Game 14: Lions @ Bills Thread

[tonyballs]

I get he's not working with much now, but had a running game, elite #1 wr play today and a good defense.

Earlier in the season he had top oline protection, 3 good options, one of the best YPC support at RB and he still struggled.

Ya, and we left 4 points on the field because of shitty STs play. Lost by 1. You're smart....do the math.

He has struggled. You're right. I never denied that but his defense was pure garbage as well. It's a TEAM effort winning and losing games in the NFL for the most part...

 

[tonyballs]

Maybe the talent isn't the same with Tate gone and our RB out but 60 yards? And last week? He need s to do much more.

Not with what he's working with. Hey, you're the boxscore king. Go check out those beauty stats and tell me that those WRs and TEs are even roster worthy. I'll save you the trouble....THEY'RE NOT. They're pure garbage but I forgot, Stafford is supposed to turn guys like Andy Jones and Powell into superstars overnight lol. Lay off the drugs

 

[tonyballs]

Why can't he say he needs to do more, or he needed to make more plays - or I wasn't good enough. 60 lousy yards in the 2nd half.

That would make all the pain go away then? If Stafford used the word HE instead of WE? Dude, stfu and stop lol

 

[Mitchrapp]

Not with what he's working with. Hey, you're the boxscore king. Go check out those beauty stats and tell me that those WRs and TEs are even roster worthy. I'll save you the trouble....THEY'RE NOT. They're pure garbage but I forgot, Stafford is supposed to turn guys like Andy Jones and Powell into superstars overnight lol. Lay off the drugs

You always say don't compare him to Brees but he does. And what about when we had Tate or Johnson who by the way the best RB we've had in some time. The defense has been playing better regardless the bomb they gave up. Good QB are suppose to make them better. At least a little bit. I might blame Matt S. more than Jim Bob but I blame Quinn more than anyone.

 

[Mitchrapp]

That would make all the pain go away then? If Stafford used the word HE instead of WE? Dude, stfu and stop lol

Take some responsibility. Go down with the ship, take it all even if it wasn't.

 

[mhughes0021]

Outlier: Lost to Jets, SF and Buffalo. Ouch.

And we beat all teams that start with P. Packers, patriots, Panthers. If only we played the pears, pets and powboys.... we would be good.

 

[mhughes0021]

Every 3rd and more than 7.. Stafford throws it max 3 yards. That is the definition of suck. You should go 22/29 when 90%of the time you throw ir less than 3 yards. Fuck... you should be 100% if you throw it less than 3 yards that much. The offense won't look better until cooter is gone, marvin and kerryon come back, we get a pass catching te that Stafford won't use, and we get a competent 3rd wr. That offense can win games if our defense improves.

 

[brewer229]

You have former packers players, experts, writers and fans questioning Aaron Rodgers because he's having a poor season. Wondering what is wrong with him. ARs current season would be Stafford's 2nd best season ever.

 

[tomdalton22]

You have former packers players, experts, writers and fans questioning Aaron Rodgers because he's having a poor season. Wondering what is wrong with him. ARs current season would be Stafford's 2nd best season ever.

There's only one person on this board that compares Matt to AR

 

[tonyballs]

Take some responsibility. Go down with the ship, take it all even if it wasn't.

He does take responsibility you fucking dolt. Jesus Christ lol

 

[brewer229]

There's only one person on this board that compares Matt to AR

I'm just showing the expectations of an elite QB vs an average one. If Stafford played like Aaron this year, everyone would be a lot happier in Detroit. But in Green Bay they are wondering if it's the beginning of the end.

 

[tonyballs]

I'm just showing the expectations of an elite QB vs an average one. If Stafford played like Aaron this year, everyone would be a lot happier in Detroit. But in Green Bay they are wondering if it's the beginning of the end.

Aaron Rodgers is a top 5 QB of all time. Step back into reality for 5 seconds. Matt Stafford is NOT Aaron Rodgers...

 

[dubbsco]

Aaron Rodgers is a top 5 QB of all time. Step back into reality for 5 seconds. Matt Stafford is NOT Aaron Rodgers...

I get that, I just think it's hard to accept this dude, even after 10 years, just can't scratch that level. You can pay someone a lot less to get similar production out of Stafford.

As I said before, it just sucks to watch other franchises have young, exciting QBs. I think it is time for them to look at using a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a QB. Maybe not this year, but definitely next.

 

[brewer229]

Aaron Rodgers is a top 5 QB of all time. Step back into reality for 5 seconds. Matt Stafford is NOT Aaron Rodgers...

I know, he's Andy Dalton.

 

[Mitchrapp]

I know, he's Andy Dalton.

That's funny but he actually is Andy Dalton. Better some years, worse others but basically the same.

 

[tonyballs]

I get that, I just think it's hard to accept this dude, even after 10 years, just can't scratch that level. You can pay someone a lot less to get similar production out of Stafford.

As I said before, it just sucks to watch other franchises have young, exciting QBs. I think it is time for them to look at using a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a QB. Maybe not this year, but definitely next.

I have no issues with drafting a QB but not in the 2nd or 3rd. Too many needs IMO. They draft a QB high then that kid better play...

 

[dubbsco]

I have no issues with drafting a QB but not in the 2nd or 3rd. Too many needs IMO. They draft a QB high then that kid better play...

Maybe not this year. But if they do not make the playoffs next year, then yes, they really need to take a 2nd or 3rd round QB. Because in 2020, his contract becomes much more manageable and a realistic target to move.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Maybe not this year. But if they do not make the playoffs next year, then yes, they really need to take a 2nd or 3rd round QB. Because in 2020, his contract becomes much more manageable and a realistic target to move.

QB don't get moved a lot. Certainly not traded. Over the years it's rare if you're a starter anyways and have had some success.

 

[tonyballs]

Maybe not this year. But if they do not make the playoffs next year, then yes, they really need to take a 2nd or 3rd round QB. Because in 2020, his contract becomes much more manageable and a realistic target to move.

QB class is hot garbage this yr. I hope they don't grab one in the next draft...

 

[brewer229]

Patriots have drafted a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round 4 times since Brady was the starter.