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2022 Off-Season

Ownership has to eat that money. Coaching contract length means alot. It would take an Urban Meyer scandal for them to drop Campbell before 4 years

Holmes didn't hire a fall guy lol.

This is a good defensive coaching staff and Ben Johnson is a good mind that the Bengals keep trying to get. Brunell and Randle El and Staley and Fraley have all played the position and know plenty. Shepphard, Pleasant and Glenn too on defense. Wash is a vet Dline coach too that had success in Jacksonville

We'll see how they develop them. They did a good job with the young guys last year, got really good things out of a bust in Harris, turned Walker around

It was a 3 win team due to first year in the rebuild, some crazy last second kicks, dead cap from all the Quinn contracts/Stafford trade and all the injuries to basically the best veterans (Decker, Ragnow, Okwara, Flowers, Hock etc)

I'll take 3 wins to get KT and pick 34 and 66

Cut the crap?Holmes had nothing to do w the DC hire. He was hired less than a week after Holmes got the job. DC is all Spielman and Woods, we all know that. It won?t surprise me though when they blame the brother for DCs failures and keep Spielman and Woods in their current roles.
 
Who quit on them last year?

The majority of the vets on the team?Hockenson, Flowers, Collins, Williams.

I can see the majority trying to argue Hock but you can?t argue the other 3 gave up and wanted out!
 
The majority of the vets on the team?Hockenson, Flowers, Collins, Williams.

I can see the majority trying to argue Hock but you can?t argue the other 3 gave up and wanted out!

Only Collins. Who was a a Patricia guy and has done the same thing before. Flowers was all class and got hurt. Lions cut him, he didn't walk. Flowers just had the back end of his monster deal so made sense to cut him for cap space especially after injuries. Nick Williams took a pay cut to stay and is now a FA
 
Cut the crap?Holmes had nothing to do w the DC hire. He was hired less than a week after Holmes got the job. DC is all Spielman and Woods, we all know that. It won?t surprise me though when they blame the brother for DCs failures and keep Spielman and Woods in their current roles.

Holmes I am sure had a list and plan in interviews. They all work in collaboration and Woods is out of the football side, only the business side of things

Holmes and Campbell get 4 years to fix it
 
Only Collins. Who was a a Patricia guy and has done the same thing before. Flowers was all class and got hurt. Lions cut him, he didn't walk. Flowers just had the back end of his monster deal so made sense to cut him for cap space especially after injuries. Nick Williams took a pay cut to stay and is now a FA

Class act and got hurt my ass. He knew we were bums and wasn?t going to suit up for this team last year.
 
Class act and got hurt my ass. He knew we were bums and wasn?t going to suit up for this team last year.

He did suit up for this team. Check what he did for the community and the Lions statement when they released him. Far from someone who gave up on the team lol
 
Holmes I am sure had a list and plan in interviews. They all work in collaboration and Woods is out of the football side, only the business side of things

Holmes and Campbell get 4 years to fix it

I?m sure Holmes did have a plan. That?s typically what you need going into an interview!

We?ve all seen how the NFL coaching search is conducted. I?m sure DC knew he had the job weeks before Holmes was even hired. Campbell is a perfect example of white privilege. He was hired to get fans like you excited on sound bites and maybe a crack at Hard Knocks. He was not hired because of his qualifications. He?s a puppet and playing the role as ?The Dude? very well.
 
He did suit up for this team. Check what he did for the community and the Lions statement when they released him. Far from someone who gave up on the team lol

You feed into any and everything this organization tells you. We know that about you. Nothing wrong w it. I like you LKP, we need homers like you!
 
You feed into any and everything this organization tells you. We know that about you. Nothing wrong w it. I like you LKP, we need homers like you!

Ok you are the real insider on Flowers quitting lol. Did you hide in the towel bin?
 
Ok you are the real insider on Flowers quitting lol. Did you hide in the towel bin?

Call it what you want?the fact is the majority of vets didn?t play half the season+ and bounced when giving the opportunity. No pay cuts to stay w the team, no re-signing of the vets, just straight bounced. They wanted nothing to do w this coaching staff.
 
Call it what you want?the fact is the majority of vets didn?t play half the season+ and bounced when giving the opportunity. No pay cuts to stay w the team, no re-signing of the vets, just straight bounced. They wanted nothing to do w this coaching staff.

Walker and Harris returned. Flowers had a high cap hit so the team cut him. Collins is a know lazy player that does this to go back to the Patriots for a 3rd time now.

Hock was playing through the injury. The team easily could have shut him down for a reason at that point

They love this coaching staff. Everyone raves about it. Flowers bought in but didnt fit and was too costly. And if he wants to bounce, well we wanted him gone anyway. We want Nick Williams gone. We wanted Collins gone after those 2 atrocious games.

Lions can start winning some in 2022 and attract even more free agents. It's still a build through the draft plan
 
If this coaching staff doesn?t tank than they f?n suck! They won 3-games and had every veteran on the team quit on them last year.

You?re a silly guy LKP. We all know the contract length means absolutely nothing. DC is nothing more than a fall guy. He?s here for 2 maybe 3 years total before being fired. He might be the reason why we went w Goff, anyone in their right mind knows we can?t have DC and Burnell developing a young QB.

You got it all figured out. If they lose (tank) then they're doing the right thing.

If they try to win or actually put together a six or seven win season, then they suck.

What's wrong with this picture?
 
You got it all figured out. If they lose (tank) then they're doing the right thing.

If they try to win or actually put together a six or seven win season, then they suck.

What's wrong with this picture?

You misread my quote. I responded to someone that said this coaching staff does not tank.

What I meant is if they aren?t purposely tanking, then they must suck.
 
You misread my quote. I responded to someone that said this coaching staff does not tank.

What I meant is if they aren?t purposely tanking, then they must suck.

They developed players. Plenty got hurt and Lions need more talent. They don't suck as a coaching staff. At least not proven yet. Time will tell but Glenn is a great DC
 
well, if they end up being really good like the 3 in the article, they will probably want to get paid after 3 years.

They have less leverage in year 3 though with that 5th year option on the table. And more time to work out a deal
 
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