Lions cut Burleson

[LKP]

It's more than that. They know we don't have a tradition of winning, year after year, decade after decade, coach after coach.

As far as the starting part, so we'll go after players who can start here that wouldn't elsewhere? Not sure I like that.

I just don't see where the sell is..

Didn't stop Bush, Quin or Jones. Nobody gives a crap of any of the Lions past teams. They care about 2014.

 

[tomdalton22]

They don't have to live here in the winter. Most players go elsewhere.

You have no clue what players think about any playing situation. You only have your own opinion.

that's true. The Lions don't play post season football so the players can bolt after week 17!

 

[Mitchrapp]

Didn't stop Bush, Quin or Jones. Nobody gives a crap of any of the Lions past teams. They care about 2014.

I bet there have been players who turned us down for one of those reasons..

 

[LKP]

that's true. The Lions don't play post season football so the players can bolt after week 17!

Well if they are in the playoffs, they won't mind the winter. Super bowl week is usually in a warm climate.

 

[grandy]

It's more than that. They know we don't have a tradition of winning, year after year, decade after decade, coach after coach.

As far as the starting part, so we'll go after players who can start here that wouldn't elsewhere? Not sure I like that.

I just don't see where the sell is..

Like I said, each situation is unique.

Maybe a player is familiar with Caldwell or Austin or Lombardi

Maybe they were college teammates with a current Lions player

Maybe they're looking to start or have little competition at the position they play

I doubt every player looks at the "tradition of winning" and makes a decision based off that. I'm sure some players look at this as a fresh situation and the past doesn't matter, others might write the Lions off because of their history.

Who knows...we aren't in these FAs heads, we don't know what sways their decisions

 

[Mitchrapp]

You might not care or even think it's a problem, lkp, but I certainly do. This is not a sought out place to go.

 

[LKP]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/13/lions-want-delmas-back-but-he-plans-to-test-market/


They just want him at a better cap number. Test the market Delmas.

But I can see us getting 2 nice free agents this offseason.

 

[Mitchrapp]

Like I said, each situation is unique.

Maybe a player is familiar with Caldwell or Austin or Lombardi

Maybe they were college teammates with a current Lions player

Maybe they're looking to start or have little competition at the position they play

I doubt every player looks at the "tradition of winning" and makes a decision based off that. I'm sure some players look at this as a fresh situation and the past doesn't matter, others might write the Lions off because of their history.

Who knows...we aren't in these FAs heads, we don't know what sways their decisions

The reason I mention it is we don't seem too get those great free agent signs. Maybe the wrong situation, not enough money, for a better deal elsewhere but I think they do look at few opportunities in the playoffs and never a SB contender.

We might not be in this heads but I can take an educated guess.

Guess it's just me.

 

[grandy]

Looking at some top FA lists (for positions the Lions could use), don't know if any of these players have had a change in contract status since


Defensive Ends (I'll have to weed out 3-4 DEs later)

1. Greg Hardy
2. Michael Johnson
3. Lamarr Houston
4. Michael Bennett
5. Jared Allen
6. Arthur Jones
7. Everson Griffen
8. Justin Tuck
9. Antonio Smith
10. Tyson Jackson
11. Robert Ayers
12. Corey Wootton
13. Anthony Spencer
14. Willie Young
15. Brett Keisel
16. Jeremy Mincey
17. Will Smith
18. Matt Shaughnessy
19. C.J. Wilson
20. Ricardo Mathews
21. Kenyon Coleman
22. Marcus Benard
23. Jason Hunter
24. Israel Idonije
26. Andre Carter
27. Frostee Rucker
28. Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
30. Jarius Wynn

Cornerbacks

1. Brent Grimes
2. Aqib Talib
3. Alterraun Verner
4. Vontae Davis
5. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie
6. Charles Tillman
7. Sam Shields
8. Walter Thurmond III
9. Tarell Brown
10. Chris Cook
11. Corey Graham
12. Captain Munnerlyn
13. Terrell Thomas
14. DeAngelo Hall
15. Asante Samuel
16. Jabari Greer
17. Trumaine McBride
18. Antoine Cason
19. Drayton Florence
20. Will Blackmon
21. Rashean Mathis
22. Josh Wilson
23. Tracy Porter
24. Richard Marshall
25. Nolan Carroll
26. E.J. Biggers
27. Quentin Jammer
28. Corey Webster
29. Kelvin Hayden
30. Dunta Robinson
31. Mike Jenkins
32. Aaron Berry
33. Chris Owens
34. Sherrick McManis
35. Cassius Vaughn
36. Zackary Bowman
37. Phillip Adams
38. Dominique Franks
39. Brandon Ghee
40. Aaron Ross

Safeties

1. Jairus Byrd
2. T.J. Ward
3. Donte Whitner
4. Antoine Bethea
5. Chris Clemons
6. Malcolm Jenkins
7. Stevie Brown
8. Major Wright
9. Nate Allen
10. Michael Mitchell
11. Charles Woodson
12. Nick Collins
13. Ryan Clark
14. James Ihedigbo
15. Bernard Pollard
16. Usama Young
17. Kendrick Lewis
18. Mike Adams
19. Chris Crocker
20. Yeremiah Bell
21. Quintin Mikell
22. Roman Harper
23. Kerry Rhodes
24. Michael Huff
25. Brandon Meriweather
26. Ryan Mundy
27. Taylor Mays
28. Ed Reed
29. Jim Leonhard
30. Husain Abdullah
31. Darrell Stuckey
32. Sergio Brown
33. Colt Anderson
34. Darian Stewart
35. Craig Steltz
36. Chris Maragos
37. Will Allen
38. Quintin Demps
39. Matt Giordano
40. Reed Doughty

