My way too early yardage prediction thread

[tonyballs]

they don't cause theyre stuck trying to support an average qb who they are paying like the best qb in the league.

God forbid they try and surround their franchise QB with some talent eh? lol

 

[Mitchrapp]

God forbid they try and surround their franchise QB with some talent eh? lol

He might still be relatively young but it's too late to still call him our franchise QB. He's the QB for this team nothing more nothing less..you might gasp at the WR after Calvin but we had enough offensive talent for him to do better. A star WR, Pettigrew, and our RB's are enough to win..especially with a solid OL and an expensive DL.

 

[dubbsco]

Tony, there is plenty of talent on offense. Not to mention the fact that the offensive line gave up the 2nd fewest sacks in the NFL, which goes massively under the radar when we talk about Stafford making players better around him. I understand that Dennard or Clinton Dix would have been a reach, but not a big one. And yes, having three TEs that will all see the field is excessive.

And again, third most passing yards in the league. How much more can you improve that?

 

[jdeb]

A hobby? What a horseshit statement lol. It's a hobby because they didn't draft the player YOU wanted? Get a fn grip, buddy...cmon.

It's not about drafting Ebron. It's about doing things wrong every year. Their approach has not worked. Ebron was not a bad pick necessarily but one to try and get them to the playoffs for a year. It's a hobby for them because they refuse to employ elite executives with football expertise. They continue to be loyal to average football men in the front office. They're content with sellouts, and vehicle commercials that sell Cars and trucks at record numbers.

 

[mhughes0021]

God forbid they try and surround their franchise QB with some talent eh? lol

its every year at the expense of helping making the team better. They have Bush, Calvin, tate, Bell, Pettigrew....that's ontop of picking the likes of best, young, broyles, leshoure DWilliams. Its absolutely ridiculous lol. hmmm...what should I do at 10?....oh gee....lets get a back up TE.

When the offense cant outscore opponents and the defense cant stop anyone this year.....maybe then youll understand the outrage. apparently, you weren't paying attention the last 25 years ....we'll help you pay attention this year.

 

[dubbsco]

What cracks me up is when the defenders cite Darius Slay as the Lions addressing the secondary. Want to hear something crazy? Since 2000, Darius Slay was the ONLY CB/S taken in the first two rounds by the Lions. Other than him, there's been a few scattered 3rd rounders/late round picks for the secondary. But hey, Lions drafted ONE guy in the last 15 years that MAY have a chance to be good, so the Lions are clearly addressing the secondary.

Bill Bentley and Spievey are going to be a couple great ones. Is Spievey even on the team anymore?

 

[dubbsco]

It's not a coincidence that since I've been alive, the Lions' secondary has been abysmal. The team is allergic to finding or drafting good talent.

 

[mhughes0021]

The last time we "addressed" the secondary was Terry Fair and Bryant Westbrook lol. Ever since then its been patchwork with verterans that are no longer as good as they once were (Quin and Mathis) or never has beens (Houston).

 

[mhughes0021]

It's not a coincidence that since I've been alive, the Lions' secondary has been abysmal. The team is allergic to finding or drafting good talent.

It not a coincidence that the lions have had the worst record in the league over the last 13 years. It is also not a coincidence that the lions have had the worst record in the league the last 5 years. Whats the key ingredient!!!!!???? ding ding ding....Mayhew! Mayhew sucked ass at evaluating talent for millen. Its been no different since hes taken over for millen. If he was actually good at his job he wouldn't have the likes of shaq harris still employed.

 

[dubbsco]

So every time someone refers to Richard Sherman and how he was drafted late as some example of how to find a steal, here's some of the better CBs in NFL history (pulled from Bleacher Report)

Ty Law- 1st round
Darrell Green- 1st round
Lem Barney- 2nd round
Charles Woodson- 1st round
Rod Woodson- 1st round
Deion Sanders- 1st round

Enough of trying to sell that it's easy to find CBs late, or it's a waste to take them early. The guys above would say otherwise. Spending 1 pick in the first two rounds in the past 15 years on a CB is an absolute joke. That's why the Lions have been the laughingstock of the NFL.

 

[mhughes0021]

So every time someone refers to Richard Sherman and how he was drafted late as some example of how to find a steal, here's some of the better CBs in NFL history (pulled from Bleacher Report)

Ty Law- 1st round
Darrell Green- 1st round
Lem Barney- 2nd round
Charles Woodson- 1st round
Rod Woodson- 1st round
Deion Sanders- 1st round

Enough of trying to sell that it's easy to find CBs late, or it's a waste to take them early. The guys above would say otherwise.

if you ever need any confirmation that mid-late round cbs suck ass....just look at the lions:

spievey
Bentley
greenwood
green
Aj Davis Don't even remember him...
Ramzee Robinson
Dee Mcann
Stanley Wilson
Keith Smith
Blue Adams
Chris Cash
Todd Franz

you can probably add Nevin Lawson to the scrap heap....what a bunch of garbage that list is lmao....

