Game 3: Broncos @ Lions *Sunday Night* Thread

[JScottWriter]

I wonder where our resident village idiot is? He must still be breaking down the game film trying to find enough excuses for a "true win"

Who cares? Can't we just enjoy the board without useless arguing with him?

 

[boogerlovejoy]

See you agree with me. That is the part the requires accuracy.


Also it's worth pointing out Staff also had one of his worst years (20 TDs and 17 INTs) when he was allowed to freelance.

Don't just tell one side of the story......he also had his best year (41 TDs and 16 INTs), too!

16 INT's in 700 throws is damn good, IMO.

 

[JScottWriter]

This stat is not a joke.....on his current pace.....if Joique Bell got 250 carries this year, he would end up with....








275 yards.
On 250 carries!!

When he was getting the bulk of the carries(or any carries in the 2nd half) it shows how clueless our coaches are.

 

[boogerlovejoy]

Who cares? Can't we just enjoy the board without useless arguing with him?

It's actually pretty good football discussion, ain't it???

 

[JScottWriter]

It's actually pretty good football discussion, ain't it???

Yeah I am actually enjoying the back and forth today. A hell of a lot better than actually watching the game.

 

[dubbsco]

Lol yeah it is not bad today actually. We don't have to worry about his non-stop ridiculous crap.

 

[brewer229]

Don't just tell one side of the story......he also had his best year (41 TDs and 16 INTs), too!

16 INT's in 700 throws is damn good, IMO.

I didn't think I was. Tony said he put up big numbers when he freelanced..which I assume he was talking about the 41 and 16 year. I was just pointing out the next year, with the same style, he dropped to 20 and 17.


I don't have an opposition to him going back to that.However with Staff there is no sure recipe to success, you can win with him being a manager, you can win with him being a gunslinger. However you can also lose with him playing either style. I think he is just too inconsistent regardless of the style to count on him. At least it would be more entertaining as a gunslinger.

 

[tomdalton22]

I didn't think I was. Tony said he put up big numbers when he freelanced..which I assume he was talking about the 41 and 16 year. I was just pointing out the next year, with the same style, he dropped to 20 and 17.


I don't have an opposition to him going back to that.However with Staff there is no sure recipe to success, you can win with him being a manager, you can win with him being a gunslinger. However you can also lose with him playing either style. I think he is just too inconsistent regardless of the style to count on him. At least it would be more entertaining as a gunslinger.

with the current OL...he wouldn't have time to be a gunslinger...they are bad!

 

[boogerlovejoy]

I didn't think I was. Tony said he put up big numbers when he freelanced..which I assume he was talking about the 41 and 16 year. I was just pointing out the next year, with the same style, he dropped to 20 and 17.


I don't have an opposition to him going back to that.However with Staff there is no sure recipe to success, you can win with him being a manager, you can win with him being a gunslinger. However you can also lose with him playing either style. I think he is just too inconsistent regardless of the style to count on him. At least it would be more entertaining as a gunslinger.

Agreed. However, as the defense has improved dramatically since '11......putting up points seems like it would make us pretty damn tough to beat.

I made a point in a thread earlier that in the last 20 games.....the OVERALL scoring average per team is 22.58 pts per game. We have hit that 6 times. We are 5-1 in those games.....the L coming this year in SD. Not 5-1 when we hit 35 or some BS like that.....as I assume most teams win most of their games they score over 35.......but 5-1 when we just score the NFL average. AVERAGE. And we only score more than the NLF average 30% of the time.

PA
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Defense wins championships......but a good offense helps quite a bit!!!!

 

[tonyballs]

See you agree with me. That is the part the requires accuracy.


Also it's worth pointing out Staff also had one of his worst years (20 TDs and 17 INTs) when he was allowed to freelance.

No, I don't agree with you....not even close.

And it's also worth noting that he's had his best years when freelancing.

 

[tonyballs]

Favre wasn't just some simply an ol' gunslinger who zipped it all over the field. He had attributes that Stafford severely lacks, the biggest one is pocket awareness and mobility. When a play broke down, Favre knew exactly what to do. Our guy holds onto the ball like it owes him money.

For the 100th time.....Stafford isn't Favre, we know this. They just have a similar style. Staff has been compared to the man since his college days.

 

[tonyballs]

I didn't think I was. Tony said he put up big numbers when he freelanced..which I assume he was talking about the 41 and 16 year. I was just pointing out the next year, with the same style, he dropped to 20 and 17.


I don't have an opposition to him going back to that.However with Staff there is no sure recipe to success, you can win with him being a manager, you can win with him being a gunslinger. However you can also lose with him playing either style. I think he is just too inconsistent regardless of the style to count on him. At least it would be more entertaining as a gunslinger.

I can live with that.

 

[Mitchrapp]

No, I don't agree with you....not even close.

And it's also worth noting that he's had his best years when freelancing.

1 year. You mean he had his 1 best year when freelancing. How about those other years 2012 and 2013?

 

[tonyballs]

1 year. You mean he had his 1 best year when freelancing. How about those other years 2012 and 2013?

He still threw for more yards and more TDs though. That's my point. He looked comfortable. This offense has no guts to it....time to change it.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He still threw for more yards and more TDs though. That's my point. He looked comfortable. This offense has no guts to it....time to change it.

2012 was 20 TD and 17 INT. Arguably his worse season. 2013 wasn't all that much better.

 

[tonyballs]

2012 was 20 TD and 17 INT. Arguably his worse season. 2013 wasn't all that much better.

But his yards were big. And 2013 he threw for 29 TDs and almost 4700 yds. My point is (and its totally fucking obvious you can't grasp it) is that he seemed more comfortable a few years back. This offense now doesn't seem to fit him....

Do you get it?

 

[dubbsco]

How exactly do you judge the comfort level of a QB? Because in the last four weeks of 2013, Baltimore and NY especially, he played like horse bleep. I wouldn't consider that comfortable football.

Trust me, I know a lot needs to be said about the poor coaching. I get that. But comfort level or no, Stafford has shown the exact same characteristics he's always shown.

 

[Mitchrapp]

But his yards were big. And 2013 he threw for 29 TDs and almost 4700 yds. My point is (and its totally fucking obvious you can't grasp it) is that he seemed more comfortable a few years back. This offense now doesn't seem to fit him....

Do you get it?

Yards? Wow. It was his worst year, that's obvious. Who gives a fk about yards? Who care if he's more comfortable if he still stinks. He'll make a great throw than make 2-3 bad ones. Good QB's don't do that..

At first I thought you just liked to argue now I realize you're just dumb.

 

[brewer229]

Stafford's output (in terms of per attempt) really didn't change from 2012 to 2013 to 2014. His best TD to INT rate was 2014 among those three years. It was the 2nd best YPA.

He really isn't good in either system, the numbers just look a bit more pretty in the system that gives him more attempts. He still is one of the least efficient QBs in the league regardless of what system he plays.

 

[Mitchrapp]

It's crazy that the idiots on this board can't see he was a 1-season wonder. And still believe.. Anyone ever thought he dings and dumps because he can't hit the deep ball anymore? Anyone think the 2011 was just because it was year 1, as in full season, and eventually teams figured him out?