric Ebron perfectly during one-on-ones and broke the play up well. He wasn't the only defensive back to grab attention, as Darius Slay continued to have a strong camp, including a good pass breakup in the one-on-one session.

Mentioned Kevin Ogletree on Thursday and he put together another good practice, but Corey Fuller is starting to catch some notice as well among wide receivers. He caught a long pass in the two-minute drill from Dan Orlovsky after easily beating Greenwood. He also had nice catches during the receiver-vs.-defensive back session on both Nevin Lawson and Cassius Vaughn. He is a much more confident player than he was a season ago and looks like a completely different one -– an assessment he said he agreed with following practice.

 

[lgolfer]

sounds like they are in mid season form


Rough day for the first-team offense during a two-minute drill situation. Defensive ends George Johnson and Darryl Tapp -- neither of whom is expected to be a first-team defender this season -- had touch sacks of Matthew Stafford.

There was another play in which a Stafford pass looked like it was headed nowhere, then Johnson came out of his break, dove perfectly on the low ball and caught the ball in front of Chris Greenwood in 11-on-11.

Great...

 

[tonyballs]

Great...

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[mhughes0021]

?????

George Johnson is smoking our oline....whoever the hell George Johnson is.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Even on the CJ catches I have to worry about Stafford and him looking like the old Stafford.

" There was another play in which a Stafford pass looked like it was headed nowhere.."

Things like that have me worried.

 

[tonyballs]

George Johnson is smoking our oline....whoever the hell George Johnson is.

It's one day...lol. Larry Webster looked like a stud too for a practice. Is he the next Strahan? Calm down

 

[tonyballs]

Even on the CJ catches I have to worry about Stafford and him looking like the old Stafford.

" There was another play in which a Stafford pass looked like it was headed nowhere.."

Things like that have me worried.

Worried for what? You ever hear of the special connection between a WR and his QB? QB throws the ball and you're thinking , " where the hell is that going"? All of a sudden the WR comes out of nowhere and catches the ball. Stafford probably threw the ball only where Calvin could catch it. This isn't new....

 

[mhughes0021]

It's one day...lol. Larry Webster looked like a stud too for a practice. Is he the next Strahan? Calm down

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

 

[mhughes0021]

Worried for what? You ever hear of the special connection between a WR and his QB? QB throws the ball and you're thinking , " where the hell is that going"? All of a sudden the WR comes out of nowhere and catches the ball. Stafford probably threw the ball only where Calvin could catch it. This isn't new....

tony you can downplay it all you want....but its signs of showing exactly what I feared would happen under a new scheme and a new ocord with new weapons. Stafford doesn't get to play instinctive football anymore and ends up holding the ball longer than he did in previous years. Which ends up in more sacks from the likes of George Johnson or w/e the hell is name is lol. Ofcourse its not a problem on the first couple days of practice......but he doesn't have much time to get "comfortable" enough in a new system in order to play fast. Wouldn't be surprised if this is still a big problem throughout the preseason.....hopefully its fixed by week 1. If its not....it means more mistakes leading to more picks and holding the ball longer meaning more sacks.

 

[tonyballs]

tony you can downplay it all you want....but its signs of showing exactly what I feared would happen under a new scheme and a new ocord with new weapons. Stafford doesn't get to play instinctive football anymore and ends up holding the ball longer than he did in previous years. Which ends up in more sacks from the likes of George Johnson or w/e the hell is name is lol. Ofcourse its not a problem on the first couple days of practice......but he doesn't have much time to get "comfortable" enough in a new system in order to play fast. Wouldn't be surprised if this is still a big problem throughout the preseason.....hopefully its fixed by week 1. If its not....it means more mistakes leading to more picks and holding the ball longer meaning more sacks.

I'm not downplaying nothing...lol. It's Calvin, man. He's a fn alien. He makes catches humans can't.

As for Stafford? Lombardi is praising his efforts right now and can't believe how smart he is. He's way ahead of the curve by what Lombardi is saying. Sit back and watch this offense blossom into something special. I can't wait...

 

[motown1958]

Either this team comes together and turns into something great or its another year of watching a Lions team be terrible. At this point what does it matter. There is nothing that can be done at this point so you just have to hope for the best. The pieces are there for this team to be special but if the players don't play than it won't. But in the first week of training camp, learning a new scheme and trying to work things out I am just not going to be that worried about it. Offense is about timing and learning each other. Stafford has a great connection with Megatron and I think he can develop it with his other weapons. Just a wait and see game now but you can't get so tied up with every mistake in the first week.

 

[tonyballs]

Either this team comes together and turns into something great or its another year of watching a Lions team be terrible. At this point what does it matter. There is nothing that can be done at this point so you just have to hope for the best. The pieces are there for this team to be special but if the players don't play than it won't. But in the first week of training camp, learning a new scheme and trying to work things out I am just not going to be that worried about it. Offense is about timing and learning each other. Stafford has a great connection with Megatron and I think he can develop it with his other weapons. Just a wait and see game now but you can't get so tied up with every mistake in the first week.

Exactly. Goes both ways though. Notice how when a so called nobody makes a play on this team? It's automatically that the other player had to have been shit. Not that the player who's ballin' may be just a good football player...lol.

I don't get too caught up, but it's nice hearing some positives. Stafford and this offense is going to be fun to watch when it's all said and done.

 

[tonyballs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

Heed your own words.

 

[mhughes0021]

were talkin about George Johnson...smoking our oline. George. not peppers....not Julius pepper. not peppers. George Johnson. George. George Johnson is smoking our oline.