I just voted.

[Michchamp]

Don't forget hugs.

true story: when I met my wife, her facebook picture was of her hugging a tree.

I thought she looked terrible in the pic though. she had been jogging, and the way the tree pushed up against her jacket made her huge.

 

[biggunsbob]

That's an excuse..

Bullcrap.. Your guy Bush gets a coffer with a surplus.. Obama gets
Dingbats mess but keep dreaming Obama is terrible..

 

[biggunsbob]

Did someone say we shouldn't cut down any trees? Or that cutting down any trees was bad?

Kawaup's liberal tree hugging post a few paged back... I just pointed out how
important the long sticks can be

Damn great.. they are all different.. different angles.. They never complain when we burn
them and make paper and all sorts of furniture they are of great use...
When done properly and not over culled...

 

[Sbee]

Speaking of feeble minded, when will people stop with this "pot is harmless" nonsense? It's so much worse for you than smoking and if it becomes as prolific as alcohol the public health implications are enormous.

And on the minimum wage, what good does it do to artificially raise wages if all that results in is a commensurate artificial increase in prices? Great, now we have higher paying jobs with no increase in purchasing power but a bunch of folks are tossed into the unemployment line. Brilliant.

That's nonsense, there are little to no risks for moderate use, by that logic sugar and butter should be illegal too. health and dependency concerns are minor when you compare it to alcohol or tobacco.

when you look at all of the factors, health concerns, the impact on society, legal issues, the argument certainly favors legalization. like i pointed out, in 2012 there were over 650,000 marijuana arrests, compared to 250,000 for cocaine or heroin. pot arrests also are disproportionate for young black men when usage numbers are similar across racial groups.

as for the minimum wage, would you rather have your tax dollars subsidize the standard of living of low wage workers or actually pay the true cost of the goods and services you use. McDonalds doesn't pay their employees enough to live on but I supplement it through SNAP and other programs....and I never even eat there. let people pay the true costs of good and services from profitable corporations. I don't see the argument against this.

 

[Spartanmack]

I don't mind paying higher taxes to help people out...There is nothing entitled in what I say
Or maybe make affordable insurance available to everyone... Not the ACA that the GOP Gutted...
Right out of the conservatives play book.... Government is all evil... Give me a break..

Library's.
police
fire dept.
Roads.
Fema
Homeland
Miltary
ect
ect
ect..

maybe not, but there is no shortage of entitlement rhetoric and policy that comes from the people you vote for. Conservatives aren't against schools, libraries, police, fire depts, etc. We're against wasteful spending, the teacher's union holding back education reform, outrageous pensions on top of above market salaries virtually everywhere in the public sector, cronyism, etc, etc. And while we're at it, what have I said that makes you so certain that I hate poor people? Nothing, but it's a convenient way for you to be dismissive and convince yourself that conservatives are bad people.

 

[biggunsbob]

Love this answer. Thank you trees. :*)

No, the Republican's in Congress did not try to work with him. By the same token, the Democratic leadership in the Senate rarely let any legislation hit the floor for a vote. They all doubled-down on grid-lock, and that was stupid crap. I admire many an older Democrat when compromise really did happen. Very much disliked Ted Kennedy's politics, but the man knew how to govern and compromise when necessary. A pox I say on all incumbents who won't ever compromise. Good 'ol boys on both sides of that aisle that need to fade away.

I can't help that I am conservative, it is how I was raised, and it is part of me, now - I do see your point, for the most part - but you present them with such venom, I have trouble answering any other way.

. . . but I will work on it.

Well I am sure The right stopped the left more then the left stopping the right.
But I would have to look up the exact numbers because maybe its close..
So we need a third party..

 

[sggatecl]

Did you not read the rest..that's just being dumb. And maybe dumb isn't the right word here but these past two years have been awful. Reminds me of Bush's last two years.

I did read the rest but you included something that was irrelevant so I called it out. And while I think dumb was the wrong word, I agree that these last two years have been pretty awful. Approval ratings are very applicable there, it is very reminiscent of W's last two.

 

[biggunsbob]

maybe not, but there is no shortage of entitlement rhetoric and policy that comes from the people you vote for. Conservatives aren't against schools, libraries, police, fire depts, etc. We're against wasteful spending, the teacher's union holding back education reform, outrageous pensions on top of above market salaries virtually everywhere in the public sector, cronyism, etc, etc. And while we're at it, what have I said that makes you so certain that I hate poor people? Nothing, but it's a convenient way for you to be dismissive and convince yourself that conservatives are bad people.