 

[lgolfer]

What cracks me up is when the defenders cite Darius Slay as the Lions addressing the secondary. Want to hear something crazy? Since 2000, Darius Slay was the ONLY CB/S taken in the first two rounds by the Lions. Other than him, there's been a few scattered 3rd rounders/late round picks for the secondary.

Not saying we've drafted great players for the secondary, but where the heck did you get that stat? Here's a list of the CB/S taken in the 1st two rounds since 2000:

2006: Daniel Bullocks, Safety, Nebraska
2007: Gerald Alexander, Safety, Boise State
2009: Louis Delmas, Safety, Western Michigan

I will admit it's pretty bad though that before Darius Slay, we hadn't taken a CB in the 1st two rounds since Terry Fair in 1998. That's called not addressing the corner position.

 

[Mitchrapp]

if you ever need any confirmation that mid-late round cbs suck ass....just look at the lions:

spievey
Bentley
greenwood
green
Aj Davis Don't even remember him...
Ramzee Robinson
Dee Mcann
Stanley Wilson
Keith Smith
Blue Adams
Chris Cash
Todd Franz

you can probably add Nevin Lawson to the scrap heap....what a bunch of garbage that list is lmao....

Who the fk is Blue Adams? Don't remember Cash or Mcann either.

 

[dubbsco]

My fault, I was looking at the Detroit Lions draft history and I had to look at each year. Missed those guys.

From what I remember, Gerald Alexander was someone who was supposed to be available in the 5th round or later, and the Lions jumped up to take him in the 2nd. I don't mind reaching for a pick, but jumping across an entire day is a bit much.

 

[tonyballs]

He might still be relatively young but it's too late to still call him our franchise QB. He's the QB for this team nothing more nothing less..you might gasp at the WR after Calvin but we had enough offensive talent for him to do better. A star WR, Pettigrew, and our RB's are enough to win..especially with a solid OL and an expensive DL.

Now all of a sudden we had enough to win? lmfao. ok

 

[tonyballs]

its every year at the expense of helping making the team better. They have Bush, Calvin, tate, Bell, Pettigrew....that's ontop of picking the likes of best, young, broyles, leshoure DWilliams. Its absolutely ridiculous lol. hmmm...what should I do at 10?....oh gee....lets get a back up TE.

When the offense cant outscore opponents and the defense cant stop anyone this year.....maybe then youll understand the outrage. apparently, you weren't paying attention the last 25 years ....we'll help you pay attention this year.

Not ridiculous at all. You draft players to make your team better. You're just sour because they didn't go after players you wanted....bottomline. Check your fn ego.

 

[jdeb]

Like it or not, Stafford is the franchise QB and he is gonna be here a while.
For what it's worth, I think he has a big year.

 

[tonyballs]

Tony, there is plenty of talent on offense. Not to mention the fact that the offensive line gave up the 2nd fewest sacks in the NFL, which goes massively under the radar when we talk about Stafford making players better around him. I understand that Dennard or Clinton Dix would have been a reach, but not a big one. And yes, having three TEs that will all see the field is excessive.

And again, third most passing yards in the league. How much more can you improve that?

No, there wasn't enough offense. Players like Durham, Ross, Ogletree and Pettigrew wasn't enough. Where have you been? Not enough clutch players. Hopefully players like Tate, Ihedabego(sp?), Van Noy and Ebron change the culture.

 

[dubbsco]

6th in total yards per game, 3rd in passing, about average with rushing, top half of the league with PPG. Offense is not the area that needs improving. Haven't had a good secondary since I've had baby teeth.

 

[tonyballs]

6th in total yards per game, 3rd in passing, about average with rushing, top half of the league with PPG. Offense is not the area that needs improving. Haven't had a good secondary since I've had baby teeth.

Who gives a shit about yards? Ask the gloom and doomers about yards...they'll tell ya. Playmakers is what this team needed and hopefully we have it. Backups dropping and fumbling the football just doesn't cut it....meaning, less playing time for guys like Durham, Ogletree etc etc ...win win. Dennard was obviously not on their short list or we would have been a Lion, right? He doesn't fit their scheme. Drafting a playmaking OLB helps the secondary to a degree