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[hungry]

I was still hoping for a 1 seed. In reality, it isn't much better than a 2, but it's been a while since Michigan has been a 1.

 

[thewolverines24]

Yes apparently that is the consensus.

The AP and Coaches didn't get the memo.

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[tinselwolverine]

The AP and Coaches didn't get the memo.

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Oh I didn?t notice that.

 

[dubbsco]

I was still hoping for a 1 seed. In reality, it isn't much better than a 2, but it's been a while since Michigan has been a 1.

I think a 1 is still reachable, but they basically have to win out.

At worst, they need to be a high 2. I would love to see Michigan with Virginia, Tennessee, or Gonzaga as a 1. I think Tenn is a total fraud, Virginia is always beatable, and Gonzaga is hit or miss.

If they are a 2 with Duke, it could be lights out.

 

[gobluebigjon]

Wisky has 4 points in almost 6 minutes

 

[gobluebigjon]

Now almost 8 minutes lmao

 

[gobluebigjon]

This game is hard to watch

 

[thewolverines24]

This game is hard to watch

Making basketball hard to watch is Wisconsin's specialty.

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[Spartanmack]

Your right I neglected in my head with a bad cold brain to remember that MSU has to play Michigan too. That is just dumb by me. Don?t know what I was thinking. Purdue probably goes 5-1 or 6-0. Michigan and Maryland the hardest. Msu right behind those two by just a smidge.

Purdue has a cake walkish.

Even Rutgers is playing teams tough . No game is a stone cold lock anymore. Too much tape on each other.

I would agree with all of this except I think uofm's schedule is more than just a smidge tougher than Marylands or ours. md and MSU's are tough but uofm's is brutal - at least it was before the Ward injury.

 

[MSUMatt28]

At least Nevada is behind us in the NET. There's no logical reason for them to be ahead of us in any poll.

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That's the way it goes with the polls. You keep winning against meh competition, and you move up as the high major conference teams beat each other up. And none of it matters when it comes to seeding. Nevada and Houston will likely be seeded a couple of lines below where their current rankings dictate.

Heck we're behind Nevada right now we can probably lose a couple more and still be seeded higher than them with all the Q1 victories we have (provided Ward's return becomes a certainty and that is known come Selection Sunday).

Right now I think the 1's are just about locked in with Duke, Virginia, Gonzaga, and Tennessee, unless Kentucky beats them again, in which case Kentucky is in good shape for a 1. Can't really argue with any of those teams.

 

[MSUMatt28]

I think a 1 is still reachable, but they basically have to win out.

At worst, they need to be a high 2. I would love to see Michigan with Virginia, Tennessee, or Gonzaga as a 1. I think Tenn is a total fraud, Virginia is always beatable, and Gonzaga is hit or miss.

If they are a 2 with Duke, it could be lights out.

I think Virginia is pretty legit this year and I have this feeling that sooner or later they are going to break through (similar to how Villanova finally did a few years back). Against any team not named Duke they've been darn near flawless. Strangely scoring against Duke wasn't an issue, but getting stops, especially down the stretch, was.

I think every team would like to avoid being in a bracket with Duke (though I would love to see them knocked off. Tired of the fever pitch that's been reached with all the slobbering over them. Recruiting the #1, #2, #3 players in the country to go win it all doesn't interest me very much).


I don't think Tenneessee is a fraud, but they have managed to avoid the toughest SEC teams on their schedule thus far. But they've got an inside game, they've got shooters, and have good point guard play and they're physical and experienced. Obviously that guarantees nothing in the tournament, but their roster has quite a few parts.

 

[thewolverines24]

That's the way it goes with the polls. You keep winning against meh competition, and you move up as the high major conference teams beat each other up. And none of it matters when it comes to seeding. Nevada and Houston will likely be seeded a couple of lines below where their current rankings dictate.

Heck we're behind Nevada right now we can probably lose a couple more and still be seeded higher than them with all the Q1 victories we have (provided Ward's return becomes a certainty and that is known come Selection Sunday).

Right now I think the 1's are just about locked in with Duke, Virginia, Gonzaga, and Tennessee, unless Kentucky beats them again, in which case Kentucky is in good shape for a 1. Can't really argue with any of those teams.

I'd argue against Gonzaga. They are 1-2 in real basketball games this year. I know they're a good team and they look great against the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Pacific Northwest, but you shouldn't even be eligible for a 1 seed with their schedule. Washington is their 2nd best win this year, which is like being the best 450 lb high jumper. They haven't even played a mediocre team since UNC kicked their ass and that was in mid-December.