Tight Ends

1. Jimmy Graham
2. Dennis Pitta
3. Jermichael Finley
4. Brandon Pettigrew
5. Garrett Graham
6. Brandon Myers
7. Fred Davis
8. Dustin Keller
9. Scott Chandler
10. Andrew Quarless
11. Ed Dickson
12. Tony Scheffler
13. Anthony McCoy
14. Kellen Winslow
15. Jeff Cumberland
16. Clay Harbor
17. Ben Hartsock
18. Dallas Clark
19. Michael Hoomanawanui
20. David Johnson
21. Dante Rosario
22. Bear Pascoe
23. Alex Smith
24. Chase Coffman
25. Michael Palmer
26. Jim Dray
27. Jeron Mastrud
28. Matthew Mulligan
29. Kellen Davis
30. Jeff King

Wide Receivers

1. Eric Decker
2. Jeremy Maclin
3. Hakeem Nicks
4. Julian Edelman
5. Golden Tate
6. James Jones
7. Anquan Boldin
8. Andre Roberts
9. Emmanuel Sanders
10. Riley Cooper
11. Danario Alexander
12. Jacoby Jones
13. Dexter McCluster
14. Brandon LaFell
15. Kenny Britt
16. Damian Williams
17. Jerricho Cotchery
18. Ted Ginn
19. Jerome Simpson
20. Jacoby Ford
21. Robert Meachem
22. Austin Collie
23. Andre Caldwell
24. Santana Moss
25. Marc Mariani
26. Josh Morgan
27. Mario Manningham
28. Darrius Heyward-Bey
29. Domenik Hixon
30. Devin Hester
31. Deion Branch
32. Joe Webb
33. Lavelle Hawkins
34. Dezmon Briscoe
35. Kevin Ogletree
36. Louis Murphy
37. Seyi Ajirotutu
38. Josh Cribbs
39. Kyle Williams
40. Kevin Walter
41. Tiquan Underwood
42. Brandon Tate
43. Kassim Osgood
44. Plaxico Burress
45. Marlon Moore

Source: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/45947/309/2014-nfl-free-agents

 

[grandy]

The reason I mention it is we don't seem too get those great free agent signs. Maybe the wrong situation, not enough money, for a better deal elsewhere but I think they do look at few opportunities in the playoffs and never a SB contender.

We might not be in this heads but I can take an educated guess.

Guess it's just me.

Well I won't even pretend to know what goes into the decision making process for these free agents, so I'll refrain from guessing.

 

[coel73]

What the hell!!!! Every receiver that was responsible for the shredding of the Pats secondary (during that 18-1 season) in the superbowl is a free agent now? Those jokers hands were like gorilla glue when manning threw passes to them.

Is Hakeem Nicks all of a sudden garbage now? Or did he just give up on the giants? Dudes hands were pretty amazing if only for a stretch of time.

 

[Mitchrapp]

What the hell!!!! Every receiver that was responsible for the shredding of the Pats secondary (during that 18-1 season) in the superbowl is a free agent now? Those jokers hands were like gorilla glue when manning threw passes to them.

Is Hakeem Nicks all of a sudden garbage now? Or did he just give up on the giants? Dudes hands were pretty amazing if only for a stretch of time.

Catchable passes would be my guess.

 

[mhughes0021]

Hmmm...not the same ol lions! Smart business moves cutting nate and delmas. Tough moves...but smart moves. Smart is a move in the right direction from all the dumb moves in the past. Good job xanders!

 

[michiganalex]

http://espn.go.com/blog/detroit-lions/post/_/id/5834/a-tough-ending-for-burleson-in-detroit

they are talking jacoby jones as a possibility with his ties with Caldwell

 

[michiganalex]

Hmmm...not the same ol lions! Smart business moves cutting nate and delmas. Tough moves...but smart moves. Smart is a move in the right direction from all the dumb moves in the past. Good job xanders!

how do you know it was xanders and now mayhew

 

[lgolfer]

how do you know it was xanders and now mayhew

He doesn't, but he likes to mess around with LKP by saying it was Xanders decision. And it might've been influenced by Xanders, who knows? But he'll never give Mayhew any credit as long as Xanders is here. But honestly could care less who gets the credit as long as the Lions start winning more games, both in the playoffs and regular season.

 

[Mitchrapp]

He doesn't, but he likes to mess around with LKP by saying it was Xanders decision. And it might've been influenced by Xanders, who knows? But he'll never give Mayhew any credit as long as Xanders is here. But honestly could care less who gets the credit as long as the Lions start winning more games, both in the playoffs and regular season.

That's all that matters.

 

[mhughes0021]

He doesn't, but he likes to mess around with LKP by saying it was Xanders decision. And it might've been influenced by Xanders, who knows? But he'll never give Mayhew any credit as long as Xanders is here. But honestly could care less who gets the credit as long as the Lions start winning more games, both in the playoffs and regular season.

There weren't many smart decisions before Xanders got here. Xanders comes...we nail our first draft in forever and were off to a great start this offseason. Coincidence?!!! I think not!!!! and ya...I love seeing LKP freak out

 

[lgolfer]

There weren't many smart decisions before Xanders got here. Xanders comes...we nail our first draft in forever and were off to a great start this offseason. Coincidence?!!! I think not!!!! and ya...I love seeing LKP freak out

I do think Xanders played a big part in our successful 2013 draft, I'm just not going automatically giving him credit for every personnel decision we make from here on out. But again, I don't really care who gets the credit as long as we make good decisions regarding personnel and start winning.

 

[tonyballs]

it won't be because they are a winning organization
it won't be because Detroit is a great place to live in the winter

There are probably only a handfull of teams that FA think are worse destinations than Detroit

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