Like the republicans never over spend...Give me a break..
If education reform means more private schools or vouchers for private and or charter schools I just will not get behind that.. They are just another divide for the haves against the less fortunate ones..
So we pay taxes for all of the above but we cannot pay taxes for health care for all..
I see..

 

[biggunsbob]

Amazing what Obama has done with the congress he has had to work with...

1. We've now had 63 straight months of economic expansion.
2. We are currently enjoying the longest period of private sector job creation in American history.
3. Unemployment has dropped from 10.1% in October of 2009 to 5.9% and projected to reach 5.4% by summer of 2015.
4. The stock market continues to set new records since President Obama has been in office.
5. The Federal budget deficit is shrinking. It’s been reduced by two-thirds since 2009.
6. Under President Obama, spending has increased only 1.4% annually, the lowest rate since Eisenhower was president.
7. For 95% of American taxpayers, income taxes are lower now than just about any time in the previous 50 years.
8.Our dependence on foreign oil has shrunk due to record domestic oil production and improved fuel efficiency standards.
9. Our dependence on foreign oil has shrunk due to record domestic oil production and improved fuel efficiency standards.
10. The Affordable Care Act has added years to the life of Medicare.
11. Since passage of the Affordable Care Act, we are seeing the slowest rate of increase in healthcare costs since 1960.
12. We currently have fewer soldiers, sailors and airmen in war zones than any time in over 10 years.
13. There have been zero successful attacks by al Qaeda on US soil since Obama became president.
14. We now successfully catch and deport more illegal immigrants than ever before.

I know he committed to much money to save the honey Bees.. That damn over spender

 

[Spartanmack]

That's nonsense, there are little to no risks for moderate use, by that logic sugar and butter should be illegal too. health and dependency concerns are minor when you compare it to alcohol or tobacco.

This is just false. Smoking marijuana is so much worse for you than tobacco so if smoking tobacco in moderation is bad for your health, how can you be foolish enough to think smoking marijuana in moderation is not?

when you look at all of the factors, health concerns, the impact on society, legal issues, the argument certainly favors legalization. like i pointed out, in 2012 there were over 650,000 marijuana arrests, compared to 250,000 for cocaine or heroin. pot arrests also are disproportionate for young black men when usage numbers are similar across racial groups.

How many of those arrests are for people who were actually dealing vs. simple possession? are the numbers for dealing similar across racial groups? I bet they're not even close. I'm sure you can put some kinda spin on that to show that minorities are being kept poor by the Republicans and therefore have no choice but to deal drugs so you can keep your racism narrative alive but the reality is, drugs and drug related crime including marijuana are a bigger problem for the poor than for middle class and the wealthy regardless of what usage numbers say.

as for the minimum wage, would you rather have your tax dollars subsidize the standard of living of low wage workers or actually pay the true cost of the goods and services you use. McDonalds doesn't pay their employees enough to live on but I supplement it through SNAP and other programs....and I never even eat there. let people pay the true costs of good and services from profitable corporations. I don't see the argument against this.

This is unbelievable. Are you saying you're tax dollars are subsidizing McDonald's because they don't overpay their employees? That is beyond ridiculous. Wages are determined by the value of the work, not by what it costs to live in a given society. Every economy has low skill jobs like that - are you saying we should force employers to pay enough so that people can make a career of being a cashier or scooping ice cream? It's amazing to me that you can't see how these policies destroyed manufacturing jobs in this country, now you want low skill employers to foot the bill? What do you think is going to happen to those jobs? Shocking.

 

[tinselwolverine]

That's nonsense, there are little to no risks for moderate use, by that logic sugar and butter should be illegal too. health and dependency concerns are minor when you compare it to alcohol or tobacco.

when you look at all of the factors, health concerns, the impact on society, legal issues, the argument certainly favors legalization. like i pointed out, in 2012 there were over 650,000 marijuana arrests, compared to 250,000 for cocaine or heroin. pot arrests also are disproportionate for young black men when usage numbers are similar across racial groups.

as for the minimum wage, would you rather have your tax dollars subsidize the standard of living of low wage workers or actually pay the true cost of the goods and services you use. McDonalds doesn't pay their employees enough to live on but I supplement it through SNAP and other programs....and I never even eat there. let people pay the true costs of good and services from profitable corporations. I don't see the argument against this.

If my income goes up because of minimum wage increase, I'm gonna "get legal" and use the extra money to smoke the relatively harmless pot...

