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Couches, deadly inside and out

MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Don't get me wrong, I've had a venison roast before and I loved it - I just don't get the joy in killing it.

"There's a lot of things you don't get it. Like pussy, and respect."

Sorry I'm watching how high.
 
Maize&Cheese304 said:
Ever heard of a dog going and hiding when its about to die? Or staying around a person when they're ill. Obviously they do understand death.

Animals know sickness and only a few are aware of death, but even that's up for debate. Only in the case that the can potentially mourn the loss of another. Here's a great article on it:

http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2008/08/do-animals-understand-death-do-humans.html

"others have argued that foisting human emotions onto animals is unscientific. Just because animals sometimes behave like us does not mean that the same complex cognitive reasoning underlies these behaviours."

Also, I love the British spelling of behaviours.
 
lostleader said:
Red and Guilty said:
Yeah, a large garden can be economical. I just think a small one is only going to save you money if you're really lucky and have great soil and no pests.

instead of using pesticides (and I do sparingly) buy a bag of lime and dust your plants. It works and its cheap. a 50 pound bag will last a long time and works just like 7 dust

Chili powder works well too.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Red and Guilty said:
Our garden is fancy. I built tiered boxes, had a truckload of dirt delivered, our hose winds on a crank in a box, there's a composter, beans grow on these artistic metal obelisk structures. It's her hobby, she likes having it pretty.

But that's not the point, just the seeds and plants run us about $50 a year, and if you don't use insecticide, you'd better get everything else right, and that costs money too (like adding peat to the soil). Bugs are probably worse in NC.

So how many plants do you get for $50 and how much produce do you get? Because if you have 50 plants; that would likely be a great deal, heck, even 25 plants would be a good deal considering most yield a ton of produce all summer long.

If you count the seeds we get a ton of plants, but only if we start them inside in the little terrarium thing. I'm sure we clear 100 plants (the garden is small, but we get 2-3 plantings a year depending on which bed you're talking about) so $50 might have been low. Our first year we started things outside and we got almost nothing because animals and bugs ate most of it. Something out here loves seedlings.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
lostleader said:
instead of using pesticides (and I do sparingly) buy a bag of lime and dust your plants. It works and its cheap. a 50 pound bag will last a long time and works just like 7 dust

Chili powder works well too.

So does planting hot peppers around the garden. For those with a small garden, plant marigolds around the edges and it will keep the bugs out. This is no shit, just make sure they are all around the garden. My wife talked me into trying it and it worked great and marigolds are cheap!
 
Red and Guilty said:
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
So how many plants do you get for $50 and how much produce do you get? Because if you have 50 plants; that would likely be a great deal, heck, even 25 plants would be a good deal considering most yield a ton of produce all summer long.

If you count the seeds we get a ton of plants, but only if we start them inside in the little terrarium thing. I'm sure we clear 100 plants (the garden is small, but we get 2-3 plantings a year depending on which bed you're talking about) so $50 might have been low. Our first year we started things outside and we got almost nothing because animals and bugs ate most of it. Something out here loves seedlings.

Deer, you need me to help. I am a Deer Herd Reduction Specialist.
 
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
lostleader said:
instead of using pesticides (and I do sparingly) buy a bag of lime and dust your plants. It works and its cheap. a 50 pound bag will last a long time and works just like 7 dust

Chili powder works well too.

We've tried both. (And chili powder is expensive.) We finally broke down and started adding a chemical fertilizer and that helped a lot, but we're still losing about half of it. I've still got most of a bag of lime in the garage, maybe we'll try lime+fertilizer next year, but without fertilizer, we didn't see the benefit. The other thing we've been talking about is dumping some milky spore. It's expensive, but you only have to do it once a decade. Japanese beetles weren't bad this year, but they're on some sort of cycle, and when they're bad, they do a ton of damage to our garden and our landscaping.
 
lostleader said:
MAIZEandBLUE09 said:
Chili powder works well too.

So does planting hot peppers around the garden. For those with a small garden, plant marigolds around the edges and it will keep the bugs out. This is no shit, just make sure they are all around the garden. My wife talked me into trying it and it worked great and marigolds are cheap!

I've done the marigold border too. No dice. Wife was really happy though because I planted them as a surprise.
 
lostleader said:
Red and Guilty said:
If you count the seeds we get a ton of plants, but only if we start them inside in the little terrarium thing. I'm sure we clear 100 plants (the garden is small, but we get 2-3 plantings a year depending on which bed you're talking about) so $50 might have been low. Our first year we started things outside and we got almost nothing because animals and bugs ate most of it. Something out here loves seedlings.

Deer, you need me to help. I am a Deer Herd Reduction Specialist.

We've got a fence and I've never seen deer in the yard. It's squirrels and rabbits. But the bugs are the worst.
 
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