 

[TheVictors]

I'd argue against Gonzaga. They are 1-2 in real basketball games this year. I know they're a good team and they look great against the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Pacific Northwest, but you shouldn't even be eligible for a 1 seed with their schedule. Washington is their 2nd best win this year, which is like being the best 450 lb high jumper. They haven't even played a mediocre team since UNC kicked their ass and that was in mid-December.

agreed. I think they benefit by being the darling "Gonzaga" upstart of years gone by. They play nobody and benefit by the program reputation as an established cinderella.

 

[thewolverines24]

agreed. I think the benefit by being the darling "Gonzaga" upstart of years gone by. They play nobody and benefit by the program reputation as an established cinderella.

We'd still be undefeated if we played their conference schedule. We made it through non-con unscathed and every team in their conference is way worse than the lowest of the Big 10.

Replace Gonzaga with Penn State or Rutgers and they'd win the West Coast Conference.

 

[hungry]

Some games of interest today (2/19)

Purdue plays at IU 7pm on ESPN2
Maryland plays at Iowa at 8:05pm on BTN
UK plays at Mizzou 9pm ESPN

Nebraska plays at Penn St at 7pm. Watch the Nittany Lions lose to Nebraska or some crap.

 

[MSUMatt28]

I'd argue against Gonzaga. They are 1-2 in real basketball games this year. I know they're a good team and they look great against the Boys & Girls Clubs of the Pacific Northwest, but you shouldn't even be eligible for a 1 seed with their schedule. Washington is their 2nd best win this year, which is like being the best 450 lb high jumper. They haven't even played a mediocre team since UNC kicked their ass and that was in mid-December.

Gonzaga can't do anything about their conference schedule, and that is no different than any other year (other than St. Mary's is not as strong of a challenger to them as they've been in other recent years). And 2 years ago they earned a 1 and made it all the way to the final. I figured we were past the point by now of debating whether Gonzaga is legit. They beat Duke on a neutral floor, which should count as 5 wins this year, and lost on a last second 3 to the team Duke just replaced as #1. Kind of sounds like SEC football logic (Well the Duke game was a fluke and Tennessee is overrated and they'd never be able to get through the mighty Big Ten and have to deal with the likes of Rutgers and Penn State and....).

 

[thewolverines24]

Gonzaga can't do anything about their conference schedule, and that is no different than any other year (other than St. Mary's is not as strong of a challenger to them as they've been in other recent years). And 2 years ago they earned a 1 and made it all the way to the final. I figured we were past the point by now of debating whether Gonzaga is legit. They beat Duke on a neutral floor, which should count as 5 wins this year, and lost on a last second 3 to the team Duke just replaced as #1. Kind of sounds like SEC football logic (Well the Duke game was a fluke and Tennessee is overrated and they'd never be able to get through the mighty Big Ten and have to deal with the likes of Rutgers and Penn State and....).

They're a legit team, but they don't deserve a 1 seed unless they have multiple good non-conference wins. They played 3 quality opponents all season. Lost to two of them. The Duke win is a great win, but it's one win. One great win should not get you a 1 seed.

I know their conference is not their fault, but they shouldn't be rewarded for it either. They should be a 2-seed max. You can talk about the Tennessee loss being last second, but Gonzaga also had to hit a last second shot to beat Washington.

 

[UMRules06]

Well Purdue and Maryland both sneak away with wins. Hope Michigan shows up with some energy @Minnesota.

 

[TheVictors]

Gonzaga can't do anything about their conference schedule, and that is no different than any other year (other than St. Mary's is not as strong of a challenger to them as they've been in other recent years). And 2 years ago they earned a 1 and made it all the way to the final. I figured we were past the point by now of debating whether Gonzaga is legit. They beat Duke on a neutral floor, which should count as 5 wins this year, and lost on a last second 3 to the team Duke just replaced as #1. Kind of sounds like SEC football logic (Well the Duke game was a fluke and Tennessee is overrated and they'd never be able to get through the mighty Big Ten and have to deal with the likes of Rutgers and Penn State and....).

I understand what you're saying but it would be like having Central Florida ranked in the Top 4 in football because of their record without the context.

 

[gotime909]

I understand what you're saying but it would be like having Central Florida ranked in the Top 4 in football because of their record without the context.

Well if Central Florida beat Alabama or Clemson I’m sure they would be