 

[tinselwolverine]

Every economy has low skill jobs like that - are you saying we should force employers to pay enough so that people can make a career of being a cashier or scooping ice cream?

Hmmmm....

Actually, in a small business, the Randyan entrepreneurial hero is often the cashier.

That's because he/she doesn't want the ice cream scooping cocksucker he/she pays minimum wage skimming off the till.

 

[Spartanmack]

Like the republicans never over spend...Give me a break..
If education reform means more private schools or vouchers for private and or charter schools I just will not get behind that.. They are just another divide for the haves against the less fortunate ones..
So we pay taxes for all of the above but we cannot pay taxes for health care for all..
I see..

I never said they don't, but if you've been paying attention, I'm not defending big government Republicans. I find it interesting that can't "get behind" vouchers but you repeatedly defend politicians who kowtow to the teachers' union while refusing to send their kids to public schools. You sound like those people in Ferguson who say "we don't care what the autopsy, eyewitnesses and the physical evidence say, if the cop isn't tried and convicted, we're gonna riot".

 

[Spartanmack]

Hmmmm....

Actually, in a small business, the Randyan entrepreneurial hero is often the cashier.

That's because he/she doesn't want the ice cream scooping cocksucker he/she pays minimum wage skimming off the till.

True but McDonald's, etc aren't exactly small businesses. And since you bring it up, I often don't want the ice cream scooping cocksucker scooping my ice cream, but I don't always have a choice, so I can see why the owner doesn't want him/her anywhere near the till...

 

[tinselwolverine]

True but McDonald's, etc aren't exactly small businesses. And since you bring it up, I often don't want the ice cream scooping cocksucker scooping my ice cream, but I don't always have a choice, so I can see why the owner doesn't want him/her anywhere near the till...

I like to eat at Subways.

All the ones I go to are franchises; I don't have time right now to look it up, because I have to get out and help Betty White take care of the animals and teach the kids about them, but I think franchise is the standard Subway model.

Anyway, the ones I go to, the owners are usually manning the register.

 

[biggunsbob]

This is just false. Smoking marijuana is so much worse for you than tobacco so if smoking tobacco in moderation is bad for your health, how can you be foolish enough to think smoking marijuana in moderation is not?



How many of those arrests are for people who were actually dealing vs. simple possession? are the numbers for dealing similar across racial groups? I bet they're not even close. I'm sure you can put some kinda spin on that to show that minorities are being kept poor by the Republicans and therefore have no choice but to deal drugs so you can keep your racism narrative alive but the reality is, drugs and drug related crime including marijuana are a bigger problem for the poor than for middle class and the wealthy regardless of what usage numbers say.



This is unbelievable. Are you saying you're tax dollars are subsidizing McDonald's because they don't overpay their employees? That is beyond ridiculous. Wages are determined by the value of the work, not by what it costs to live in a given society. Every economy has low skill jobs like that - are you saying we should force employers to pay enough so that people can make a career of being a cashier or scooping ice cream? It's amazing to me that you can't see how these policies destroyed manufacturing jobs in this country, now you want low skill employers to foot the bill? What do you think is going to happen to those jobs? Shocking.

It's ridicules not to pay hamburger flippers at McDonalds a livable wage.. Those fry workers work their ass off for that billion dollar corporation... So yeah they can pay workers more. not everyone is smart enough to go to college you nitwit... It amazes me how you fail to see that corporation tax breaks are at a record High.. But you just want more for Big Business.. Sweet.. I guess tax breaks are just not enough for you..

 

[Gulo Blue]

If a significant portion of your workforce is on assistance, that's a form of subsidy. It's cheating the ideas that make capitalism good.

 

[biggunsbob]

I never said they don't, but if you've been paying attention, I'm not defending big government Republicans. I find it interesting that can't "get behind" vouchers but you repeatedly defend politicians who kowtow to the teachers' union while refusing to send their kids to public schools. You sound like those people in Ferguson who say "we don't care what the autopsy, eyewitnesses and the physical evidence say, if the cop isn't tried and convicted, we're gonna riot".

Don't even try and change the subject.. That is such bullshit... The republicans could care less about public education you are doing the same thing blame everything bad on Unions when in fact without unions workers would have no protection what so ever verses Big corporations.. There is corruption in a lot of places.. Your using the same playbook that you claim I am...Give me a break...

 

[biggunsbob]

Yesterday was a old foggy vote.. Young people stayed away in droves like they always do in midterms..

 

[biggunsbob]

republicans had more money for house candidates.. senate candidates was pretty even unless this is old numbers..

https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/