My way too early yardage prediction thread

[LKP]

Talent does not mean better. Talent is perception, execution is reality. Packers execute better.

Lions execute really well especially when healthy. See TDs, yards and 3rd downs. Tate and Ebron can execute better than Durham and Burleson for half a year too.

The Lions will execute better due to their increased talent.

 

[dubbsco]

How do you know Ebron will produce? We are just assuming this. He hasn't stepped foot on an NFL field.

 

[brewer229]

How do you know Ebron will produce? We are just assuming this. He hasn't stepped foot on an NFL field.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lu3VTngm1F0

 

[LKP]

How do you know Ebron will produce? We are just assuming this. He hasn't stepped foot on an NFL field.

Too much talent not to produce. Plus he'll obviously get the opportunities.

Same could be said for Ha-Ha or Fuller/Dennard too. They might suck and cause the Lions to suck with shitty coverage and run support if they were taken.

 

[dubbsco]

Thought Roy Williams was going to be good, he was a beast at Texas. Thought Kevin Jones was going to be good, absolute beast his last season, consistently good at VA Tech. We have 0 idea that he's going to be a productive member of this offense. None. He could set foot on the field and forget how to play. He could be amazing. Don't assume he's going to produce.

 

[LKP]

Thought Roy Williams was going to be good, he was a beast at Texas. Thought Kevin Jones was going to be good, absolute beast his last season, consistently good at VA Tech. We have 0 idea that he's going to be a productive member of this offense. None. He could set foot on the field and forget how to play. He could be amazing. Don't assume he's going to produce.

Roy Williams did produce early. Kevin Jones too then injuries slowed him.

 

[dubbsco]

Saying that a player "has too much talent to not produce" is not a reason why he will be good. I could type up a list that goes from here to the moon with players that had gobs of talent, but didn't make a dent in their respective sport, for whatever reason. The bottom line is that you, me, or any other fan has no clue what Ebron will do until he does it.

 

[mhughes0021]

So GB wins the division because Adams will have better production than Ebron? Dumbest statement to date. Who gives a rats ass if Adams has more production? As long as Ebron produces for this team and becomes a factor, who gives a fuck what Davonte Adams does? We'll let you stress over it week-to-week. You're such a tard ....

Its called value moron. We drafted ebron to play wr. GB drafted Adam's to play wr 1.5 rounds later. If im a betting man rodgers makes adams produce more than stafford/ebron. The fact you dont understand value and production is why you are dumb and keep arguing that a 11 win team in 2 years is good and why a qb that has lost twice as many games as hes won is good.

 

[mhughes0021]

We throw the ball so much due to the situations of the game (down and distance) and the fact Stafford converts 3rd downs so much. First downs converted lead to more attempts. Stafford does his job well. The running game didn't always back him up like you claim. This causes down and distance problems.

And Ebron will produce for this offense and it will make a positive impact. Which is all that matters, especially compared to what Durham brought to the table or half a season of Burleson. Tate and Ebron trump both those players big time. Calvin, Tate and Ebron can produce more than Nelson, Cobb and Adams. We have just as much if not more passing firepower with GB now. RB catches put us over the top. GB is a good team but Detroit can top them. Detroit has more talent than GB overall.

Then you dont understand value either. We picked a te in the top 10.....he better be frikken all pro or it was dumb.

 

[dubbsco]

There's a reason there has been like 4 TEs taken in the top 10 in the last 25 years. It's a position of luxury. And the fact that the Lions just resigned Pettigrew before drafting this guy makes me sick. You don't need 19 TEs. Take the defensive player, regardless of whether or not he was going to be taken a few spots after you. Like I said, watched Dennard play a ton. He shut down his side of the field. Clinton-Dix was awesome in the secondary. Either of those guys would look great in the secondary. But Stafford doesn't have enough weapons because he can't make anyone better, so the GM has to continue to justify it by piling up guys for him. Beyond frustrating.

 

[LKP]

Then you dont understand value either. We picked a te in the top 10.....he better be frikken all pro or it was dumb.

There is value in matchups. There is value in production. And as a rookie 650 yards and 5 TDs works and really all the Lions need from Ebron with Calvin, Tate, Pettigrew, Bush and Bell in the mix plus a slot WR. Any more is huge.

The Lions got what they needed at pick 10 and they got what they needed in Round 2 too.

 

[mhughes0021]

There is value in matchups. There is value in production. And as a rookie 650 yards and 5 TDs works and really all the Lions need from Ebron with Calvin, Tate, Pettigrew, Bush and Bell in the mix plus a slot WR. Any more is huge.

The Lions got what they needed at pick 10 and they got what they needed in Round 2 too.

You could have drafted a 600 yard wr in rd 3. Thats good value. 600 yards from a top 10 pick is shit....

 

[LKP]

You could have drafted a 600 yard wr in rd 3. Thats good value. 600 yards from a top 10 pick is shit....

Rookie 600 yard. Ebron can get 1,000 eventually. Plus the matchup is the big thing. Ebron was better value than Dennard or Fuller or Ha Ha

 

[LKP]

Slay should be better than Dennar or Fuller. Great value in Round 2 2013. Same with Mathis. Cheap vet deal. Great value.

 

[dubbsco]

Slay should be better than Dennard based on what? The fact that Dennard was heads and shoulders better than Slay in college?

 

[LKP]

Slay should be better than Dennard based on what? The fact that Dennard was heads and shoulders better than Slay in college?

Slay is bigger and faster. Slay has a year of experience. Slay fits this scheme incredibly well. Slay played well at the end of 2013. Many reasons.

I'll take Mathis over Dennard and Fuller for 2014.

And put Dennard on Miss State and he gets torched. Overrated CB by far is Dennard. Fuller too. No clue how he rose so much.

 

[dubbsco]

For one, you can't use a year of experience to knock down Dennard. It's not his fault he graduated after Slay, that's not an applicable argument.

And your argument about Miss State is absolutely false. In the three games during the season they played ranked teams (Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU), they gave up 38, 38, and 37 points. Or the bowl game against Northwestern, where they gave up 34. That puts the clamps on that argument about Miss State.

I guess being the best shut down corner in football and winning the Jim Thorpe your senior year means overrated? Weird.

 

[tomdalton22]

Slay should be better than Dennard based on what? The fact that Dennard was heads and shoulders better than Slay in college?

He bases it on the fact that Slay is on the Lions and Dennard is not.

 

[dubbsco]

Yeah you are right. If Dennard was on this team and Slay wasn't, the opposite things would be said.

 

[LKP]

For one, you can't use a year of experience to knock down Dennard. It's not his fault he graduated after Slay, that's not an applicable argument.

And your argument about Miss State is absolutely false. In the three games during the season they played ranked teams (Alabama, Texas A&M, LSU), they gave up 38, 38, and 37 points. Or the bowl game against Northwestern, where they gave up 34. That puts the clamps on that argument about Miss State.

I guess being the best shut down corner in football and winning the Jim Thorpe your senior year means overrated? Weird.

Dennard would be torched and the Big Ten is overrated. Dennard can't hold Slay's jock.

Experience matters big time. Sorry Dennard, rookie CB no thanks.